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Is there a thread where people are posting their structures per line this year?

Not the names, just like:

DEF: 4 premos, 2 midpricers, 2 rookies
MID: 4/ 2 / 5
Etc.?

Always like to see how folks are leaning, useful guide
 
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Let the rookies be viable. Currently leaving Stephens out amongst the expensive mids, may reverse that decision, but don't like picking too many of the expensive ones as someone is bound to burn at a high price. So if I pick Stephens it will be instead of one of JHF, Daicos and Ward
Like so many teams, all I'd say is I hope you've got a contingency ready for when 90% of those bench picks aren't playing round 1!

It makes the on-field team look really strong if we pack the bench with bargains :)

The Oliver, Petracca and Neale combination is a bit of a bye problem also, especially if Berry works and is still plodding along at that point, though he'd be an obvious upgrade at that stage.

No faults on any of the individual picks outside perhaps the bench rookies.
 
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Like so many teams, all I'd say is I hope you've got a contingency ready for when 90% of those bench picks aren't playing round 1!

It makes the on-field team look really strong if we pack the bench with bargains :)

The Oliver, Petracca and Neale combination is a bit of a bye problem also, especially if Berry works and is still plodding along at that point, though he'd be an obvious upgrade at that stage.

No faults on any of the individual picks outside perhaps the bench rookies.
Cheers Wogi, I know we might not be spoiled for choice so have a few contingency plans and downgrade options. Agree re the bye, it just means I won’t pick up another player with the same bye, also have an issue with the first bye, would prefer Ridley to Lloyd for $$ but I’d have too many players with that bye (6), considering Dawson but don’t love the pick after an injury
 
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Let the rookies be viable. Currently leaving Stephens out amongst the expensive mids, may reverse that decision, but don't like picking too many of the expensive ones as someone is bound to burn at a high price. So if I pick Stephens it will be instead of one of JHF, Daicos and Ward
Can't really fault most of your premiums.

Out of curiosity, what are you expecting from Whitfield and Sicily in terms of average and games played?
 
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Can't really fault most of your premiums.

Out of curiosity, what are you expecting from Whitfield and Sicily in terms of average and games played?
Cheers

Sicily a full season if he doesn’t hurt his knee (maybe misses a game or two to suspension) with an average of 95-100.

Whitfield probably misses 4 games through the year and might need to be traded out, he has the upside to go 115+, I feel like he can really hurt me if I don’t start him. I can also see him starting on fire and then getting injured, will he score enough pts to make up for it? Dunno but I don’t want to be on the other side of it
 
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Cheers Wogi, I know we might not be spoiled for choice so have a few contingency plans and downgrade options. Agree re the bye, it just means I won’t pick up another player with the same bye, also have an issue with the first bye, would prefer Ridley to Lloyd for $$ but I’d have too many players with that bye (6), considering Dawson but don’t love the pick after an injury
To be fair, I don't think it's a major issue as really you've only got Titch and maybe a Taylor Adams, Clug, Fyfe and Brayshaw punt that share that bye and it's the easiest bye to deal with if you are looking to have issues.

I think one of the main reasons to not start Steele is he's the best upgrade target of the group with the r12 bye, ideally I think I'll want him in by then but it's definitely in my thinking.

Which means we're getting serious now as I've started to actually consider byes :LOL:
 
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To be fair, I don't think it's a major issue as really you've only got Titch and maybe a Taylor Adams, Clug, Fyfe and Brayshaw punt that share that bye and it's the easiest bye to deal with if you are looking to have issues.

I think one of the main reasons to not start Steele is he's the best upgrade target of the group with the r12 bye, ideally I think I'll want him in by then but it's definitely in my thinking.

Which means we're getting serious now as I've started to actually consider byes :LOL:
Interesting re Steele, I was thinking something similar on Steele but then thought I could easily want him before his bye, in which case trying to start without him due to the byes is sort of pointless. I could try to go without him and hold off til after the bye but theres no way to know if that works. Someone like Ridley is someone I don’t see myself needing early in the year. Steele’s early draw is incredibly favourable unless he gets a tag or two (which is a possibility)
 
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I don't think you can avoid the entire Gibcus/Stephens/Maginness/Durdin group right now if you want a playing bench.
Do Stephens and Magginess have terrific job security?

I think Stephens should work but I'm a bit worried by only two contested possessions in yesterday's game when it was the inability to win his own ball which was the implicit criticism from Longmire when interviewed about him this preseason. I'm not sure if Magginness plays round 1.
 
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Do Stephens and Magginess have terrific job security?

I think Stephens should work but I'm a bit worried by only two contested possessions in yesterday's game when it was the inability to win his own ball which was the implicit criticism from Longmire when interviewed about him this preseason. I'm not sure if Magginness plays round 1.
Your concerns are valid, but can you really fade those guys and run a budget Hough, Soligo & MacDonald type bench instead? Just seems way too risky...
 
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Your concerns are valid, but can you really fade those guys and run a budget Hough, Soligo & MacDonald type bench instead? Just seems way too risky...
Maybe regarding Stephens but don't think that applies as strongly to Magginess, I don't think his js is very good. Durdin as a small forward probably doesn't score very much and Gibcus I'm also a bit skeptical towards in terms of being able to make much money. If we get other options I'll probably take them.
 
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Interesting re Steele, I was thinking something similar on Steele but then thought I could easily want him before his bye, in which case trying to start without him due to the byes is sort of pointless. I could try to go without him and hold off til after the bye but theres no way to know if that works. Someone like Ridley is someone I don’t see myself needing early in the year. Steele’s early draw is incredibly favourable unless he gets a tag or two (which is a possibility)
It's definitely not a reason to not start him but as far as the tie breakers go, it's up there.

The early start of course is a strong counter-point to that tie breaker though.

Then of course there is his epic finish to the season where he averaged 137 post bye or 138 over the last 12. The big question on him for mine is whether that round 5-10ish period where he spent a lot of time forward was management and can be expected again this year or if it was injury and should be excluded.

Do Stephens and Magginess have terrific job security?

I think Stephens should work but I'm a bit worried by only two contested possessions in yesterday's game when it was the inability to win his own ball which was the implicit criticism from Longmire when interviewed about him this preseason. I'm not sure if Magginness plays round 1.
Stephens has a position to lose, he was really good yesterday, it's an odd criticism from Horse given it's not his job, kind of like being critical for Buddy for not having enough spoils in defensive 50. He's definitely not a lock or a must have, I think he is the cheapest of the strong rookie options though, so that works in his favour.

Maginness I don't see as anything remotely close to a lock, I'd be genuinely surprised if he played after the weekend. The number one fear I have when watching rookies is when they're playing positions that don't exist in the real stuff and him playing HBF for the Hawks is an absolutely textbook example of that given there might not a team in the league that's deeper at any position than the Hawks are at HBF.

One of those guys who even if he played round 1 I'd probably only be looking at if no one else is possible.

It's that really tough one, do you prefer a Macdonald in a really bad role that might be available or Maginness in a much better role that almost certainly shouldn't be.

Just looking at their team:

B: Hardwick Hartigan? Frost
HB: Scrimshaw Sicily Jiath?
C: Phillips Mitchell Shiels
HF: Wingard Gunston Breust
F: Moore Lewis? McEvoy
R: Reeves? O'Meara Worpel

Hartigan is going to be one of Hartigan, DGB or McEvoy (Kosi forward) from what I've seen.
Jiath could easily be Day, Impey, Bramble, Morrison, Howe or Maginness I guess.
Lewis could be Kosi
Reeves could be Lynch.

Interchange would come from: Newcombe, Brockman, Day, DGB, Kosi, Howe, Macdonald, Maginness, Morris, Morrison, Nash, Ward and Bramble.

You can make cases for a few of those guys in the starting 18 for sure but really it's switching names. I have a hard time looking at that list and saying that it wouldn't be the more experienced guys in Newcombe, Day, Impey or Howe that I pick and I'd say that Ward should be ahead of the other kids by a fair margin on performance/potential. That would mean that Morrison and Nash miss out who would likely be ahead of the kids also.

Now I can buy cases for Shiels, Phillips and Jiath out to accommodate some of them but I wouldn't anticipate it and I'm still not sure you're getting to Maginness and Macdonald unfortunately!

Admittedly there's a couple of injuries floating around to a few of those guys but I'd argue that worse than them being picked in a genuine best 22, I'm not buying any case that has Maginness or MacDonald holding the spot once Day is fit or Impey given his ability to play either end or Bramble as probably the best kick in the side.
 
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Neale @ M1 , JHF @ M2

5-Kiddy-2 (Lloyd , Crisp , Short , Whitfield , Sicily)
1-0-10
2-0-1
6-0-2 (Dunkley , Duncan , Bailey , Thomas Heeney , Butters)

14-Kiddy-15

Probably could do Duncan - > Coniglio and get Caldwell & Berry instead of 2 of the mid rookies
Only suggested it 20th February , starting to get closer and closer , if only we get 3 reliable mid bench rookies.
 
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This is where I am at, will go into detail tomorrow hopefully:-

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This is the closest team I have seen to mine so far. Very similar structure and so are a lot of the selections (17/22 the same on field currently): forwards are identical along with rucks, just a few different premium choices in defence/mids, our cheaper choices are pretty much the same.

Looks good to me! :)
 
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This is where I am at, will go into detail tomorrow hopefully:-

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Outside the bench I find it pretty hard to fault anything and if those cheap guys are there, then you're fine. Not sold on them being there though and would be surprised if it's possible to be honest.

What's the contingency in the event you have to spend on Kemp, Soligo, MacDonald and Martin?
 
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This is where I am at, will go into detail tomorrow hopefully:-

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7 of 8 bench rookies match mine
14/22 on field. Uber premos in defence and mids are different. I’m still running Trelaor but that could change. Extra forward premo one less defence premo. Needless to say with both of us theoretically running 12 premos and similar cast of mid pricers the strategy is sound. Good luck.
 
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Outside the bench I find it pretty hard to fault anything and if those cheap guys are there, then you're fine. Not sold on them being there though and would be surprised if it's possible to be honest.

What's the contingency in the event you have to spend on Kemp, Soligo, MacDonald and Martin?
Short might have to become Hewett to allow some better rookie cover, basically my current side once hed done that, just think well need the more expensive cover this year for cash gen and genuine cover purposes even if you have to sacrifice a genuine premium to do it, better than getting stuck with a bunch of rookies that don't generate any cash and provide very poor cover if we have to turn to them with Covid outs.
 
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This is where I am at, will go into detail tomorrow hopefully:-

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Outside the bench I find it pretty hard to fault anything and if those cheap guys are there, then you're fine. Not sold on them being there though and would be surprised if it's possible to be honest.

What's the contingency in the event you have to spend on Kemp, Soligo, MacDonald and Martin?
As I’m running the same bench atm, my strategy is Rowell down to McGovern. Gives $85k, it’s enough to fix one or other problem children. Shannon could consider Lloyd to Ridley, for a smaller secondary fix.
 
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Outside the bench I find it pretty hard to fault anything and if those cheap guys are there, then you're fine. Not sold on them being there though and would be surprised if it's possible to be honest.

What's the contingency in the event you have to spend on Kemp, Soligo, MacDonald and Martin?
Cheers Wogi

Hewett at D4 replacing Sicily allowing funds for Gibcus to replace Kemp, Hough &/or Joyce for Soligio/ MacDonald, either J Hayes to F8 (S Hayes to R3) or Dixon (don’t want to with the expected poor supply I expect this year but maybe no other option) for Martin.
 
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