Discussion 2023: Rate My Team

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Sam Flanders in the VFL last year :O the most impressive thing her is in the highest quality games (the 2 finals) he has absolutely dominated with computer game numbers. Producing like that in finals would definately have had the coaching staff taking notice. He only attended 6 CBA's in the praccy game so i'm not sure Touk back would effect him that much. Looking at his VFL numbers its hard to believe how completely trash he was (SC wise at least) in his 9 afl games. Not a suns fan but what was his role? Was he playing as a defensive fwd type who locks down on the opposite half back?
 
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Draft 3 - Edging closer
Taken a while to get here. Been another intriguing preseason. Probably the same as last year, but it did feel like every match on the weekend changed the team that little bit to where it currently stands. I've tried out every conceivable structure to try to be that little bit different. From a deep defensive line to R2golea. Nothing has really sat well. This feels about as good as it can get for me at the moment.
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DEF:
Docherty - Think he's the safest of the pay up options. Preseason form really good.
Ridley - Can he get back to the 2020 scoring? I'd even take the 2021 scoring to be honest.
Yeo - Really got no reason not to pick him. Not going to try to outwit the field here. Has a trend of throwing up the odd 50. Also has a trend for throwing up a lot of 100's when the body was right. The 50's hurt a lot more when his price started with a 5, not a 3.
Jones - Rock solid JS. Hopefully the intercept game can fire from the get go.
Crozier - Bit of a wildcard choice. Like many have alluded, has the scoring history of 3 straight season around that mid-high 70 mark. JS may be an issue.
Ginbey - Should be the lock of all locks.
McKenna - Don't love the pick. Like him more than Wilmot though, hence he is in. I'd call him a pure defensive pick in my team.
Cincotta - Let's hope he get's picked. Not enough $ to get to Cowan.

Structure - Crozier and Cincotta may cause issues. I don't mind rolling off Crozier to Cole if I have to. He's the next in line for me. Cincotta can then push up to Cowan if required. Trying to bat a bit deeper with more premium rookies given the lack of depth in my more premium choices.

MID:
Laird - C
Bont - VC
Green - Breakout
Ash - Important for my structure in that I fully expect him to become a defender and that's the area that I am weakest. Have strongly considered Setterfield for this position. At times have floated both, but it feels like too much risk.
Hopper - Will be at the coalface for the Tigers. I'm not going to get cute here.
Ashcroft - Gun rookie
Mackenzie - The Hawks look like they have a beauty here. Happy to have him on field.
Constable - Role looks good. JS looks above average to begin. Preseason say's he's a must. Has room to grow. Posted a really nice score with many turnovers on the weekend. He's been a bit of a turnover merchant in the past, but a couple of cleaner games should get the price going north quick.
McLean - Defensive pick. Another I dislike, but he does have the potential to hurt at his ownership.
Phillips - Role behind the more experienced mids means he's probably more a bench option to begin with.
Baker - Nice to get that cheap rookie have a decent outing. We sure needed it and it solidifies confidence in picking him.

Structure - Like the DP swings that Constable and McLean provide. I'm not batting deep here, and could possibly lose Ash to the backline after 6 rounds so I'm going to need to be savvy in upgrade choices. Oliver has barely been seen in drafts I have put together lately. Played around with Parish pre him getting tagged by Bytel. Nothing has stuck and have really only felt comfortable on those 3 pay up mids for majority of the preseason.

RUC:
Darcy - Form has been good. Don't have money for the other 2 big guns, but feel good about Darcy. He's a bit of a favourite of mine after 2021.
Marshall - Brave to go without him given his ownership.
Madden - Donut

Structure - Happy enough with this. If we can get Gawn as a FWD backup at some stage that would be nice for these 2.

FWD:
Dunkley - 3rd C/VC choice in the side.
Rozee - I don't love him, but he's in. On the fence that I'm probably being a little defensive, but who else do you pick and who has a better role?
Taranto - Definitely my number 2 premium choice. Haven't tried to out think this one.
Gulden - On the radar after the impressive game the other night.
Bruhn - Strong preseason. Prefer his role to Fyfe's.
Flanders - Been in form for a while now. 30 off HF on the weekend after he was closing out 2022 with VFL 30-40's.
Sheezel - Paying up for extra security. The kid may have many roles that could offer value so happy to go with him.
Greene - Think he's a really solid choice. JS looks solid. Don't see any reason why he can't keep his spot when Lewis comes back.

Structure - Stongest line by far. Have the DP open to cover changing up the midfield. Bench looks solid.

Overall structure - By my count it's kind of like a 9.5 premium team in that I would be hoping one of Ridley or Gulden can take the step up on their lines to push it to or beyond 10. Tried to be as flexible as possible with DP and depth. Hopefully come lockout the only thing I really have to deal with is the Crozier and Cincotta issue if those become a thing. Fully understand there will be question marks on parts of the structure and a mid priced option like Ash, but it's good for me and that's what matters. Copping a couple of defensive picks because you sort of have to play the game like that to a degree imo, especially with rookies that are highly owned. Couldn't get Callaghan in. Can't have them all.
Nice work! I think $200k for a bench rookie is stretching it. Perhaps an E-saver to allow Crozier to Callaghan. Or down to a Davey Sturt type and McLean up to Callaghan. I don’t mind the Ash pick. If Chesser and Sturt come in for McLean and Sheezel you could call him Whitfield! IDK 🤷‍♀️ if you want that kind of risk though :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:.
 
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Dawson, Young, Baker, Yeo, L. Jones, Ginbey (Wilmot, Constable)

Oliver, Merrett, Steele, Kelly, Hopper, Flanders, Ashcroft, Phillips (Johnson, Baker, Davey)

Marshall, Grundy (Madden)

Dunkley, Cogs, Taranto, Allen, Mclean, Voss (Phillippou, Sinn)

Tempting to go with Lycett > Grundy. Means I can get another uber premium mid eg Laird or Neale. Quite like Liam Baker as a bit of a POD. Also temped to fade Ashcroft. Big call but I'm just not sure about him.
 
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Dawson, Young, Baker, Yeo, L. Jones, Ginbey (Wilmot, Constable)

Oliver, Merrett, Steele, Kelly, Hopper, Flanders, Ashcroft, Phillips (Johnson, Baker, Davey)

Marshall, Grundy (Madden)

Dunkley, Cogs, Taranto, Allen, Mclean, Voss (Phillippou, Sinn)

Tempting to go with Lycett > Grundy. Means I can get another uber premium mid eg Laird or Neale. Quite like Liam Baker as a bit of a POD. Also temped to fade Ashcroft. Big call but I'm just not sure about him.
Here's a tip for free, don't fade Ashcroft :)
 
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Alright legends, since so many of you are openly sharing your latest drafts I figured I should do the same. I'm quite happy with this team (I give it 3 hours until this changes).

It's not without risk, and a little bit of Cats-fan-bias, but hey, that's Supercoach.

DEF:
- Obviously heavy on the rookies/risk here, although it seems almost everyone is fielding the Ginbey/Constable/McKenna types
- Bowes has become a bit of a smokey it seems. I think he's in Cats best 22, and he looked a class above in the first half of the first practice match, but then mysteriously was rested for the second half and second practice match, which has me nervous. Leaving for now as he's easy to downgrade if not named and could easily become Jones if I chicken out.

MID:
- Nothing too fancy or surprising here, just gone with some heavy hitters. I really want to pick Touk, he's such a joy to watch, but feels a bit too risky given the hamstring.
- Hopper wasn't in my side at all this preseason, but then on the weekend I realised he's a) an easy correction trade if he stinks it up and b) a decent chance to score pretty similarly to Taranto and $200k less. Once I unlocked that it felt like a no-brainer.
- Phillips on the bench feels like it could be a waste if he fires. There's a chance I swing Flanders FWD to get Phillips on the ground and bench or downgrade a McClean

RUCK:
- Fear the beard. I'm a big Gawny fan and expect Melbourne to be very good this year hence the pick.

FWD:
- 3 of the 'big 4'
- Ziebell, who appears to be reappointed to his 'Seagull' role from 2 years ago
- Bruhn, who I expect to get plenty of MID opportunity as the future of the Cats midfield, and has shown he doesn't need heaps of possessions to score well
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Bowes from what I've read has been seen several times with a limp and compression bandage IIRC around the calf. Sometimes where there's smoke there's fire so one to keep a close eye on. Mids and Rucks are awesome, not much more to say there. JZ, Bruhn and McLean - struggling to get my head around any of these three and all have been in and out of my team these last few days. Currently have none of them. JZ might find his way back depending on any commentary to come out of the club around his role and future, Bruhn maybe also but I think he needs the CBA's and I don't think he'll get as much as that last preseason game and McLean really scares the **** out of me. Could be the best of the sub $200k rookie priced players or might not even get a game or be used as the sub, that's a big risk for a guy to be on the field.
 
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Alright legends, since so many of you are openly sharing your latest drafts I figured I should do the same. I'm quite happy with this team (I give it 3 hours until this changes).

It's not without risk, and a little bit of Cats-fan-bias, but hey, that's Supercoach.

DEF:
- Obviously heavy on the rookies/risk here, although it seems almost everyone is fielding the Ginbey/Constable/McKenna types
- Bowes has become a bit of a smokey it seems. I think he's in Cats best 22, and he looked a class above in the first half of the first practice match, but then mysteriously was rested for the second half and second practice match, which has me nervous. Leaving for now as he's easy to downgrade if not named and could easily become Jones if I chicken out.

MID:
- Nothing too fancy or surprising here, just gone with some heavy hitters. I really want to pick Touk, he's such a joy to watch, but feels a bit too risky given the hamstring.
- Hopper wasn't in my side at all this preseason, but then on the weekend I realised he's a) an easy correction trade if he stinks it up and b) a decent chance to score pretty similarly to Taranto and $200k less. Once I unlocked that it felt like a no-brainer.
- Phillips on the bench feels like it could be a waste if he fires. There's a chance I swing Flanders FWD to get Phillips on the ground and bench or downgrade a McClean

RUCK:
- Fear the beard. I'm a big Gawny fan and expect Melbourne to be very good this year hence the pick.

FWD:
- 3 of the 'big 4'
- Ziebell, who appears to be reappointed to his 'Seagull' role from 2 years ago
- Bruhn, who I expect to get plenty of MID opportunity as the future of the Cats midfield, and has shown he doesn't need heaps of possessions to score well
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Great team. Swing McLean to mid bench and run Phillips. If you downgrade Oliver look to upgrade a rookie to Liam Jones and swing Phillips back to the mid bench.
 

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Post PS games team

Remaining musical chairs

- Rookies to fill F5-F6. Actually really like Sheezal but his price is tricky.
- Really like the Neale pick. Not massively bullish on Steele but he gives a handy $75k. Maybe thats a downgrad if Sheezal becomes must have
- McLean - I still think he's an ok pick. Bulldogs seem to want him in the side. If he was a first year player with his role and dpp feel like he'd be a lock. Happy to see his first 2 rounds before culling if needed (Sheezal?)
- Gulden. Happy to believe the hype. Feel like he averages similar to Cogs, and is easy to fix.
- English. Assuming he's fit I like him more than others. Mobile ruckman in a team that shares it around. His early rounds like tough but i think i'll close my yes and let this one run. Slight POD too these days.
- Defense - Would love Stewart in there but that would require a mid sacrafise and I'm not keen on moving anyone in there
- Speaking of mids, Jelly as a POD possibly pushing 120. Could be the year he gets 65-70% CBAs. He's gone huge before and always been hampered by role and injury. Has played 21 games last two seasons. Close to a lock for me.
 
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Hey guys, I'm going to need a fair bit of help from those willing. I've just started a new job and I've hardly had time to scratch myself. This is a very rough draft with some obvious placeholders. How am I going structurally etc. Feedback desperately needed.

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Hey guys, I'm going to need a fair bit of help from those willing. I've just started a new job and I've hardly had time to scratch myself. This is a very rough draft with some obvious placeholders. How am I going structurally etc. Feedback desperately needed.

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The only one really staring at me as a potential issue is Darcy Cameron. Cox was used a little more in the ruck and looked okay, I was on Darcy Cameron early but really didn't see enough in the preseason game to stick by him.

Yeo is the big one I see missing from the masses - he's getting minutes, some were also scared off by Daicos in his last preseason hit out where he was tagged and not as influential around the ground.

McKenzie from the Hawks has been impressive, might be an opportunity to move Goater on, move Ginbey down back and bring in McKenzie. Daicos to Yep will free up some more cash which might even get you Fyfe up towards a forward premium.

Oscar Baker from the dogs was also impressive, Greene from the Hawks should get games also in the forward line.
 
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Hey guys, I'm going to need a fair bit of help from those willing. I've just started a new job and I've hardly had time to scratch myself. This is a very rough draft with some obvious placeholders. How am I going structurally etc. Feedback desperately needed.

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If you are really stuck for time I would wait until the HS posts the pick one of these and three of these articles.

Structure wise seems good.
You have a C and VC option.
I havn't checked byes.
Injury risk seems low.

Then to the small issues:
- D Cameron will share ruck with Cox so maybe better options
- Cowan and Cincotta may not play Round 1 so watch
- I'm not a fan of Ratugolea as he has an inflated price, low JS and low scoring history
- Fergus Greene is a popular FWD rookie you don't have
- Yeo in the backline as a fallen premium should be looked at
 
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Hey guys, I'm going to need a fair bit of help from those willing. I've just started a new job and I've hardly had time to scratch myself. This is a very rough draft with some obvious placeholders. How am I going structurally etc. Feedback desperately needed.

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Nice team 12 keepers + Hopper and Fyfe is pretty strong. Sinn won't make Round 1, Cameron's scoring is questionable with Cox and I'm not sure about Goater's scoring potential; I would swing Ginbey into defence and bring in MacKenzie for Goater.
 
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Post PS games team

Remaining musical chairs

- Rookies to fill F5-F6. Actually really like Sheezal but his price is tricky.
- Really like the Neale pick. Not massively bullish on Steele but he gives a handy $75k. Maybe thats a downgrad if Sheezal becomes must have
- McLean - I still think he's an ok pick. Bulldogs seem to want him in the side. If he was a first year player with his role and dpp feel like he'd be a lock. Happy to see his first 2 rounds before culling if needed (Sheezal?)
- Gulden. Happy to believe the hype. Feel like he averages similar to Cogs, and is easy to fix.
- English. Assuming he's fit I like him more than others. Mobile ruckman in a team that shares it around. His early rounds like tough but i think i'll close my yes and let this one run. Slight POD too these days.
- Defense - Would love Stewart in there but that would require a mid sacrafise and I'm not keen on moving anyone in there
- Speaking of mids, Jelly as a POD possibly pushing 120. Could be the year he gets 65-70% CBAs. He's gone huge before and always been hampered by role and injury. Has played 21 games last two seasons. Close to a lock for me.
I only have 2 questions/issues:
1/. Your notes didn't show up on my screen? Site issue?
2/. The injury profile of your team. Yeo, Kelly, English, and to a lesser extent Hopper and Taranto. We have more trades than usual but is this a issue?
 

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Solid as usual, you of all people don't need to be told this. Love it. Interesting to see what happens with RAT and McLean though but at least there should be options if one or neither get a gig like Sturt and Sheezel
Cheers for your thoughts mate - yeah Rat and Mclean can 100% move up or down. I think theres a blanket on a few of those and i do expect a $123k'er could do their job. As much about locking in the funds for now. Very happy correcting those if needed
 
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I only have 2 questions/issues:
1/. Your notes didn't show up on my screen? Site issue?
2/. The injury profile of your team. Yeo, Kelly, English, and to a lesser extent Hopper and Taranto. We have more trades than usual but is this a issue?
Notes - you mean my comments? maybe they are there now?

2 - nah i dont think about this a lot. playing to win basically. you pick the best $/pt to start the year. Yeo - risk is shared by all so that isn't important. Same with Hopper and Taranto. Bench rookies I have are decent so plenty of cover. Kelly - he's played 2 yrs of 21 games, played all the PS. Stats scream buy - you can only get an advantage in this game by taking a risk, otherwise you just get the same player as the next guy.
English - tbh i'm surprised he's not more popular. Maybe i'm being naive about the concussion risk but he's proven his scoring, he has zero competition for ruck time. Is extremely mobile (the most?) of all rucks and in a team that utilizes that. His round 1 match up aint great but to me he's probably no 1 ruck if he plays 22 games. Once upon a time Gawn never played due to injury until he didn't (not claiming a Gawn like ascension) but for him to be less than 20% picked surprises me considering the scores he could put out and the certainty about his role.
 
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Notes - you mean my comments? maybe they are there now?

2 - nah i dont think about this a lot. playing to win basically. you pick the best $/pt to start the year. Yeo - risk is shared by all so that isn't important. Same with Hopper and Taranto. Bench rookies I have are decent so plenty of cover. Kelly - he's played 2 yrs of 21 games, played all the PS. Stats scream buy - you can only get an advantage in this game by taking a risk, otherwise you just get the same player as the next guy.
English - tbh i'm surprised he's not more popular. Maybe i'm being naive about the concussion risk but he's proven his scoring, he has zero competition for ruck time. Is extremely mobile (the most?) of all rucks and in a team that utilizes that. His round 1 match up aint great but to me he's probably no 1 ruck if he plays 22 games. Once upon a time Gawn never played due to injury until he didn't (not claiming a Gawn like ascension) but for him to be less than 20% picked surprises me considering the scores he could put out and the certainty about his role.
1/. The notes "Remaining musical chairs" now show up.

2/. As long as you have thought about it and have a reasoning there is no issue. Injury history, byes, etc. are only a problem if you don't look aat them or fail to plan for them.
 
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