Position 2022: Ruck Discussion

[wogitalia]

Genuinely still considering NicNat strongly at this point. Needs to show up in great shape for the preseason games but the way he finished last year was outstanding and the Eagles really need him to lead them and can't really afford to keep playing WAFL standard players to try and cover for him.

Averaged 120+ over the last 16 games of the season, scaling up basically each month of that 16 to a 127 average over the last month when he genuinely seemed to find the confidence that he is pretty good.

Still has limitations in that he doesn't do much outside stoppages but when you're that good at them it hardly matters!

I don't know how it's even possible that NicNat feels like the safest of the ruck picks right now

How does the ruck position always manage to twist us like this!

 

[Vicwood]

Genuinely still considering NicNat strongly at this point. Needs to show up in great shape for the preseason games but the way he finished last year was outstanding and the Eagles really need him to lead them and can't really afford to keep playing WAFL standard players to try and cover for him.

Averaged 120+ over the last 16 games of the season, scaling up basically each month of that 16 to a 127 average over the last month when he genuinely seemed to find the confidence that he is pretty good.

Still has limitations in that he doesn't do much outside stoppages but when you're that good at them it hardly matters!

I don't know how it's even possible that NicNat feels like the safest of the ruck picks right now

How does the ruck position always manage to twist us like this!

RK line is the only line I have not ajusted.

Grundy / Nic Nat / Hayes. Difficult to separate the first 4. Nic Nat gives me a POD.

 

[Diabolical]

Genuinely still considering NicNat strongly at this point. Needs to show up in great shape for the preseason games but the way he finished last year was outstanding and the Eagles really need him to lead them and can't really afford to keep playing WAFL standard players to try and cover for him.

Averaged 120+ over the last 16 games of the season, scaling up basically each month of that 16 to a 127 average over the last month when he genuinely seemed to find the confidence that he is pretty good.

Still has limitations in that he doesn't do much outside stoppages but when you're that good at them it hardly matters!

I don't know how it's even possible that NicNat feels like the safest of the ruck picks right now

How does the ruck position always manage to twist us like this!

Not having a bye in Round 14 adds to his appeal for me too.

 

[Shaunpro1]

Genuinely still considering NicNat strongly at this point. Needs to show up in great shape for the preseason games but the way he finished last year was outstanding and the Eagles really need him to lead them and can't really afford to keep playing WAFL standard players to try and cover for him.

Averaged 120+ over the last 16 games of the season, scaling up basically each month of that 16 to a 127 average over the last month when he genuinely seemed to find the confidence that he is pretty good.

Still has limitations in that he doesn't do much outside stoppages but when you're that good at them it hardly matters!

I don't know how it's even possible that NicNat feels like the safest of the ruck picks right now

How does the ruck position always manage to twist us like this!

Missed a few weeks of pre season and is still managed minutes in match sim, not sure hes safe either.

 

[Shaunpro1]

Reckon Strnadica will play some senior footy if the Eagles pick him up had a huge WAFL season, be interested how that affects Nic Nat's output.

 

[Herbie66]

Nah Herbie don't talk yourself into it

Pick your favourite $600k ruck for R1 then if you must, mess around from there.

I've just drafted a side that I actually don't mind the look of if Preuss gets up...
Preuss R2, Comben R3, Jackson F5 for 'insurance' (cos I'm not going this route without it).
Gives Whitfield D5 and Cogs as M4 behind 3 guns with all the rookies following. Big scoring potential and some solid flexibility

Surely have to have a look though 😀

Nah D , F & M change every day , Darcy & Big O locked away.

 

[Shaunpro1]

Surely have to have a look though 😀

Nah D , F & M change every day , Darcy & Big O locked away.

Looks like Fort is playing with significant ruck time, hard to trust OMac

 

[Herbie66]

Looks like Fort is playing with significant ruck time, hard to trust OMac

Would imagine this time of year most clubs would be getting more time into their second rucks.

Can't take a lot out of match sim and internal practice games in my opinion.

Long long way to Round 1.

 

[dlanod]

Looks like Fort is playing with significant ruck time, hard to trust OMac

Fort is having significant ruck time because they're playing match sims. Not much point having Oscar against Lane. Can't draw any conclusions one way or the other yet.

 

[Herbie66]

I think the XvY was something like:

Darcy, Ward (Hawks), Kid Coleman
vs
Whitfield, Preuss, Jackson

Would go option 1 if Preuss was no good and Ward looked like a must but to be honest, option 2 looks like a better side.

Darcy ✓ Ward is getting talked up (yet to see any rookie not getting talked up in February though) , been keen on Kiddy since last season ✓

Whitfield ✓ (love how Cameron coaches his team with zero focus on SC scores 😉) , can Preuss string 6-8 games together , if so it is no different getting him to a premium ruck than it is getting JHF & Daicos to a premium mid , if he stays fit and plays he probably averages considerably more than both of them)

Can Jackson get 95+ which would probably is at the low point for a F6 , if he is covering the ruck line who is your F7 ? (do we even have a playing F7 & F8 yet ? )

 

[The Saltshaker]

Was going to post, anyone thinking Dees might utilise their 2021 ruck strategy whereby Gawn played majority till rnd 7 avg 149pts, that saw them 7w 0l then reduced his minutes/increased Jackson

...then saw pic of Darcy thought frrk me sideways Lock!🤣👍

 

[Juzzo]

Was going to post, anyone thinking Dees might utilise their 2021 ruck strategy whereby Gawn played majority till rnd 7 avg 149pts, that saw them 7w 0l then reduced his minutes/increased Jackson

...then saw pic of Darcy thought frrk me sideways Lock!🤣👍

What pic?

 

[BIGB0Y]

If Preuss and Hayes both picked round 1 - do we go them?

Is Bailey Williams worth a look at? Is he west coast second ruck and might be a good cover oldie preuss if his your R2… thoughts

 

[The Saltshaker]

Just adding to this, photo from Freo training confirms Darcy looks in terrific nick, bandage on knee precautionary I believe:-
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[Shaunpro1]

Darcy will probably have that knee strapped for the vast majority of his career I wouldnt be too worried about that, looks significantly slimmer which is a good sign less weight hes carrying around the better for mine

 

[Shaunpro1]

Was going to post, anyone thinking Dees might utilise their 2021 ruck strategy whereby Gawn played majority till rnd 7 avg 149pts, that saw them 7w 0l then reduced his minutes/increased Jackson

...then saw pic of Darcy thought frrk me sideways Lock!🤣👍

I'd argue they could get to 7-0 just by increasing the use of Jackson, he did completely swing a Grand Final after all.

 

[GrainFedBeef]

Is Bailey Williams worth a look at? Is he west coast second ruck and might be a good cover oldie preuss if his your R2… thoughts

As a 3rd tall and ruck back up, he may only make $50-100k. Think the few games he played his media return was 50 points form 80mins. Maybe he sees his time go to 100mins.

He has been talked about in this role so expect his JS should be ok if they don't have a significant alternative.

I personally would use Comben who I think will play fwd at North or Hayes if he is selected for Port.

 

[Shaunpro1]

Is Bailey Williams worth a look at? Is he west coast second ruck and might be a good cover oldie preuss if his your R2… thoughts

Reckon Strnadica will push for second Ruck once that signing is confirmed, isn't the worst forward in the world either.

 

[The Saltshaker]

I'd argue they could get to 7-0 just by increasing the use of Jackson, he did completely swing a Grand Final after all.

No doubt but the comfort of 7-0 allowed them to increase Jacksons ruck minutes give Maxy a rest

Check TOG prior to rnd 7 and after...Max Gawn adv stats

 

[Santoz]

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