2015 SC POD's & potential Cash Cow Selections

[Rowsus]

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[yakka]

Josh Caddy vs Tom Mitchell
It has been an admittedly slow start to Josh Caddy’s AFL career.
Captaining the Northern Knights in the TAC Cup, he was drafted by the Gold Coast Suns in 2010

Appears to have elevated his game in 2014 and shapes as a key clearance player for the Cats.
Everyone loves trying to pick a breakout player, and this season it seems that Josh Caddy is making headlines as being the man to do so in the forward line. Averaging 77.1, 57.5, 61.5 and 60.3 in his first 4 seasons, looking at the raw numbers it looks as though this would seem an unjustified opinion. However, being sub-affected 4 times last season.Returning with a couple of vest affected games Caddy then went out the next 8 games at an average of 97.5 including 3 scores above 100 (112, 121, 140). It also includes a sub affected 50 when he came on in the final term getting 8 touches, 1 goal and 5 tackles. Removing this score his average improves to 104.2. Coming into his 5th season we’d naturally assume he’d increase his ppg output with age and experience. Hoping to play more midfield time in 2015 also increases his potential to find the ball more often.
2014 Season
1 Adel Won 12 of 20 possessions in contested fashion and kicked a goal. Solid.
2 Bris Not as good as previous weeks but won 10 cont poss and had three inside-50s.
3 Coll Started well but faded as game wore on. Only three clearances and no goals.
4 WCE Sub. Looked to try too hard when he came on and fumbled a few balls.
5 Foot.
6 Foot.
7 Foot.
8 Foot.
9 Foot.
10 Foot.
11 Foot.
12 Foot.
13 VFL The Cats’ main ball winner on return with 22. Good.
14 GCS Sub. Didn’t have the impact in first hit out for eight weeks. Will get better.
15 Ess Sub. On in two stints but quiet. Involved in final passage for Hawkins goal.
16 WB Took significant step forward with six tackles and three inside-50s.
17 Melb Laid team-high 12 tackles and two clearances. Working back into form.
18 GWS Two third-term goals a highlight of otherwise pretty quiet performance.
19 NM Great first quarter (10 disp) and goals in second and third terms.
20 Frem Sub. On in two bursts, the first of which netted a goal. Did what he could.
21 Carl Massive. Second half (17 disposals) and mark and goal in final term were key.
22 Haw Only nine disposals in second half after 17 in first. Team high 15 cont poss.
23 Bris Three goals, five inside-50s, five clearances and nine contested possessions.
QF Haw Poor night. Only two inside-50s, two clearances and no goals.
SF NM Bounced back from poor game against Hawks to be among the best.

 

[BC]

I like caddy even tho he screwed me at the start of the year.
He also kept me in the top 250 overall in the last few rounds due to his dpp.
He plays in the right possy for a supercoach player yet I cant help think he could score so much better if he had more aerobic capacity. If he could cover the ground better I think he'd get a few more cheap possy's and with his contested possy's he could average 100+ pretty easily.
On the watch list.

 

[siwel]

It would hard to look past Danger this year at his starting price around 570k, Adelaide's soft draw I think that he is quite capable of getting back to a 115 ave..

He's someone I've been considering a lot lately, even if he's mid only. If you take out the games in the middle of the season (rounds 10-14, 16) where he was clearly hampered by some sort of injury, his average goes from 106 to 116. And with averages of 113 and 119 in the years previous, I think a lot of people are forgetting just how good an SC scorer he is when fully fit.

The only thing that I have in the back of my mind, is he can start a season slowly.
In 2014 he started: 107, 73, 99, 87 - ave 92 - and his price dropped $74k from it's opening quote.
In 2013 he started: 63, 107, 84, 120, 89 - ave 93 - and his price dropped $89k from it's opening quote.
In 2012 he started: 93, 92, 99 - ave 95 - and he averaged 119 for the season, or around 123 after those 3 games.
It's a pattern that suggests he can need a few games to hit stride. Having said that, I didn't get him until after the byes in 2014, but I will probably start him if he is M/F Again this season.

Isn't Danger going to be a restricted free agent at the end of 2015? During the year this could play on him mentally, if he has the intention to possibly leave. We have seen players struggle when under contract negotiations during the season before, could this happen to Danger next year?

Having said that, i would lock him in again if he's MID/FWD.

DANGERFIELD

I am a big fan of Danger, both the way he plays but also in SC. He is a no for me initially he is notoriously a slow starter and hemorrhages cash.
He has a new coach and is out of contract.
• I think this could pose 2 problems, as arguably the Crows most important player and with the way he plays he could well get managed by his new coach to ensure he gets a full season from him
• Since free agency we have seen the pressure that speculation can place on a player. He will be the biggest free agent of the year i think and this constant media speculation and pressure could hurt his on field performances.

He is still someone I am looking at but as an early upgrade, once he has dropped some cash and hopefully has committed to the Crows and playing a similar role to years previous

 

[yakka]

DANGERFIELD

I am a big fan of Danger, both the way he plays but also in SC. He is a no for me initially he is notoriously a slow starter and hemorrhages cash.
He has a new coach and is out of contract.
• I think this could pose 2 problems, as arguably the Crows most important player and with the way he plays he could well get managed by his new coach to ensure he gets a full season from him
• Since free agency we have seen the pressure that speculation can place on a player. He will be the biggest free agent of the year i think and this constant media speculation and pressure could hurt his on field performances.

He is still someone I am looking at but as an early upgrade, once he has dropped some cash and hopefully has committed to the Crows and playing a similar role to years previous

Yeah I was of the same opinion for your exact reasoning but then I checked last years start
2014 Supercoach Stats
Rnd. Price Scr
1 $609,000 107
2 $609,000 73
3 $609,000 99
4 $571,400 87
5 $534,600 192
6 $558,100 113
7 $582,700 120
8 $617,900 - -
9 $617,900 152
10 $626,300 97
11 $624,800 99
Not to shabby bar 2 games

 

[PC]

Sub par scores and -$70k for the first 4 games is not inspiring me

 

[siwel]

Sub par scores and -$70k for the first 4 games is not inspiring me

Yeah I was of the same opinion for your exact reasoning but then I checked last years start
2014 Supercoach Stats
Rnd. Price Scr
1 $609,000 107
2 $609,000 73
3 $609,000 99
4 $571,400 87
5 $534,600 192
6 $558,100 113
7 $582,700 120
8 $617,900 - -
9 $617,900 152
10 $626,300 97
11 $624,800 99
Not to shabby bar 2 games

I know it doesn't seem that bad but like PC said -70k in 4 games i think he is the perfect early upgrade target

Also if you put last years start along with this info from ROWSUS;
In 2013 he started: 63, 107, 84, 120, 89 - ave 93 - and his price dropped $89k from it's opening quote.
In 2012 he started: 93, 92, 99 - ave 95 - and he averaged 119 for the season, or around 123 after those 3 games.

He starts slowly and drops a lot of cash early. If all things go to plan he will be one of my first upgrades around rd 5

 

[kakarot]

Sub par scores and -$70k for the first 4 games is not inspiring me

I know it doesn't seem that bad but like PC said -70k in 4 games i think he is the perfect early upgrade target

Also if you put last years start along with this info from ROWSUS;
In 2013 he started: 63, 107, 84, 120, 89 - ave 93 - and his price dropped $89k from it's opening quote.
In 2012 he started: 93, 92, 99 - ave 95 - and he averaged 119 for the season, or around 123 after those 3 games.

He starts slowly and drops a lot of cash early. If all things go to plan he will be one of my first upgrades around rd 5

Clearly the argument is sound based off the past 2 years, but this year you'll have to take into consideration what price Dangerfield will be falling from.

To maintain his price he'll have to slightly outperform his price of a 105.6 average, much easier than the 118.9 of 2013 and 112.9 of 2014.

Provided he avoids the 63 like in Round 1 this year, he's likely to average high 90's even with a slow start. So he'll potentially drop 20k over the first couple of price changes.

If you like him it might be worth just starting him.

EDIT: Historically his averages are not very high against his first 3 opponents (North, Collingwood, Melbourne), but last year his scores against these teams were 91/101 (NM), 152/117 (CW) and 120 (MEL). His average at Adelaide Oval is very high though over 12 games (116), which are the NM and MEL games.

 

[PC]

My other two issues with starting Danger are - contract stuff and a new coach...

 

[Nk29]

I know it doesn't seem that bad but like PC said -70k in 4 games i think he is the perfect early upgrade target

Also if you put last years start along with this info from ROWSUS;
In 2013 he started: 63, 107, 84, 120, 89 - ave 93 - and his price dropped $89k from it's opening quote.
In 2012 he started: 93, 92, 99 - ave 95 - and he averaged 119 for the season, or around 123 after those 3 games.

He starts slowly and drops a lot of cash early. If all things go to plan he will be one of my first upgrades around rd 5

My question is how you will find the funds to get him in when he drops. Also if he doesn't do well in the early rounds it goes out of his 3rd average pretty quick. And if he then bangs out something huge a few rounds in you'll be kicking yourself.

 

[yakka]

Adelaide Crow Matt Crouch the early favourite to win the 2015 AFL Rising Star award
ANDREW CAPEL The Advertiser December 08, 2014 9:42AM SHARE

CROW Matt Crouch is tipped to go one better than his brother Brad and win the 2015 AFL Rising Star award.

Matt has been installed as the early favourite for the AFL’s best young player award just over a year after older brother Brad finished runner-up in voting to Gold Coast’s Jaeger O’Meara for the 2013 title.

Matt, 19, played just eight games in his debut season for Adelaide this year to retain eligibility for next year’s award.

The left-footed midfielder from the North Ballarat under-18s averaged 16.5 disposals and 3.2 tackles in a promising debut season.

Crouch heads the Rising Star market at $6 with sportsbet.com.au ahead of this year’s high draft picks Angus Brayshaw and Christian Petracca ($8) from Melbourne and second-year key forwards Jesse Hogan (Melbourne) and Tom Boyd (Western Bulldogs), who are listed at $12.

Crouch — the player the Crows recruited with the draft pick (No. 23) they received from the Demons for Bernie Vince in 2013 — earned a Rising Star nomination in round five last season for his 28-disposal, 10-mark performance against GWS.

Adelaide head of football David Noble said the club is expecting a big second season from the midfield ball magnet.



“Matt will benefit from his first full pre-season with us so we are really excited at what he might be able to do next season,’’ Noble said.

 

[yakka]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-26/key-pies-back-in-training.

 

[yakka]

Matt Crouch possible Cash Cow

Smaller version of brother Brad who like his brother loves the physical side of the game. Not that blessed with pace, but showed glimpses of what he is capable of in 2014. Only managed to play 8 games in 2014 and 4 of them were sub affected games.Once the aerobics matches his natural ability the Crows will have another ball hogg to add to their arsenal.
Absolutely tore it up when playing in the 2's
Here is a summary of last season.



2014 Season
1 PM Continually won the ball. Put his hand up for debut. -
2 PM 28 touches to lead the way in midfield. -
3 Syd Came on early as the sub and showed enough to say there is a bright future. 5
4 StK Strong all-round game and gave excellent value. 6
5 GWS Subbed out after producing his best game for the club. 8
6 WB Solid worker in midfield and not afraid to provide a physical presence. 6
7 Melb Laid five tackles, had three inside-50s and a goal from his wing. 5
9 Coll Came on for the last 10 minutes as the sub. 1
10 SANFL Consistent contributor across four quarters. -
11 SANFL Bye. -
12 SANFL Racked up 31 touches, equal game-high with brother Brad. -
13 NM Seven tackles on his return to the senior side. 4
14 SANFL Imperious midfield display, 35 touches, nine clearances. -
15 SANFL Bye. -
16 SANFL Grand virtuoso in tough loss. 42 disposals, 13 clearances. -
17 SANFL Tagged hard early but finished with 25 possessions and a goal. -
18 SANFL Team-high 28 possessions. Had his moments in big loss. -
19 SANFL Ball magnet in close. Racked up 38 possessions, seven clearances. -
20 SANFL Racked up 31 possessions and booted an important last-term goal. -
21 SANFL Surely close to an AFL berth. Racked up 35 touches, 13 clearances. -
22 SANFL Outstanding again with 38 disposals, 12 clearances, 10 inside 50s. -
23 StK Sub came on and kicked a goal.

 

[Deeman1]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-26/key-pies-back-in-training.

I'm interested in hearing more people's opinions on these two.

Brown is a definite 'no' for me games played record is poor and has not averaged more than 60 for last 6 years.

Reid depending on price is a 'probable' (providing he gets through preseason and is right for Rd 1). His games record prior to last year was actually quite good, and has averaged 79 over 24 games in 2011 and 81 over 22 games in 2013. He would probably need to be sub $200k to be viable and a def/fwd as in 2014.

 

[Deeman1]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-26/key-pies-back-in-training.

Does anyone know when Scharenberg is due back, he did is knee in August last year, so I would have thought that would mean 12 months.

But this article makes it sound a lot more positive than that???

 

[BC]

Lets say reid is fit come round 1. For sub 200k your getting a player who's job security is 100% solid. Definantly in the best 22 and baring injury will play every game.
No doubt will play fwd from time to time so you will be able to loophole the odd 100 in defence.
total lock all depending on his fitness.
Pretty sure ill be having belchambers as r3 which means a floating donut in defence will probably happen for me so I can loophole reid (or another inconsistant mid price defender) week in week out. My d6 will obviously be from a team that plays mostly sunday games.
Question:
Whats the max number acceptable of non playing players (for loopeholing.) Atm im gonna have 2. D6 and R4.
Is having a mid/fwd as a 3rd option too many?
That would basically give me a loophole option on every line BUT is it reducing the amount of cash my bench is making too much when it comes to upgrade time?

LOVE THIS TIME OF YEAR HAHA

 

[Jurn Stern]

Question:
Whats the max number acceptable of non playing players (for loopeholing.) Atm im gonna have 2. D6 and R4.
Is having a mid/fwd as a 3rd option too many?
That would basically give me a loophole option on every line BUT is it reducing the amount of cash my bench is making too much when it comes to upgrade time?

I would think that 3 would be too many. Most people can't make too much money from D8 or R4, and those are the two most common loopholing positions. It is good if you can find a r/f for loopholing rucks and forwards, and a d/m for loopholing defenders and midfielders. Cain Hanley looks to be a good option if he is DPP d/m.

I'm always torn at whether to rock 2 or 1, but I think you'll find 3 is giving up too much cash.

 

[yakka]

Like the different loop hole scenario,covering all lines may be a benifet come bye rounds.

 

[BC]

I would think that 3 would be too many. Most people can't make too much money from D8 or R4, and those are the two most common loopholing positions. It is good if you can find a r/f for loopholing rucks and forwards, and a d/m for loopholing defenders and midfielders. Cain Hanley looks to be a good option if he is DPP d/m.

I'm always torn at whether to rock 2 or 1, but I think you'll find 3 is giving up too much cash.

Was meant to be d8 not d6. *typo
Cheers for your insite

 

[siwel]

Question:
Whats the max number acceptable of non playing players (for loopeholing.) Atm im gonna have 2. D6 and R4.
Is having a mid/fwd as a 3rd option too many?
That would basically give me a loophole option on every line BUT is it reducing the amount of cash my bench is making too much when it comes to upgrade time?

LOVE THIS TIME OF YEAR HAHA

Utilising a loophole is great but you also need to be making $$$ esp early in the SC season. 3 is way to many for me, the R4 is fine and D8 is an iffy one. If there are rookies playing i would prefer to go with someone who could make me 50k-120k then be concerned with loopholing. I prefer to have loophole options to the end of the season rather than the start