Discussion 2021: Strategy, Team & Player Discussions
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Defense will be interesting, no clue what Doch we see, although it might be Teague coaching.
For now I like
Def: Lloyd, Laird (M), Ridley, Luko
Mid: Neale, Macrae, Oliver, Titch, Rowell, Dunkley (R)
R: Grundy, Gawn
F: Bolton
No idea who the forwards are, would like to go as cheap as possible and jump on as we figure it out. Starting Lynch, Ceglar and Devon this year didnt go well. Keeping an eye on Serong (if hes fwd), Anderson, C. Jones will be cheap. Will need to pay up a lot for rookies so willing to cut the quantity of premos rather than the quality.
For now I like
Def: Lloyd, Laird (M), Ridley, Luko
Mid: Neale, Macrae, Oliver, Titch, Rowell, Dunkley (R)
R: Grundy, Gawn
F: Bolton
No idea who the forwards are, would like to go as cheap as possible and jump on as we figure it out. Starting Lynch, Ceglar and Devon this year didnt go well. Keeping an eye on Serong (if hes fwd), Anderson, C. Jones will be cheap. Will need to pay up a lot for rookies so willing to cut the quantity of premos rather than the quality.
D: Houli, Scrimshaw (just you wait and see 
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M: Dunkley
R: Nic Nat, Grundy
F: Whitfield?
Never, never, fn never ever again list: TLJ, Devon Smith
Reminders from others, thanks: Yeo, Shiel
)M: Dunkley
R: Nic Nat, Grundy
F: Whitfield?
Never, never, fn never ever again list: TLJ, Devon Smith
Reminders from others, thanks: Yeo, Shiel
Sicily is obviously unusually good in that role, but from memory Scrimshaw was pretty handy from an intercept marks at state level (?) so he seems like a logical candidate.
Currently averaging 68, so I guess in a sense you’d hope he’s a bit dearer than that by season’s end, signaling that he’s a viable potential keeper next year? He’ll be a bit dear to be a cash cow I would think.
I think either could be decent picks, but it really depends on their prices. Most players’ prices will be based off their 2020 averages (I think it’s 2021 starting price = c. $5,450 x 2020 average for players who played around 7+ games), but for those with low game counts, sometimes there’s a further adjustment, typically downward.
In general terms, my suggestion would be to target players who fit into one of two categories:
- Guns: players with 1 or ideally more seasons being in the top echelon of scorers on their line (something like 110+ average for mids and rucks, 95-100+ for fwds and defs). Preferably these players would have a history of playing 20+ games a season (call it 15+ this year, given it’s shortened). These players form a solid base around which you build your top quality finished side - so you want to start with at least 8, preferably more like 10 players, that you’d pick in your preferred side if money was no object.
- Rookies/potential cash cows: those who will play games early in the year and significantly outscore what they are priced at (I would suggest at least 30 points per game above starting price / $5,450 - so for a 124k rookie you are looking at an average of 53+). These players then experience meaningful price rises early in the year, and you use them to fund your upgrades later into the season, getting more of the top quality players mentioned above.
Personally I would suggest limiting yourself to 2 or maybe 3 players who don’t fit within these categories.
This reduces risk for someone who is learning the strategy of the game, and a lot of the best and most consistent top coaches do something similar in any case. I continue to push down this path based on my experience in wavering from it (not so good!) and observation of what the consistent top coaches most commonly do.
On waiting a week for Rowell/Kelly to prove their fitness, pre season is really the time to judge this. Sideways trades should generally be avoided, which also means trying to not pick players who need to be sideways traded in the first place.
Some people essentially rule out anyone priced between the #1 rookie (c. $210k) and about $400k, and you could do a lot worse than applying that rule in probably 98% of cases.
In general terms, my suggestion would be to target players who fit into one of two categories:
- Guns: players with 1 or ideally more seasons being in the top echelon of scorers on their line (something like 110+ average for mids and rucks, 95-100+ for fwds and defs). Preferably these players would have a history of playing 20+ games a season (call it 15+ this year, given it’s shortened). These players form a solid base around which you build your top quality finished side - so you want to start with at least 8, preferably more like 10 players, that you’d pick in your preferred side if money was no object.
- Rookies/potential cash cows: those who will play games early in the year and significantly outscore what they are priced at (I would suggest at least 30 points per game above starting price / $5,450 - so for a 124k rookie you are looking at an average of 53+). These players then experience meaningful price rises early in the year, and you use them to fund your upgrades later into the season, getting more of the top quality players mentioned above.
Personally I would suggest limiting yourself to 2 or maybe 3 players who don’t fit within these categories.
This reduces risk for someone who is learning the strategy of the game, and a lot of the best and most consistent top coaches do something similar in any case. I continue to push down this path based on my experience in wavering from it (not so good!) and observation of what the consistent top coaches most commonly do.
On waiting a week for Rowell/Kelly to prove their fitness, pre season is really the time to judge this. Sideways trades should generally be avoided, which also means trying to not pick players who need to be sideways traded in the first place.
Some people essentially rule out anyone priced between the #1 rookie (c. $210k) and about $400k, and you could do a lot worse than applying that rule in probably 98% of cases.
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Shai Bolton hey? Fill me in
How much do you reckon Buddy will be next season, could be in the $200k range? Worth a punt at that price, starts the season with a bang, gets injured, trade him out for a fallen fwd premo.
Don't put a line through Setters either as a cheapish mid option, has shown glimpses this season of turning into a really good midfielder.
Don't put a line through Setters either as a cheapish mid option, has shown glimpses this season of turning into a really good midfielder.
Curiousity got the better of me 😀
As suspected , the Alphabet 5 + Gawn & Grundy will cost the best part of $ 5 million (based on averages at the end of Round 12 and using MN of 5430)
Lloyd $ 653,229.00
Macrae $ 685, 809.00
Neale $ 792,237.00
Oliver $ 701,556.00
Petracca $ 667,347.00
Gawn $ 766,173.00
Grundy $ 682,551.00
= $ 4,948,902.00
Add a $ 1 million for the bench
Leaves $ 4 million for the remaining 15 players.
As suspected , the Alphabet 5 + Gawn & Grundy will cost the best part of $ 5 million (based on averages at the end of Round 12 and using MN of 5430)
Lloyd $ 653,229.00
Macrae $ 685, 809.00
Neale $ 792,237.00
Oliver $ 701,556.00
Petracca $ 667,347.00
Gawn $ 766,173.00
Grundy $ 682,551.00
= $ 4,948,902.00
Add a $ 1 million for the bench
Leaves $ 4 million for the remaining 15 players.
