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Thoughts on Treloar? Scored well in 3/4 of the finals, cheaper than Dunkley & Duncan and capable of scoring just as well. Currently at F2 for me.
 
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Butters @wogitalia ?

Locked in at F2 for me, training with mids, expectation of more midfield time & we saw how he scored early in the season last year before injury hit.
Definitely on the radar, torched me last year which always makes it hard. Durability is definitely a worry after last season but have to hope that a big preseason can help prevent that to an extent.

There are an awful lot of options this year, for me it will probably come down to how many of the extreme value picks actually look workable come round 1.

Thoughts on Treloar? Scored well in 3/4 of the finals, cheaper than Dunkley & Duncan and capable of scoring just as well. Currently at F2 for me.
Durability also his concern, has either missed games or been playing hurt an awful lot over the last few years but agree he's got excellent upside scoring, last year his first under 100 since his 2nd season and heavily injury affected.

Will come down to his preseason, was very limited last year and it cost him dearly, if he's flying this year and looking to get good midfield minutes then he screams into contention.

Hard thing with him is his ball usage is so poor that he has to get a lot of it so not a guy that scores well when even slightly out of position, his finals though were really good to his credit.

Definitely on the long, long watch list :)
 
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Can any Hawks supporters shed light on what the backline will look like next year? I'm guessing something like:

B: Sicily Hartigan Hardwick
HB: Jiath Frost Impey
Wing: Day
INT: Scrimshaw
Emerg: Bramble

Tricky to fit everyone in (although at least one will probably be injured most weeks). Worried Sicily might be flung forward, but seems unlikely that they would move their best defender out of defence.
 
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Thoughts on tarryn Thomas. Looked really good in the back end of the year, had some really good scores. Break out contender?
Absolutely in the mix, genuinely looks like the forwards could be very varied this year, for the first time in a while reckon the position is loaded with options, structures will be very interesting as rookies always dictate it but how many of the value players people go for is going to be a genuine question, realistically there's only a very small handful of the forwards that aren't underpriced.
 
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Can any Hawks supporters shed light on what the backline will look like next year? I'm guessing something like:

B: Sicily Hartigan Hardwick
HB: Jiath Frost Impey
Wing: Day
INT: Scrimshaw
Emerg: Bramble

Tricky to fit everyone in (although at least one will probably be injured most weeks). Worried Sicily might be flung forward, but seems unlikely that they would move their best defender out of defence.
They do have a few options up forward now. Lewis, Koschi, Gunston and the resting ruck McEvoy/Reeves/Lynch. If Gunston can't stay on the park you would think he would slot in.
 
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Can any Hawks supporters shed light on what the backline will look like next year? I'm guessing something like:

B: Sicily Hartigan Hardwick
HB: Jiath Frost Impey
Wing: Day
INT: Scrimshaw
Emerg: Bramble

Tricky to fit everyone in (although at least one will probably be injured most weeks). Worried Sicily might be flung forward, but seems unlikely that they would move their best defender out of defence.
There are so many options down back...

Would think with another year in him that they'd be looking for DGB to hold down a post, genuinely reckon Sicily forward is likely at least at times. Also expect that one of Jiath, Impey or Bramble will also be on a wing. Hardwick, Frost and Hartigan to me are the only 3 who really seem "locked" into the back 6 and then it's who they want to fill it out with. Bramble was super impressive to close out last year, ball use stood out as the others are a bit inconsistent in that area.

Textbook too many cooks situation, reckon you're going to end up with 4 or 5 guys who score in the 80-95 range and no genuine premium out of it.
 
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Absolutely in the mix, genuinely looks like the forwards could be very varied this year, for the first time in a while reckon the position is loaded with options, structures will be very interesting as rookies always dictate it but how many of the value players people go for is going to be a genuine question, realistically there's only a very small handful of the forwards that aren't underpriced.
Great feed back. One more, what’s your thoughts on will day?
 
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Despite the fact I have had no success whatsoever I am sticking to my my-pricer-is-best theory. There seem to be even more value picks than ever in 2022 so this might be my year.

Defenders
Whitfield, Lukosius, Ash, H. Clark, Blakey, Milera & 2 rookies
Basically looking for improvement & role change opportunities from younger brigade
Mids
Petracca, Neale, Cripps, Shiel, Lipinski, Rowell, Berry, Caldwell & 3 rookies
Value mostly coming from players with injury riddled 2021. Obviously will be looking for pre-season to confirm that they are fully fit again.
Forwards
Heeney, Butters, Anderson, L. Jackson, Rioli, Coniglio & 2 rookies
Looking for improved scoring from Jackson & Rioli, whilst I reckon the others are under-priced if they are at the top of their game in 2022.
Rucks
Big O, Draper & Preuss
Just think the Gawn-Grundy era cant last for much longer.
 
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Despite the fact I have had no success whatsoever I am sticking to my my-pricer-is-best theory. There seem to be even more value picks than ever in 2022 so this might be my year.

Defenders
Whitfield, Lukosius, Ash, H. Clark, Blakey, Milera & 2 rookies
Basically looking for improvement & role change opportunities from younger brigade
Mids
Petracca, Neale, Cripps, Shiel, Lipinski, Rowell, Berry, Caldwell & 3 rookies
Value mostly coming from players with injury riddled 2021. Obviously will be looking for pre-season to confirm that they are fully fit again.
Forwards
Heeney, Butters, Anderson, L. Jackson, Rioli, Coniglio & 2 rookies
Looking for improved scoring from Jackson & Rioli, whilst I reckon the others are under-priced if they are at the top of their game in 2022.
Rucks
Big O, Draper & Preuss
Just think the Gawn-Grundy era cant last for much longer.
I like some of these players (but not all). The problem with this approach is unless you nail almost every one of your picks, then it will be almost impossible to fix. May I suggest you try to slot 2-3 of the Uber premium Mids into your team along with the key “must have” rookies. Then work in your other favourite value picks after that. This should ensure you get some top end fire power as well as filter out the most marginal of your value picks, leaving you with the ones most likely (hopefully) to succeed..... It’s just a thought, do with it as you please 🤔
 
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Despite the fact I have had no success whatsoever I am sticking to my my-pricer-is-best theory. There seem to be even more value picks than ever in 2022 so this might be my year.

Defenders
Whitfield, Lukosius, Ash, H. Clark, Blakey, Milera & 2 rookies
Basically looking for improvement & role change opportunities from younger brigade
Mids
Petracca, Neale, Cripps, Shiel, Lipinski, Rowell, Berry, Caldwell & 3 rookies
Value mostly coming from players with injury riddled 2021. Obviously will be looking for pre-season to confirm that they are fully fit again.
Forwards
Heeney, Butters, Anderson, L. Jackson, Rioli, Coniglio & 2 rookies
Looking for improved scoring from Jackson & Rioli, whilst I reckon the others are under-priced if they are at the top of their game in 2022.
Rucks
Big O, Draper & Preuss
Just think the Gawn-Grundy era cant last for much longer.
Loving the Clark selection was going alright last year until injury. Blakey if he is fit there is a spot for him in the Midfield.
Cripps Shiel Lipinski very bold. You watch Cripps stock soar in preseason.
Anderson and Rioli have to be watched preseason. As already mentioned Rioli could have HB role for the Tigers.
Like the Draper selection i am also looking for cheeper ruck so Preuss can warm the bench.

And Rowel for me is a LOCK.
I am sure you have constable on the watch list.?
 
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Loving the Clark selection was going alright last year until injury. Blakey if he is fit there is a spot for him in the Midfield.
Cripps Shiel Lipinski very bold. You watch Cripps stock soar in preseason.
Anderson and Rioli have to be watched preseason. As already mentioned Rioli could have HB role for the Tigers.
Like the Draper selection i am also looking for cheeper ruck so Preuss can warm the bench.

And Rowel for me is a LOCK.
I am sure you have constable on the watch list.?
If constable get a spot in the engine room he will be the best rookie price player of the year. Can easily make 250k if given the chance.
 
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Great feed back. One more, what’s your thoughts on will day?
I really rate him as a player, role will depend a lot on whether he's fantasy relevant but Hawks have so many rebounding back types that it's hard to see any of them being able to push 100+ which is the big concern. HIs durability has also been an ongoing problem which has him on the "unlikely" list for me but I'm still watching as he could blow us all away in preseason and demand selection. The skillset is there.

And Matt Rowell?
He's an unknown. Durability is a big problem and I'm not sure he's cheap enough for the unknown that goes with him.

Simple fact is he's played 3 great games and then got 14 average or worse games. If he plays well he will probably get defensive attention, he's shown he can win the ball but he's also shown an inability to score doing anything but that and it was clear last year they had issues with his defensive work and wanted that to be his focus which draws back to the question of what his role will be. There's also the aspect that he looked completely bereft of confidence last year and how long will it take to get that back?

The biggest positive is Greenwood gone opens a big door and role for him, those 3 games were legitimately great and did show his ceiling, he was the first pick for a reason, but there are definitely concerns.

For mine he's an absolute must watch, if he dominates the preseason then I think he's just about a lock at that point as he's well known enough to be in every Tom, **** and Harry's team, which means the exposure to him if he does well is enormous, and he's cheap enough to not need to hit premium numbers, though it's borderline on that front.
 

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For mine he's an absolute must watch, if he dominates the preseason then I think he's just about a lock at that point as he's well known enough to be in every Tom, **** and Harry's team, which means the exposure to him if he does well is enormous, and he's cheap enough to not need to hit premium numbers, though it's borderline on that front.
He is 50/50 for me atm, but this last paragraph hits the nail on the head.

If he has a great presseason and everyone grabs him you almost have to pick him to eliminate the risk of being left behind the pack.

If his preseaon is average then I will jump off. There will still be a reasonable percentage of people that pick him so will naturally pray he doesn't dominate!
 

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I really rate him as a player, role will depend a lot on whether he's fantasy relevant but Hawks have so many rebounding back types that it's hard to see any of them being able to push 100+ which is the big concern. HIs durability has also been an ongoing problem which has him on the "unlikely" list for me but I'm still watching as he could blow us all away in preseason and demand selection. The skillset is there.



He's an unknown. Durability is a big problem and I'm not sure he's cheap enough for the unknown that goes with him.

Simple fact is he's played 3 great games and then got 14 average or worse games. If he plays well he will probably get defensive attention, he's shown he can win the ball but he's also shown an inability to score doing anything but that and it was clear last year they had issues with his defensive work and wanted that to be his focus which draws back to the question of what his role will be. There's also the aspect that he looked completely bereft of confidence last year and how long will it take to get that back?

The biggest positive is Greenwood gone opens a big door and role for him, those 3 games were legitimately great and did show his ceiling, he was the first pick for a reason, but there are definitely concerns.

For mine he's an absolute must watch, if he dominates the preseason then I think he's just about a lock at that point as he's well known enough to be in every Tom, **** and Harry's team, which means the exposure to him if he does well is enormous, and he's cheap enough to not need to hit premium numbers, though it's borderline on that front.
Rowell won’t need to show much for me I think! At his price, will only need to get to a 95-100 to be a good pick.
 
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