Discussion 2023: Rate My Team
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It could work but it looks like you have too many secondary guns (Ridley, Daicos, Green, maybe Whitfield if he gets D/M). Add Setterfield, Hopper, Worpel, Fyfe and Bruhn and you probably start solidly, but I can see you falling behind unless everyone you pick fires. I'd probably turn Whitfield and Setterfield into a rookie/elite mid gun just to hedge your bets.
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What I’ve ended up doing is getting MacKenzie in instead of Chandler (Davey going forward). To fund that I did Doch to Ridley who I think has a decent chance of a better role in more of a chip mark game style this season. If you include finals and exclude injury games he went 105 and 105 the two years previous
Even though I have some doubts about the mid time and scoring with MacKenzie just because various previous rookies have been exposed to the role or scored well in preseason and then Flopped, I don’t think I can pick all of Greene, Davey and Chandler because their cash gen prospects are too poor
Even though I have some doubts about the mid time and scoring with MacKenzie just because various previous rookies have been exposed to the role or scored well in preseason and then Flopped, I don’t think I can pick all of Greene, Davey and Chandler because their cash gen prospects are too poor
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Ended up looking way more normal than I thought it would be.
I always put it together by creating lists, Rucks, Captains, Cash Cows (on ground vs bench), Premiums and put it all together without any preconceived ideas and this is how it came out.
I thought Yeo might end up at D1 but I prefer the mid pricers, Hopper, Ash etc to the expensive rookie defenders like Jones, Crozier, Stocker. Sheed, Worpel and Setterfield were next in the pecking order.
$184k left but doesn't get me to another premium I like so will keep it in the bank.
I always put it together by creating lists, Rucks, Captains, Cash Cows (on ground vs bench), Premiums and put it all together without any preconceived ideas and this is how it came out.
I thought Yeo might end up at D1 but I prefer the mid pricers, Hopper, Ash etc to the expensive rookie defenders like Jones, Crozier, Stocker. Sheed, Worpel and Setterfield were next in the pecking order.
$184k left but doesn't get me to another premium I like so will keep it in the bank.
I'm not very confident about my season, (have had huge interruptions to my preseason), somewhat like Essendon's - but it's good to squeeze a bit of time in with you guys. Still the best and most encouraging SC society. I hope I can do some justice to PL2, and also come to the get-together this year, finally. Good luck everyone, I'll be engaged as much as I can. (Caveat Emptor).
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Somewhat agree with the above.
If you think you have two decent captaincy options out of Bont/Darcy/Dunks, then roll with this side & back in your gut. You've got the trades to turn Whitfield & Setterfield into a must-have rookie you miss & another premo captaincy option after Round 2 too. If Whitfield and Setterfield fire early, you could be onto a winner.
If you think you have two decent captaincy options out of Bont/Darcy/Dunks, then roll with this side & back in your gut. You've got the trades to turn Whitfield & Setterfield into a must-have rookie you miss & another premo captaincy option after Round 2 too. If Whitfield and Setterfield fire early, you could be onto a winner.
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Okay, spent today watching a few games on Kayo, even the mini's are pretty helpful and I can't believe I've never watched them previously. Anyway, still plenty to play out and a quick outline on the below.
Most of my teams have Doch and Dawson D1 and D2 - still like that structure but looking for some value and dollars and Ridley is one that caught my eye. I didn't get burned last season so there's no prior hurt here but he gives me options if he doesn't look good to potentially go to Cumming, Daicos or Young if needed. Even down to Liam Jones who I'm not liking at this stage but will watch.
Really wanted 3 captain options in the mids - Macrae I think can get back to good numbers and usually starts well, also like Neale, Oliver and Brayshaw.
Flanders looked good, reading a lot of posts I was of the impression that Touk coming back would be a real factor in his scoring - personally didn't see that in the preseason game I watched, only noticed him in 1 or 2 CBA's and was pushing high HF and further up the ground and looked dangerous with the ball, very creative.
I'm not 100% sold on Darcy - if I was to move Ridley down to Liam Jones I'd likely move him to Gawn. What I did look at was Darcy trajectory with Gawn around the same vintage - makes for some interesting reading.
Anyway, no doubt this has changed by the time you've finished reading this so let the games begin.
Most of my teams have Doch and Dawson D1 and D2 - still like that structure but looking for some value and dollars and Ridley is one that caught my eye. I didn't get burned last season so there's no prior hurt here but he gives me options if he doesn't look good to potentially go to Cumming, Daicos or Young if needed. Even down to Liam Jones who I'm not liking at this stage but will watch.
Really wanted 3 captain options in the mids - Macrae I think can get back to good numbers and usually starts well, also like Neale, Oliver and Brayshaw.
Flanders looked good, reading a lot of posts I was of the impression that Touk coming back would be a real factor in his scoring - personally didn't see that in the preseason game I watched, only noticed him in 1 or 2 CBA's and was pushing high HF and further up the ground and looked dangerous with the ball, very creative.
I'm not 100% sold on Darcy - if I was to move Ridley down to Liam Jones I'd likely move him to Gawn. What I did look at was Darcy trajectory with Gawn around the same vintage - makes for some interesting reading.
Anyway, no doubt this has changed by the time you've finished reading this so let the games begin.
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I haven't been able to find a balance with Setterfield that I like. Picking him adds another mid price is what I'm finding, say a Fyfe, whilst losing a premium in the process. I do have some bench cover that can possibly be cashed down, but it doesn't get to Setterfield alone and I don't really want to rip my team up.
I guess the thing that stopped me was that Setterfield got to 47% CBAs in the practice match. Is that enough at 348K? Where as I can see a clearer path with what Ash can provide for my side with incoming DP. At 335K I would have considered him as a DEF pick with him heading into year 4, so I just think there's less risk with that, provided he does get the DP.
Last year I had Lipinski who didn't come remotely close to making the step up as a premium midfielder, however once he picked up the FWD DP it was a different ball game. Being able to hide him in a position that demands less of a ceiling, and replace with a true MID premium just allowed not getting completely burnt by the pick. He was a reason I was never going to finish remotely close to the pointy end, but DP made it easier to rise up the ranks a bit.
Mid spots are pretty valuable and I whilst I don't mind Setters it's an extremely brave pick.
I guess the thing that stopped me was that Setterfield got to 47% CBAs in the practice match. Is that enough at 348K? Where as I can see a clearer path with what Ash can provide for my side with incoming DP. At 335K I would have considered him as a DEF pick with him heading into year 4, so I just think there's less risk with that, provided he does get the DP.
Last year I had Lipinski who didn't come remotely close to making the step up as a premium midfielder, however once he picked up the FWD DP it was a different ball game. Being able to hide him in a position that demands less of a ceiling, and replace with a true MID premium just allowed not getting completely burnt by the pick. He was a reason I was never going to finish remotely close to the pointy end, but DP made it easier to rise up the ranks a bit.
Mid spots are pretty valuable and I whilst I don't mind Setters it's an extremely brave pick.
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I feel like we're standing at opposite ends of a see-saw 
I can't really fault any of the picks, I definitely prefer Ziebell to Fyfe after preseason and would try that if going such a high risk forward group, just don't like having such an injury prone and questionable guy at F2, especially given F3 is also questionable and F4 could also be questionable quite easily. I actually like them all but compounding risk in a position can backfire as you run out of contingency plans, I'd definitely at least be trying to have a M/F rookie on the bench as well to cover in the event of injury. Ratugolea could also fail and Greene is a rookie in a bad side.
I like it though, it's certainly very different, good year to try that, imo, as there will be high variability in the starting structures and sides and that magnifies the rewards of getting the right one but also minimises the risk a bit because it's not you against the world, it's just you vs 5 other structures so the pure amount of catchup if you're wrong is against a smaller group.
Always enjoy the unconventional angles you find!
I can't really fault any of the picks, I definitely prefer Ziebell to Fyfe after preseason and would try that if going such a high risk forward group, just don't like having such an injury prone and questionable guy at F2, especially given F3 is also questionable and F4 could also be questionable quite easily. I actually like them all but compounding risk in a position can backfire as you run out of contingency plans, I'd definitely at least be trying to have a M/F rookie on the bench as well to cover in the event of injury. Ratugolea could also fail and Greene is a rookie in a bad side.
I like it though, it's certainly very different, good year to try that, imo, as there will be high variability in the starting structures and sides and that magnifies the rewards of getting the right one but also minimises the risk a bit because it's not you against the world, it's just you vs 5 other structures so the pure amount of catchup if you're wrong is against a smaller group.
Always enjoy the unconventional angles you find!
Seems to be a recurring theme with my cheap forward line structures:
2022: J Dunkley, Z Butters, S Coniglio, M McGovern, W Brodie, T Xerri
2021: J Dunkley, J Ziebell, J Daniher, J Impey, P Dow and C Warner
2020: C Petracca, T Lynch, A Brayshaw (Traded in RD3
to J Simpkin), D Smith, J Brander, C TaylorBar Dunkley hard to separate the likes of Coniglio, Moore, Rozee, Gulden etc and hoping that their prices drop/maintain around the high $400,000 to low $500,000 range early. Not too confident in the forwards getting off to fast starts along with the position home to the lower scoring premiums over the past few seasons (comparative to other lines) whilst possibly trying to exploit those that are going heavy in the forwards and light in the midfield,etc. Is reliant on those forward premiums coming out with mid to low nineties averages or worse over the first 5-6+ rounds and my fwd midpricers hitting or closing the gap whilst earning close to or greater than $100k.
Been critical of Taranto’s ball use in the past and do not particularly want to double up on the new Tigers mids but want exposure to at least one. Ideally Hopper goes close to matching his production at a $170,000 discount over the first five to eight odd rounds and then can be traded to a fwd premium ideally using a rookie to be cashed out for $100,000 + via a mid/fwd. Also ideally Fye lasts at least five rounds and can increase his price close to the $400,000 range for a quick upgrade once dual position changes are announced and the soft early draw finishes. Squeezing Ziebell back in could be done for a Bowes to rookie pushing Constable onfield and Sheezel up to Ziebell. Similar to the Fyfe selection in the hope that he can provide value at the start of the season, possibly be switched to the backline if required and ideally allow a quick upgrade to a T Stewart/fwd premium type.
