2015: Rate My Team - Part II (SC Gold Team Picker Edition)

[Brettthejett]

Thx Brett how are you,

I initially had Sloane Swallow and Van Berlo but changed a def. and went for Rocky , not the way i should go in your opinion

Not at all mate have a look at my team back on pg7 I think it is. I currently have the top 5 mids in to but it makes it hard for the rest of team to be appealing. E.g if we had another 500k or so u could make a ripper team to start with I'd think

 

[Bob Loblaw]

WAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too many mid pricers

Newnes. J
Mayes. S
Langdon. T
Vlaustin. N
Waters. B

Murphy. M
Swallow. A
Mitchell. S
Van berlo. N
Anderson. J

is too many! Especially with the vast majority unproven keepers

Also you need a lot more mid rookies, lose most of Murphy, Swallow, Mitchell, Van berlo, Anderson for Ultra Premium and rookies and upgrade your backline a bit. Mid pricers/speculative players are good to have but to have 10 is crazy, there are all not going to work and become ultra top 10 premiums

Yeah agree especially with those mid midpricers of Murphy Swallow and Mitchell offering little upside at least in my opinion.
Defense is good but the main issue is picking Langdon as a second year player who had a good but not amazing year. Also like Mayes although he could be pushed forward and to the outer of the Brisbane team with the return of rich and other players. A lot of uncertainty but a lot of upside for a lot of those Brisbane a players.

Very much like the idea of Vlaustin who snuck under the radar, would love to know your reasonings behind him?

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Bennell is an interesting one, was on my radar the whole pre-season.
Depending on how he goes during the NAB cup, I may switch Goddard to him and save me some bucks.
Just an opinion but I think Ryder's scoring could be hampered by Lobbe.

Bennel is almost a lock for a 105+ year IF he stays injury free. Now that is a big if. Almost as much risk as running Cyril in your team.

 

[Bontempele]

Bennel is almost a lock for a 105+ year IF he stays injury free. Now that is a big if. Almost as much risk as running Cyril in your team.

I completely agree. Has virtually the same progression as Swallow, just with an average of about 15 more! Also 1 year later but that could be a positive.

As you say though, he is a big injury risk. Has been injured last 2 years and again in the pre season, albeit a minor setback.

Numerous players do get injured early in their first 4 years before staying fit in the next few years.

I just don't want to miss out on him averaging 110! Especially if he gets injured late in the season or not at all. In my team ATM.

 

[Manikato1]

Agree about injuries and Bennell plus he hasn't improved his SC average in the past 3 seasons. His TOG was 89% last year so no natural improvement likely via that and his contested possessions actually went down last year. Not sure about how much upside there is but he should ave mid 90's again.

Swallow last year actually had his TOG go down to 77.5% and his contested possessions go up to 11.4 from 8.5 the previous year.

 

[Hawk]

Hi everyone, another draft on another ridiculously hot Melbourne day.

This explains the dots, I chuck them down just for future referrence to the byes.

Round 11 : 8
Round 12 : 12
Round 13 : 10

Any suggestions on what could be improved here, or where I should maybe hold off a touch? I have gone huge in the forward line, but I don't mind one of those players becoming a F7/M9 loophole player later on down the track. The backline rookies are just fillers for the time being, not entirely sure who will be actually playing this season, so we'll adjust that when the time comes closer. Thanks in advance!

 

[Junior Wölf]

D: Smith, Hibberd/Hurn/Lumumba, Newnes, Waters, Edwards, Goddard (McGuinness, Newman)

M: Ablett, Rockliff, Pendlebury, Ward, Dangerfield, Heeney, Freeman, Boekhorst, (Laverde, Smith, Vandenberg)

R: Maric, Naitanui, (Lobb)

F: Deledio, Franklin, Martin, Swan, Clark, Hogan (Krakouer, Lambert)

Quite happy with the team thus far but there are different variations in my head.

Queries:

I love a fit and firing Maric and Nic Nat starting off in ruck but I am worried about spending too much money. There are cheaper options with TBC, Kruz, and Berger and would save 200K for downgrading Maric and using funds to put in another 350k-450k defender for a poor scoring + job security on-field rookie.

Only premo locks are Lids + Swan barring injury. But as everyone else is, tossing up names like BJ, Titch, Bennell, Dusty, Buddy and Gray - all with their own pros and cons.

Also nervous about having both Gaz and Rocky. Could save 100K from downgrading Rocky to Jelwood. Danger has his own queries with the dreaded "contract talks" that I fear with effect him. I could have Gaz, Rocky, Pendles, Jelwood and 4 playing rookies as there will be more then other sections. means I can upgrade in both defence and forward line.

 

[Junior Wölf]

Hi everyone, another draft on another ridiculously hot Melbourne day.

This explains the dots, I chuck them down just for future referrence to the byes.

Round 11 : 8
Round 12 : 12
Round 13 : 10

Any suggestions on what could be improved here, or where I should maybe hold off a touch? I have gone huge in the forward line, but I don't mind one of those players becoming a F7/M9 loophole player later on down the track. The backline rookies are just fillers for the time being, not entirely sure who will be actually playing this season, so we'll adjust that when the time comes closer. Thanks in advance!

Not really sure why some people are picking Whitecross. I understand he is underpriced for a established player (body and maturity wise), but you are asking a guy to come into the reigning premiers team at the expense of someone else from that day (likely Taylor Duryea). Not only that, but Frawley is now most likely heading to defence. For a guy that hasn't played any senior footy for a whole year, there isn't exactly any holes anywhere in the hawks team. Hawks always have injuries and will most likely play a dozen or so games but there aren't any injuries (that I know of) to senior premiership players for Whitecross to replace in R1. Apart from that it is a pretty stock standard team. Love the JZ POD in forward line. Should be interesting to see who replaces Greenwood and it could be him.

 

[Hawk]

D: Smith, Hibberd/Hurn/Lumumba, Newnes, Waters, Edwards, Goddard (McGuinness, Newman)

M: Ablett, Rockliff, Pendlebury, Ward, Dangerfield, Heeney, Freeman, Boekhorst, (Laverde, Smith, Vandenberg)

R: Maric, Naitanui, (Lobb)

F: Deledio, Franklin, Martin, Swan, Clark, Hogan (Krakouer, Lambert)

Quite happy with the team thus far but there are different variations in my head.

Queries:

I love a fit and firing Maric and Nic Nat starting off in ruck but I am worried about spending too much money. There are cheaper options with TBC, Kruz, and Berger and would save 200K for downgrading Maric and using funds to put in another 350k-450k defender for a poor scoring + job security on-field rookie.

Only premo locks are Lids + Swan barring injury. But as everyone else is, tossing up names like BJ, Titch, Bennell, Dusty, Buddy and Gray - all with their own pros and cons.

Also nervous about having both Gaz and Rocky. Could save 100K from downgrading Rocky to Jelwood. Danger has his own queries with the dreaded "contract talks" that I fear with effect him. I could have Gaz, Rocky, Pendles, Jelwood and 4 playing rookies as there will be more then other sections. means I can upgrade in both defence and forward line.

Looks great so far but I feel your worries in the ruck. Facing the facts, I'd say most coaches make 2-3 trades a season in the ruck line, so in my opinion why not start as cheap as you can and aim for the sky? Either way, if and when it comes to trade time, you're not sitting there going "****, Maric has done a knee, and lost me 85k, now I'm back at square one" You could just trade a TBC / Kreuzer for about what they're worth now ( hopefully a bit of profit ) with a decent look in to who IS actually an in form ruckman. Can't fault many of your other picks though mate, they all have fantastic potential. Those 3 defenders you're tossing up between are 3 I'm also waiting to check out in the NAB!

Good luck mate, looking forward to your updates!

Not really sure why some people are picking Whitecross. I understand he is underpriced for a established player (body and maturity wise), but you are asking a guy to come into the reigning premiers team at the expense of someone else from that day (likely Taylor Duryea). Not only that, but Frawley is now most likely heading to defence. For a guy that hasn't played any senior footy for a whole year, there isn't exactly any holes anywhere in the hawks team. Hawks always have injuries and will most likely play a dozen or so games but there aren't any injuries (that I know of) to senior premiership players for Whitecross to replace in R1. Apart from that it is a pretty stock standard team. Love the JZ POD in forward line. Should be interesting to see who replaces Greenwood and it could be him.

In response to the Whitecross, it's something I threw in today. I completely understand where you're coming from. Either way, Whitecross will be either left there ( if he looks good / looks like earning a spot back in our 22 ) be replaced with a rookie of equal value who looks like getting a game, and making some money, or replaced with a premium defender ( via Ward / Wines ). Wait and see at this stage, but I have always had a man-crush on Whitty.

 

[Hawk]

Your team looks awesome Hawk!

Can you make those coloured dots blink on and off ?

It looks just like a Christmas tree

I'm still confused as to why the SC Team Picker doesn't include something similar. Colour coded dots like the selection ( Green/Orange/Red ). That would be a fantastic addition!

 

[Junior Wölf]

Looks great so far but I feel your worries in the ruck. Facing the facts, I'd say most coaches make 2-3 trades a season in the ruck line, so in my opinion why not start as cheap as you can and aim for the sky? Either way, if and when it comes to trade time, you're not sitting there going "****, Maric has done a knee, and lost me 85k, now I'm back at square one" You could just trade a TBC / Kreuzer for about what they're worth now ( hopefully a bit of profit ) with a decent look in to who IS actually an in form ruckman. Can't fault many of your other picks though mate, they all have fantastic potential. Those 3 defenders you're tossing up between are 3 I'm also waiting to check out in the NAB!

Wait and see at this stage, but I have always had a man-crush on Whitty.

Thanks for the feedback on ruck situation. Can't wait until NAB games. Puopolo is my man-crush. That dude is a legend.

 

[Deeman1]

Hi everyone, another draft on another ridiculously hot Melbourne day.

This explains the dots, I chuck them down just for future referrence to the byes.

Round 11 : 8
Round 12 : 12
Round 13 : 10

Any suggestions on what could be improved here, or where I should maybe hold off a touch? I have gone huge in the forward line, but I don't mind one of those players becoming a F7/M9 loophole player later on down the track. The backline rookies are just fillers for the time being, not entirely sure who will be actually playing this season, so we'll adjust that when the time comes closer. Thanks in advance!

Hey Hawk,

Your team is looking good for this stage, maybe a bit light on down back.

My only query is the logic between TBC at R2 and Read at F8, to me it makes more sense to had it the other way around TBC forward and Read in R3 as a swing man. TBC then becomes additional coverage for the Ruck line with someone else in R2 (eg Leuenberger).

As it stands at the moment Reads only purpose is to allow TBC to move forward, but that would then only leave Kruezer and Nankervis on the Ruck line, which could cause problems.

I'm sure you have your reasoning, but to me it makes more sense to have it the other way around.

 

[anfa18]

As it stands at the moment Reads only purpose is to allow TBC to move forward, but that would then only leave Kruezer and Nankervis on the Ruck line, which could cause problems.
I'm sure you have your reasoning, but to me it makes more sense to have it the other way around.

I only have Read as my R3 because of the captain loophole. Geelong have 5 Sunday games in the first 5 rounds, which allows me to loophole easily once my VC has played.

 

[Feerits Elf]

I only have Read as my R3 because of the captain loophole.

Which is what Hawk should have, in which case Nankervis would be his R2. Not good.

 

[Drew]

What's your thought behind picking Cheney and Lever?

Hi Feerits,
Word is he will start in their 22 , run of half back and they are looking at big things from him , and Lever a source at another club described him as a gun with attidude , and wouldn't be surprised if he started as well , is highly regarded , based on info i got i included them at this stage.

Picked Cheney as well, with Truck gone and all the talk of Smith training with the midfield group and maybe spending more time there there's definitely a spot there for him, no doubt they didn't draft a 23yo with solid experience with the regining premier to remain a fringe AFL player. Same line of thinking with Lever assuming he's ready to play AFL foorball by round one, i could see there being a spot for him.

 

[Goodie's Guns]

Not really sure why some people are picking Whitecross. I understand he is underpriced for a established player (body and maturity wise), but you are asking a guy to come into the reigning premiers team at the expense of someone else from that day (likely Taylor Duryea). Not only that, but Frawley is now most likely heading to defence. For a guy that hasn't played any senior footy for a whole year, there isn't exactly any holes anywhere in the hawks team. Hawks always have injuries and will most likely play a dozen or so games but there aren't any injuries (that I know of) to senior premiership players for Whitecross to replace in R1. Apart from that it is a pretty stock standard team. Love the JZ POD in forward line. Should be interesting to see who replaces Greenwood and it could be him.

Couldn't agree more mate, I have been thinking the exact same thing. Won't be in my starting team.
I can see him spending at least half a year at Box Hill regaining full confidence and form, then maybe pushing for senior selection in the latter half of the year, then being a possible downgrade option at some stage.

 

[Mr Young]

Picked Cheney as well, with Truck gone and all the talk of Smith training with the midfield group and maybe spending more time there there's definitely a spot there for him, no doubt they didn't draft a 23yo with solid experience with the regining premier to remain a fringe AFL player. Same line of thinking with Lever assuming he's ready to play AFL foorball by round one, i could see there being a spot for him.

Hey Drew, I'm thinking we need to blood new star backs which is why my gut has Lever penciled in down there he was drafted straight up as a key defender. Don't now about Cheney he's sooooooo mid price. Reckon he'll get games but score poorly. What do you think about Lever at this stage?

 

[Ben's Beasts]

Couldn't agree more mate, I have been thinking the exact same thing. Won't be in my starting team.
I can see him spending at least half a year at Box Hill regaining full confidence and form, then maybe pushing for senior selection in the latter half of the year, then being a possible downgrade option at some stage.

Oh really? Damn, I was banking on him playing round 1.

I had a read of a training report from the Hawks training on Monday which said that Whitecross is looking very fit and training with the main group. Surely he's a chance to play round 1?

 

[Goodie's Guns]

Oh really? Damn, I was banking on him playing round 1.

I had a read of a training report from the Hawks training on Monday which said that Whitecross is looking very fit and training with the main group. Surely he's a chance to play round 1?

As mentioned earlier the 22 from the GF is pretty much still all together, add probably another 4-6 best 22 options that are legitimate chances of coming in (e.g. Frawley, Hartung, Anderson and the likes) and I find it hard to slot in Whitecross at this stage unfortunately mate.

 

[Ben's Beasts]

As mentioned earlier the 22 from the GF is pretty much still all together, add probably another 4-6 best 22 options that are legitimate chances of coming in (e.g. Frawley, Hartung, Anderson and the likes) and I find it hard to slot in Whitecross at this stage unfortunately mate.

Fair enough. Thanks for the response mate.