Position 2021: Ruck Discussion
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I don't see it that way at all, basically de-risked the picks.
The only real options at this point were Preuss and/or Marshall in place of Gawn and Grundy, both of which made good sense as picks. Now those who want to be contrarian are going fishing for options.
So basically the two best options at this point are now gone, which means more people are forced to either pick Grawndy which de-risks or take bigger risks to take them on which just widens the margin for error and essentially de-risks them further. Preuss vs a rookie elsewhere is not as big a risk compared to ROB vs Gawn/Grundy as a starting pick or a rookie like Treacy/Flynn on field with Mumford, Darcy and Lobb all lurking behind.
Preuss is picked independent of Grawndy, ROB is picked instead of one of them, that distinction is big. As someone with Grundy and Gawn I'm very happy with anyone who is backing any other premium to beat them. I might be wrong but going into the season I really like that equation.
The only real options at this point were Preuss and/or Marshall in place of Gawn and Grundy, both of which made good sense as picks. Now those who want to be contrarian are going fishing for options.
So basically the two best options at this point are now gone, which means more people are forced to either pick Grawndy which de-risks or take bigger risks to take them on which just widens the margin for error and essentially de-risks them further. Preuss vs a rookie elsewhere is not as big a risk compared to ROB vs Gawn/Grundy as a starting pick or a rookie like Treacy/Flynn on field with Mumford, Darcy and Lobb all lurking behind.
Preuss is picked independent of Grawndy, ROB is picked instead of one of them, that distinction is big. As someone with Grundy and Gawn I'm very happy with anyone who is backing any other premium to beat them. I might be wrong but going into the season I really like that equation.
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That doesn't look too bad for the record, especially in comparison to St Kilda a Cat B rookie and a 27 year old ex-Cat A rookie who didn't make it with the Crows (neither player has made an appearance at AFL level).
Anyway St Kilda might be a bit of a "watch this space" situation in terms of their ruck selections, as I don't think anyone is expecting Paddy to ruck 90+% of game time each week (or at least not for long).
Anyway St Kilda might be a bit of a "watch this space" situation in terms of their ruck selections, as I don't think anyone is expecting Paddy to ruck 90+% of game time each week (or at least not for long).
I doubt Cameron + Cox + Lynch would even come close to equalling Ryder.
Often wondered what sort of tap ruckman Cox would actually make given the opportunity , probably would get outworked bodywise and not even be able to contest the tap around the ground.
McKernan is F only but might be worth monitoring if something happens to Ryder.
Often wondered what sort of tap ruckman Cox would actually make given the opportunity , probably would get outworked bodywise and not even be able to contest the tap around the ground.
McKernan is F only but might be worth monitoring if something happens to Ryder.
Sydney might have the best ruck depth in the league... the drop off between our 1st ruck, be it Sinclair, Hickey, Amartey or McLean and Fox as the default 5th option is actually almost nothing, not because Fox as a total non-ruck is any good but because those 4 are all rubbish, to be fair to Amartey he is yet to prove that at AFL level but given he couldn't be Sinclair for a game that's a pretty terrible sign.
I never though I could miss an utterly mediocre ruckman like Naismith so much
I never though I could miss an utterly mediocre ruckman like Naismith so much
Sydney might have the best ruck depth in the league... the drop off between our 1st ruck, be it Sinclair, Hickey, Amartey or McLean and Fox as the default 5th option is actually almost nothing, not because Fox as a total non-ruck is any good but because those 4 are all rubbish, to be fair to Amartey he is yet to prove that at AFL level but given he couldn't be Sinclair for a game that's a pretty terrible sign.
I never though I could miss an utterly mediocre ruckman like Naismith so much
I never though I could miss an utterly mediocre ruckman like Naismith so much
What happened to Grassy ? was he delisted ?
Maybe Horse needs to try Heeney in the ruck.
I reckon Treacy will play with Taberner,Darcy and Sturt all every chance to not be in the side early, where we go for a loop could become very interesting, Flynn is bound to play it'll just be a matter of when Mumford cant carry a ruck division for 4 months anymore and it could be some very handy cash generation when it arises.
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I tend to agree with @Zim^zuM on this one. GG was a relatively more unique structure this year due to Gawn's price and the popularity of Preuss. The loss of Preuss will clearly result in more people switching to GG and adjusting elsewhere. Yes, that de-risks the likelihood of a Preuss overperform / GG underperform but it also levels the playing field. If you're backing yourself against the the non GG crowd, you just lost some of your point of difference.
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I'm talking about if Ryder breaks down obviously (Marshall was their back up plan), and he (Ryder) would have to be at more risk of picking up a niggle he were expected to carry the majority of load in the ruck from week-to-week.
What I was hinting at is that our backups behind Grundy aren't bad in the grand scheme of things where it seemed like you were potting them a little (my apologies if you weren't).
What I was hinting at is that our backups behind Grundy aren't bad in the grand scheme of things where it seemed like you were potting them a little (my apologies if you weren't).