Position 2022: Midfield Discussion
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I remember getting excited days before for his debut , got his shoulder absolutely smashed in the opening 10 minutes.
They still talk about Fogarty being the next Plugger ......why compare , just let them debut and see if they belong at this level and forge their own career.
Yet the dickhead commentators will all label these kids as superstars before they have played half a dozen games at this level.
And many on here will come out with "he's a gun"
Just let them play.
Rusling was going to better then Coventry/Lee/Todd/McKenna
They still talk about Fogarty being the next Plugger ......why compare , just let them debut and see if they belong at this level and forge their own career.
Yet the dickhead commentators will all label these kids as superstars before they have played half a dozen games at this level.
And many on here will come out with "he's a gun"
Just let them play.
Rusling was going to better then Coventry/Lee/Todd/McKenna
I hope you are on their match committee then , haven't seen him in any of their Best 22 Round 1 teams yet 😭
Think a lot are factoring in Maginness & Hollands @ F5 & F6 , might not even get a cheap playing F7 or F8 yet.[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't worry about that too much, most of those best 22s for the interstate sides are written by guys who haven't watched more than a game or two for the sides.
Berry has significantly better scoring potential and job security. His durability does undermine both those though. Berry has legitimate 110+ potential if his body holds up and he gets a genuine crack at it. Seriously underrated player. Again though, his body has been shocking to him so far and really he's on that list of guys you can't trust at this point. He's cheap enough to take the punt though but I probably wouldn't be structuring to get him, if you've got the cash to get him, great, if not, you can probably get similar cash generation. I don't expect him to blow things apart this year after a couple of major injuries, not at the moment at least!
Caldwell a lot less proven, no idea with him but he's got some real SC assets. Role needs to be right though.
Don't think they have to worry about that. Even assuming that Daicos and SP are replacing Maynard and Crisp you'd still have Moore and Howe who are elite kicks, Quaynor who is a good run and carry and solid kick and then probably be picking from the likes of Ruscoe and Bianco who are also excellent kicks.
Basically you've got Roughy who's not a great kick and he's smart enough to know that and get it to the guys who are. This is of course until 3/4 of that list is out injured again
Caldwell a lot less proven, no idea with him but he's got some real SC assets. Role needs to be right though.
Don't think they have to worry about that. Even assuming that Daicos and SP are replacing Maynard and Crisp you'd still have Moore and Howe who are elite kicks, Quaynor who is a good run and carry and solid kick and then probably be picking from the likes of Ruscoe and Bianco who are also excellent kicks.
Basically you've got Roughy who's not a great kick and he's smart enough to know that and get it to the guys who are. This is of course until 3/4 of that list is out injured again
I guess the modern game is all about rotating 12-15 through the mids these days in any case , definitely don't believe what coaches tell the media in any case but first rotation is supposedly Tay Tay , JDG & Lipinski.
Pendlebury & Sidebottom are supposedly having a lesser role , I guess until the pressure mounts and we start requiring performance over development and they both get thrown back in their.
Crisp , Elliott & Maynard will get a go plus any number of the kids.
I guess it all changes from week to week in though on circumstances/situation.
Pendlebury & Sidebottom are supposedly having a lesser role , I guess until the pressure mounts and we start requiring performance over development and they both get thrown back in their.
Crisp , Elliott & Maynard will get a go plus any number of the kids.
I guess it all changes from week to week in though on circumstances/situation.
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Berry has significantly better scoring potential and job security. His durability does undermine both those though. Berry has legitimate 110+ potential if his body holds up and he gets a genuine crack at it. Seriously underrated player. Again though, his body has been shocking to him so far and really he's on that list of guys you can't trust at this point. He's cheap enough to take the punt though but I probably wouldn't be structuring to get him, if you've got the cash to get him, great, if not, you can probably get similar cash generation. I don't expect him to blow things apart this year after a couple of major injuries, not at the moment at least!
Caldwell a lot less proven, no idea with him but he's got some real SC assets. Role needs to be right though.
Don't think they have to worry about that. Even assuming that Daicos and SP are replacing Maynard and Crisp you'd still have Moore and Howe who are elite kicks, Quaynor who is a good run and carry and solid kick and then probably be picking from the likes of Ruscoe and Bianco who are also excellent kicks.
Basically you've got Roughy who's not a great kick and he's smart enough to know that and get it to the guys who are. This is of course until 3/4 of that list is out injured again
Caldwell a lot less proven, no idea with him but he's got some real SC assets. Role needs to be right though.
Don't think they have to worry about that. Even assuming that Daicos and SP are replacing Maynard and Crisp you'd still have Moore and Howe who are elite kicks, Quaynor who is a good run and carry and solid kick and then probably be picking from the likes of Ruscoe and Bianco who are also excellent kicks.
Basically you've got Roughy who's not a great kick and he's smart enough to know that and get it to the guys who are. This is of course until 3/4 of that list is out injured again
The majority can't even execute a 30 metre kick correctly under no pressure.
I was pretty settled on having Neale at M4 and just rookies after him. But it looks like there are so many good (expensive mid rookies) this season. Its looking like I can't fit them all in unless I dump another mid premo. So thinking of just running 3 mid premos now. I've never done it before and the last couple of seasons of struggled trying to bring in the likes of Oliver, Steele & Touk, I really don't want to end up in that position again. But those extra trades could make it viable.
I've just done the same thing to my team. Only 3 mid-premos left and I feel bare and exposed
But if all (and the only?) decent playing rookies are midfielders then you kind of have to pick them right?
If the five best on-field rookies come from JHF, Daicos, Ward, Hobbs, Baby Macrae, Constable, Stephens etc. and people are fudging D5/6 and F5/6 with dodgy picks instead then I think it opens up a big way to get ahead.
But boy it feels a bit ballsy.
But if all (and the only?) decent playing rookies are midfielders then you kind of have to pick them right?
If the five best on-field rookies come from JHF, Daicos, Ward, Hobbs, Baby Macrae, Constable, Stephens etc. and people are fudging D5/6 and F5/6 with dodgy picks instead then I think it opens up a big way to get ahead.
But boy it feels a bit ballsy.
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I've just done the same thing to my team. Only 3 mid-premos left and I feel bare and exposed
But if all (and the only?) decent playing rookies are midfielders then you kind of have to pick them right?
If the five best on-field rookies come from JHF, Daicos, Ward, Hobbs, Baby Macrae, Constable, Stephens etc. and people are fudging D5/6 and F5/6 with dodgy picks instead then I think it opens up a big way to get ahead.
But boy it feels a bit ballsy.
But if all (and the only?) decent playing rookies are midfielders then you kind of have to pick them right?
If the five best on-field rookies come from JHF, Daicos, Ward, Hobbs, Baby Macrae, Constable, Stephens etc. and people are fudging D5/6 and F5/6 with dodgy picks instead then I think it opens up a big way to get ahead.
But boy it feels a bit ballsy.
I've just done the same thing to my team. Only 3 mid-premos left and I feel bare and exposed
But if all (and the only?) decent playing rookies are midfielders then you kind of have to pick them right?
If the five best on-field rookies come from JHF, Daicos, Ward, Hobbs, Baby Macrae, Constable, Stephens etc. and people are fudging D5/6 and F5/6 with dodgy picks instead then I think it opens up a big way to get ahead.
But boy it feels a bit ballsy.
But if all (and the only?) decent playing rookies are midfielders then you kind of have to pick them right?
If the five best on-field rookies come from JHF, Daicos, Ward, Hobbs, Baby Macrae, Constable, Stephens etc. and people are fudging D5/6 and F5/6 with dodgy picks instead then I think it opens up a big way to get ahead.
But boy it feels a bit ballsy.
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Berry has significantly better scoring potential and job security. His durability does undermine both those though. Berry has legitimate 110+ potential if his body holds up and he gets a genuine crack at it. Seriously underrated player. Again though, his body has been shocking to him so far and really he's on that list of guys you can't trust at this point. He's cheap enough to take the punt though but I probably wouldn't be structuring to get him, if you've got the cash to get him, great, if not, you can probably get similar cash generation. I don't expect him to blow things apart this year after a couple of major injuries, not at the moment at least!
Caldwell a lot less proven, no idea with him but he's got some real SC assets. Role needs to be right though.
Don't think they have to worry about that. Even assuming that Daicos and SP are replacing Maynard and Crisp you'd still have Moore and Howe who are elite kicks, Quaynor who is a good run and carry and solid kick and then probably be picking from the likes of Ruscoe and Bianco who are also excellent kicks.
Basically you've got Roughy who's not a great kick and he's smart enough to know that and get it to the guys who are. This is of course until 3/4 of that list is out injured again
Caldwell a lot less proven, no idea with him but he's got some real SC assets. Role needs to be right though.
Don't think they have to worry about that. Even assuming that Daicos and SP are replacing Maynard and Crisp you'd still have Moore and Howe who are elite kicks, Quaynor who is a good run and carry and solid kick and then probably be picking from the likes of Ruscoe and Bianco who are also excellent kicks.
Basically you've got Roughy who's not a great kick and he's smart enough to know that and get it to the guys who are. This is of course until 3/4 of that list is out injured again
Question is would you prefer Rayner + Berry or Heeney and a mid 200k rookie (not JHF/Daicos as they are first pick) - maybe Ward/Stephens/Eramus and 20-40k cash.
My preference is Heeney and a rook.
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I think we will need to put some 150k rookies on the bench. Not sure there is cheap ones around and if there are, I had them last year and traded them out early. 5 onfield and 3 on bench is not the best cover, normally prefer 1:1 mix.
Given the rookies I have so far, baby macrae not there, as it would take me to 3 premium mids. If the rookies are completely missing elsewhere then yeah, 3 mids it will be. Need 7 in Def/Fwd - Have 4 rooks in the back and 3 in fwd line and if needed, a Heeney can become a Sicily if it needs to be 4 in def and 3 fwds.
I think we will need to put some 150k rookies on the bench. Not sure there is cheap ones around and if there are, I had them last year and traded them out early. 5 onfield and 3 on bench is not the best cover, normally prefer 1:1 mix.
Given the rookies I have so far, baby macrae not there, as it would take me to 3 premium mids. If the rookies are completely missing elsewhere then yeah, 3 mids it will be. Need 7 in Def/Fwd - Have 4 rooks in the back and 3 in fwd line and if needed, a Heeney can become a Sicily if it needs to be 4 in def and 3 fwds.