Position 2023: Midfield Discussion
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Many don't rate him as a player (I do)
Few scared of when coaches mention he can rotate through wing (I don't really think he will much)
No Stringer in the early rounds - possibly no Caldwell for Round 1. Caldwell is probably the most influential in terms of stealing his CBA's, although they could co-exist, it would be much better for Setterfield if Caldwell was out for a few rounds (especially if Setterfield can cement his importance in Rounds 1-2)
Few scared of when coaches mention he can rotate through wing (I don't really think he will much)
No Stringer in the early rounds - possibly no Caldwell for Round 1. Caldwell is probably the most influential in terms of stealing his CBA's, although they could co-exist, it would be much better for Setterfield if Caldwell was out for a few rounds (especially if Setterfield can cement his importance in Rounds 1-2)
I quite like the pick, as you said - shifting him out to a wing doesn’t make a huge amount of sense with all their outside runners. Their first 6 weeks is about as good as it gets too - might struggle against the Dees but Collingwood consistently gave up big points to inside mids last year.
I’ll let this one steep overnight but he’s shot to the front of my Yeo reshuffle list.
I’ll let this one steep overnight but he’s shot to the front of my Yeo reshuffle list.
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Who was that guy we had in SCE years ago that used to post injury news like a day later than when everyone knew about it @bluebloods - I used to think he just did it every time for ****s and giggles and was his own personal joke 
I'd actually argue that both of Taranto and Hopper are addition by subtraction.
Not so much because of them as players, they're both perfectly capable players but more because of what they forced the coaches to do.
There was clearly an intention to keep them, which meant prioritising their roles over better players, Hopper especially is utterly one dimensional so the guys who could play other roles end up playing them so that he can fit into the side. Taranto I actually think is much better as a forward where his disposal isn't as toxic but he was also getting a prime role.
Basically Coniglio and Kelly, both much better players were forced out of the midfield for large periods. Throw in Green who was pushed to fringe roles as well once both were back in the side (midfield for Taranto once Toby was back).
They should actually be a better side by having their three best midfielders actually playing genuine midfield roles. Preuss also looks to actually be fit and might get a run at it this year without Cameron playing musical chairs with the ruck spot.
I'm still not sold on Green though, his first 7 weeks were great last year but there's not really any great reason for his drop off, his CBA and role were both pretty consistent through the year, he just stopped scoring really. The question is if he can produce that first 7 weeks for a season or if that was more the anomaly for him. About the best "positive" I can find outside that purple patch was that his last 6 weeks with Hopper in the side were pretty horrible but I have to temper that with it also being the time when Coniglio started to get strong midfield minutes also. He was much better late when Perryman played though.
He's a really conflicting study, he could average 90, 100, 110 or 120 and I think you can make just about as good a case for all 4 of those. Looking at the pack this year, I can't help but feel like 115 is the target line and 110 is the bare minimum for him.
Not so much because of them as players, they're both perfectly capable players but more because of what they forced the coaches to do.
There was clearly an intention to keep them, which meant prioritising their roles over better players, Hopper especially is utterly one dimensional so the guys who could play other roles end up playing them so that he can fit into the side. Taranto I actually think is much better as a forward where his disposal isn't as toxic but he was also getting a prime role.
Basically Coniglio and Kelly, both much better players were forced out of the midfield for large periods. Throw in Green who was pushed to fringe roles as well once both were back in the side (midfield for Taranto once Toby was back).
They should actually be a better side by having their three best midfielders actually playing genuine midfield roles. Preuss also looks to actually be fit and might get a run at it this year without Cameron playing musical chairs with the ruck spot.
I'm still not sold on Green though, his first 7 weeks were great last year but there's not really any great reason for his drop off, his CBA and role were both pretty consistent through the year, he just stopped scoring really. The question is if he can produce that first 7 weeks for a season or if that was more the anomaly for him. About the best "positive" I can find outside that purple patch was that his last 6 weeks with Hopper in the side were pretty horrible but I have to temper that with it also being the time when Coniglio started to get strong midfield minutes also. He was much better late when Perryman played though.
He's a really conflicting study, he could average 90, 100, 110 or 120 and I think you can make just about as good a case for all 4 of those. Looking at the pack this year, I can't help but feel like 115 is the target line and 110 is the bare minimum for him.
