Position 2022: Defender Discussion

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Docherty V Lloyd?

Everyone dead set on Docherty?

Highest ranked defender v's 39th ranked defender ( probably not fair having missed a game, but ranked 22nd on ave.)

Really depends on whether it's your last def upgrade, who the rest of the def are and how you spend the 75k in price difference.

 

[Herbie66]

McCartin $ 290,800.00
Rampe $ 268,700.00

 

[Darkie]

Docherty V Lloyd?

Everyone dead set on Docherty?

Possibly biased as a keeper league Doc owner, but I am mindful that Carlton seem to be accumulating a lot of disposals. Unless you have a fitness concern, I don’t see a lot of headwinds for Doc.

Lloyd is SC royalty and the type I would be piling into in years gone by, but I’ve seen a few comments that make me wonder if he’ll get back to that level. His ceiling this season has also been pretty low (his second highest score is 105 … the sixth best defender is averaging 112) and his floor seems to have reduced as well (three scores 84 or below). Personally I’d want to see at least one more really good score (115+), or an identifiable role change, to feel confident. Even if you waited for a month of 110 type scores, he’d only be c. 50k dearer. If not for the urgency of upgrade season, I think that would be a modest price to pay for the extra information/reduced risk.

 

[Darkie]

McCartin $ 290,800.00
Rampe $ 268,700.00

I heard a comment yesterday about McCartin “freeing up” Rampe from having to play taller than he is. It doesn’t seem to have helped him in SC terms.

 

[Herbie66]

I heard a comment yesterday about McCartin “freeing up” Rampe from having to play taller than he is. It doesn’t seem to have helped him in SC terms.

Good information.

Massive drop off , last 8 seasons all 76+ including 2 over 90+.

Might track him and see if his scores improve at all

 

[lappinitup]

Possibly biased as a keeper league Doc owner, but I am mindful that Carlton seem to be accumulating a lot of disposals. Unless you have a fitness concern, I don’t see a lot of headwinds for Doc.

Lloyd is SC royalty and the type I would be piling into in years gone by, but I’ve seen a few comments that make me wonder if he’ll get back to that level. His ceiling this season has also been pretty low (his second highest score is 105 … the sixth best defender is averaging 112) and his floor seems to have reduced as well (three scores 84 or below). Personally I’d want to see at least one more really good score (115+), or an identifiable role change, to feel confident. Even if you waited for a month of 110 type scores, he’d only be c. 50k dearer. If not for the urgency of upgrade season, I think that would be a modest price to pay for the extra information/reduced risk.

I had tired to convince myself on going Lloyd as a POD, however the failed Tom Mitchell experiment few weeks ago has me coming back to Doch.

Doch is also often down the chain in defensive forwards plans, many would rather stop the run and carry of Saad and Williams to the marking and kicking of Doch. So it really does become a fitness issue! If Plowman does come back in, think that only helps free up Docherty as he really is in the team for lockdown only as opposed to a Newman type who uses the ball.

 

[freowho]

Docherty is such a good player, not just a good supercoacher. Love watching him play. But can't help thinking he misses games.

 

[Gruffles]

Docherty is such a good player, not just a good supercoacher. Love watching him play. But can't help thinking he misses games.

I was thinking he would fade as time goes on, might be wrong but coming back from the things he has can't be easy on the body.

 

[Zimmer]

I had tired to convince myself on going Lloyd as a POD, however the failed Tom Mitchell experiment few weeks ago has me coming back to Doch.

Seem to have dodged a bullet there. Even against the worst performance you could imagine, he only junked it up to 98. I guess the ball didn't get down there that much, but when it did he's not not the single go to man anymore for Sydney.