Discussion 2021: Strategy, Team & Player Discussions

[Goodie's Guns]

Starting to get some more midfield time now for Richmond and is looking like a very accomplished and classy player with clean disposal and can kick goals. Probably doesn't have the tank yet to run out a full four quarters playing predominantly in the midfield but this should improve.

Have Bolton myself in a keeper league and have been weekly checking the AFL player ratings page on twitter to see if he's still holding onto his FWD eligibility. At the moment he is classified as a MID/FWD. With five rounds still to come I'll be hoping he just does enough to keep that FWD eligibility. If he does hold it, he'll need to be seriously considered in normal, particularly if he keeps getting significant midfield minutes throughout the finals or 2021 preseason when all the big guns are there in Cotchin, Prestia, Martin, etc.

 

[Mudflap]

LDU is my biggest watch for pre season. I he stays uninjured he is in my team

 

[Leroy]

As much as it fun to nail those breakout picks I find picking the super-premos that will go 110+ (usually mids) just as difficult, but goes just as far to giving you a good season.
Usual structure has 4-5 of these players: this year you wanted Neale, Macrae, Oliver, Lyons, Steele as those 5. Adams, Bont, Mitchell, and Danger (almost) would pass in place of Lyons and Steele as well.

Imagine having 5 mids going 110+ and playing almost every game that you started? I think the most I've ever got is maybe 4 . Who will it be in 2021?

I think most of us would say Macrae, Neale, Oliver and Mitchell as most likely. Throw a blanket over the next range down (Bont, Danger, Fyfe - gets injured, Treloar - twang go the hammies, Josh Kelly etc.). Problem is, how much cash do you pay for the pleasure of certainty given those top guys + Gawn and Grundy will cost half your salary?

 

[WindyHillWizard]

As much as it fun to nail those breakout picks I find picking the super-premos that will go 110+ (usually mids) just as difficult, but goes just as far to giving you a good season.
Usual structure has 4-5 of these players: this year you wanted Neale, Macrae, Oliver, Lyons, Steele as those 5. Adams, Bont, Mitchell, and Danger (almost) would pass in place of Lyons and Steele as well.

Imagine having 5 mids going 110+ and playing almost every game that you started? I think the most I've ever got is maybe 4 . Who will it be in 2021?

I think most of us would say Macrae, Neale, Oliver and Mitchell as most likely. Throw a blanket over the next range down (Bont, Danger, Fyfe - gets injured, Treloar - twang go the hammies, Josh Kelly etc.). Problem is, how much cash do you pay for the pleasure of certainty given those top guys + Gawn and Grundy will cost half your salary?

You could throw Petracca into that mix also. Averaging 122.9 prior to this weekend. Could we trust him to keep this average up next year? Almost certain to be a mid-only too so many will over-look him.

 

[randomcliche]

Starting to get some more midfield time now for Richmond and is looking like a very accomplished and classy player with clean disposal and can kick goals. Probably doesn't have the tank yet to run out a full four quarters playing predominantly in the midfield but this should improve.

Thank you, will watch closely.

 

[randomcliche]

I was wondering who benefits from Sicily being out, and Scrimshaw’s name seemed to be mentioned.

Sicily is obviously unusually good in that role, but from memory Scrimshaw was pretty handy from an intercept marks at state level (?) so he seems like a logical candidate.

Currently averaging 68, so I guess in a sense you’d hope he’s a bit dearer than that by season’s end, signaling that he’s a viable potential keeper next year? He’ll be a bit dear to be a cash cow I would think.

Yep, the season is 2/3rds done, so I'll get a look at him in his new role (his season top score of 91 on the w/d) and have only 2/3rd's of the value uplift from the position change priced in.

 

[PC]

You could throw Petracca into that mix also. Averaging 122.9 prior to this weekend. Could we trust him to keep this average up next year? Almost certain to be a mid-only too so many will over-look him.

The classic mid prem 'breakout' that moves from dpp to a solid/elite mid prem. Macrae from a couple of years ago is a great example of why you shouldn't ignore these players. Simpkin could be another.

 

[Blaze]

LDU is my biggest watch for pre season. I he stays uninjured he is in my team

Yep - I don't think we will be able to keep this one under wraps. I expect he will be one of the buzz mid pricers of 2021.

I watched his game last week ( i think last week) and he just looks ready to explode. That an opportunity in the north mids and the stars are aligning.

 

[Mudflap]

Yep - I don't think we will be able to keep this one under wraps. I expect he will be one of the buzz mid pricers of 2021.

I watched his game last week ( i think last week) and he just looks ready to explode. That an opportunity in the north mids and the stars are aligning.

I had him in all my team planners this season. Was shattered when he was injured pre season. Hoping he is priced around 450k which will turn some coaches off

 

[Nathan]

The classic mid prem 'breakout' that moves from dpp to a solid/elite mid prem. Macrae from a couple of years ago is a great example of why you shouldn't ignore these players. Simpkin could be another.

Simpkin the better example of the overlooked player losing DPP. Hard to get hurt by Petracca priced 115-120.

Without looking I feel all those players Parker/Merrett/Dusty from the past were around the 100av before becoming MID only.

 

[THCLT]

Simpkin the better example of the overlooked player losing DPP. Hard to get hurt by Petracca priced 115-120.

Without looking I feel all those players Parker/Merrett/Dusty from the past were around the 100av before becoming MID only.

Dusty M/F 2016 averaged 108.1
2017 MID - 119.6
2018 MID - 103.9
Parker M/F 2014 averaged 108.5
2015 MID - 99.7
2016 MID - 111.9
Zerrett M/F 2016 averaged 111.5
2017 MID - 109.2
2016 MID - 100.4

Of the 3, Dusty was the only one to improve on his M/F average once he became MID only. Parker regressed quite significantly.

 

[THCLT]

While I'm at it, others to have MID only after being M/F includes...
Bont 103.3 to 107.7 & 105.1
Danger 105.6 to 119.9 & 131.8
RGray 110.4 to 108.1 & 91.5
Fyfe 93.2 to 106.5 & 122.3
Zorko 109.0 to 110.7 & 95.8

 

[Herbie66]

2 x $ 700,000.00
10 x $ 200,000.00
8 x $ 125,000.00 (Bench)

will be my starting template , so leaves $ 5.6 million for 10 players

D: Lloyd
M: 3 from Macrae , Mitchell , Neale , Oliver
R: English (?)
F: Heeney

Lukosius , Bowes definitely on the watch list.
Does Houli retire ? means Short is locked.
Newman & Milera could be enticing with discounts.

LDU , Tarryn Thomas

won't be going on the TJL ride again , keen to see Buddy , Curnow & Joey's price and preseason though

depends on Round 1 rookies

 

[Nathan]

Of the top-top priced guys I’d take 2.

Macrae (Its a gift he plays alongside Bont) and a ruckman.

-I like Berry as fun pick. With Neale beside him he should be free to do what he wants.
-Stewart LOCK

 

[Leroy]

It's hardly going to stay a secret, so may as well post his name first and get all the likes .

Can't believe we're 3 pages in and everyone has missed Patrick Cripps (myself included). If he doesn't explode in the last few weeks he'll be well under 600k - if you're looking for that cheaper M5 he will be hard to go past right?

 

[Seymour Skinner]

I'll be keeping watch on Luke McDonald, don't watch north enough to know for sure what's clicked for him, but his numbers for the last 5 weeks have been awesome after a horrible start.

Heeney a very obvious one, and Marshall if he ends up with R/F status.
If he did get DPP I'd probably start him at R2 and pray that one of the big dog rucks drop in price.

 

[WindyHillWizard]

It's hardly going to stay a secret, so may as well post his name first and get all the likes .

Can't believe we're 3 pages in and everyone has missed Patrick Cripps (myself included). If he doesn't explode in the last few weeks he'll be well under 600k - if you're looking for that cheaper M5 he will be hard to go past right?

Agree that he seems to be well-priced but when will he have that 120+ breakout year?

I guess with Carlton improving he should benefit, but I would have thought that would have happened this year, especially with the shortened quarters. No where near a lock for me.

 

[Seymour Skinner]

And of course the North trio of Cunnington, Ziebell and Brown.
All been dogged by injury, all should cop discounts, Ziebell and Brown both had significantly lower averages this year and could be decent cash cows while Cunnington is a possible keeper.

 

[Herbie66]

And of course the North trio of Cunnington, Ziebell and Brown.
All been dogged by injury, all should cop discounts, Ziebell and Brown both had significantly lower averages this year and could be decent cash cows while Cunnington is a possible keeper.

may have just revealed 2 absolute gems 😀

 

[Connoisseur]

may have just revealed 2 absolute gems 😀

J Ziebell and B Brown yes.

No interest whatsoever in B Cunnington.