Discussion 2022: Rate My Team

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I don’t see the SC appeal in Budarick and CCJ at all mate … sorry

Coleman at D5 over Budarick I think would be much better.
Appreciate the advice. I'm a bit limited for cash down back, so went Budarick, did an acl last year, but shows promise running the ball out of defence. CCJ appeals as a foil for Larkey or vice versa, also giving Goldy a chopout in the ruck. I can see improvement in his scoring with more game time when compared to his time at Richmond. Norths improved midfield, now with JHF could see some nice delivery to him. I'm not sure Coleman will be the consistent performer or breakout candidate. Rayner back with Nakia. I've heard he's played at half back too. Personally I think his frame isn't there yet to play that role. Answerth and Starcevich are my picks to continue in the backline after Birchall's retirement. Maybe a Brisbane supporter could enlighten us on any possible changes.
 
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Good question.

My top 8:
Dunkley
Duncan
Taranto
Dusty
JDG
Heeney
Butters
TT

For me; Dunkley is F1 by miles. Duncan with a favourable role could be very decent. Taranto once back in the midfield could be 100+, but I'm not entirely bothered by not having them if everyone else can go 95+, which is not beyond the realms of possibility.
 
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Good question.

My top 8:
Dunkley
Duncan
Taranto
Dusty
JDG
Heeney
Butters
TT
Wow , no new DPP additions at all.

I like Duncan , Dunkley , Hawkins , Martin & Taranto.

Bailey , Butters , de Goey , Heeney , Thomas possibly all similar.

As for the new DPP's wait and see I guess.

Could end up being no one exciting or another half a dozen surpassing most of the above.
 
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CCJ appeals as a foil for Larkey or vice versa, also giving Goldy a chopout in the ruck. I can see improvement in his scoring with more game time when compared to his time at Richmond. Norths improved midfield, now with JHF could see some nice delivery to him.
I do not see the attraction, unless he has improved his intensity to get to contests!
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Very interesting to see.

Locking in defence from the get go.l 🤔

Depending on who gains F status does any/all of Bailey , Butters , Heeney & Thomas still feature in the Top 6-8 forwards for the season ?
My personal projections at this point:

Below should be pretty clear but just in case...

Flawless season - Stays fit and has the best role for them, both these are huge factors for a lot of this list. For many of them, this is a very unrealistic outcome, for some it is not.
Expectation - Given the above this is basically a durability/role check.
Floor - Role/body fails them type scoring. Note this doesn't factor a season ending injury where you'd trade them but for some of these guys, that should be on the table.

Player - Flawless Season / Expectation / Floor

Dunkley - 120+ / 98-108 / 88 - Role & durability both are issues
Duncan - ~110 / 97-107 / 93 - Durability has been an issue, scores well in all roles but floats between better/worse ones
Taranto - ~110 / 82-98 / 82 - Role is a huge factor here
Hawkins - ~105 / 85-95 / 80 - Known quantity but expect more teammate impact this year
Stringer - 110+ / 85-105 / 70s - Role is a big question but he's enigmatic well beyond that, happy to react rather than start him
Martin - ~115 / 95-105 / 90 - Safe type, perfect role can score better but would be unexpected at this point
Wingard - ~110 / 85-100 / 78 - Role/durability major issues and scoring varies massively on both of those.
Greene - 130+ / 88-98 / 84 - He's not getting the flawless role but if he did, get him.
Dixon - Injured but just use his last 3 seasons and knock 10-20% of this worst season for the no preseason factor as the floor :LOL:
McEvoy - ~105 / 80-95 / 75 - Sole ruck not likely, solid 2nd ruck scorer.
Treloar - ~115 / 90-105 / 85 - Durability a huge issue, don't expect that top role this year but hard to know how close he gets to it, also the durability is a major factor in last years average so even without the top role, he gets closer to the high end of his range if he stays fit.
English - ~110 / 80-95 / 85 - Depends on ruck time/share.
Sidebottom - ~105 / 85-95 / 80 - No idea on role but he scores in most.
Walker - Suspended, irrelevant, surely?
TMac - ~100 / 75-95 / 60 - Way too much can go wrong here based on his last 4 seasons.
De Goey - 115 / 80-110 / 80 - Durability and no idea on his role, hopefully that range will tighten considerably.
Buddy - Misses too many games, don't!
Bailey - ~110 / 80-95 / 80 - Would take injuries for him to get the role this year, imo.
Thomas - ~110 / 94-110 / 80 - I'm hoping to tighten this range also with more role/physique certainty.
Bolton - ~105 / 82-95 / 80 - Role questions again here, midfield I think he can score very well.
Graham - ~110 / 85-105 / 80 - I'm expecting him to make a full time midfield move this year but he might not, hence huge range.
Gray - Nope
Heeney - ~120 / 85-110 / 84 - Durability is the biggest concern, role is secondary. He's got the talent to be anything in the midfield in a pure role, expecting a more peripheral 4th mid/wing type role, should kick more goals from midfield like most elite midfielders that can play forward do (Martin, Bont and Petracca for example). If he stays relatively fit I think he's in the 95-110 range but him staying fit is enough of an issue to drop the range to factor that in.
Butters - ~110 / 82-110 / 82 - Have no feel on his role yet, hence huge range but pretty confident he improves on last year.
McKay - ~105 / 85-95 / 75 - Actually expecting big things from him this year.
Gulden - ~105 / 82-92 / 80 - Role will be huge here but a midfield role would make him very interesting.

"Likely" position change guys:

Fyfe - ~125 / 90-110 / 90 - No idea on role/fitness right now.
Zorko - ~115 / 90-110 / 90 - The more likely he is to get forward, the lower on that range he goes.
Boak - ~110 / 90-105 / 90 - Same as Zorko, someone has to share time with Rozee/Butters, he makes the most sense.
Danger - ~125 / 95-120 / 95 - Haven't actually heard anything on his fitness, if it's bad that low end probably drops to 90, again, lower range is the more likely he's a forward.
Greenwood - ~105 / 80-95 / 80 - I'm expecting he plays forward mostly for NM, which puts him in the middle of that range, full time forward is the low end. Durability also could be an issue.
Yeo - ~110 / 85-105 / 85 - Apparently already in doubt for round one, could be a guy who starts forward as he eases back and becomes a very viable pick in the round 12 position changes if that happens and he looks good.
Cripps - ~125 / 80 - 120 / 80 - Genuinely clueless here but he's absolutely on the lower end of the range if he gets forward.
Billings - ~115 / 80 - 95 / 80 - He's not getting that top role it would seem (inside mid) and the more likely he is to get forward the closer to that 80 he gets.
Marshall - ~115 / 95-110 / 90 - Another who the lower he goes on that range, the more likely he gets FWD, also one who is very dependent on the health of another player as well as his own shaky durability.
 
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This feels absolutely mad... and yet.

Can ignore the rookies for the most part, obviously.
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It's actually eerily similar to my current structure! Basically I went Lloyd/Hall and speculated on the forwards instead of the backs and turned the Rioli/Hewett pair into a GnR instead.

I think I'll end up down to the 4 premium mids like you though in reality.
 
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My personal projections at this point:

Below should be pretty clear but just in case...

Flawless season - Stays fit and has the best role for them, both these are huge factors for a lot of this list. For many of them, this is a very unrealistic outcome, for some it is not.
Expectation - Given the above this is basically a durability/role check.
Floor - Role/body fails them type scoring. Note this doesn't factor a season ending injury where you'd trade them but for some of these guys, that should be on the table.

Player - Flawless Season / Expectation / Floor

Dunkley - 120+ / 98-108 / 88 - Role & durability both are issues
Duncan - ~110 / 97-107 / 93 - Durability has been an issue, scores well in all roles but floats between better/worse ones
Taranto - ~110 / 82-98 / 82 - Role is a huge factor here
Hawkins - ~105 / 85-95 / 80 - Known quantity but expect more teammate impact this year
Stringer - 110+ / 85-105 / 70s - Role is a big question but he's enigmatic well beyond that, happy to react rather than start him
Martin - ~115 / 95-105 / 90 - Safe type, perfect role can score better but would be unexpected at this point
Wingard - ~110 / 85-100 / 78 - Role/durability major issues and scoring varies massively on both of those.
Greene - 130+ / 88-98 / 84 - He's not getting the flawless role but if he did, get him.
Dixon - Injured but just use his last 3 seasons and knock 10-20% of this worst season for the no preseason factor as the floor :LOL:
McEvoy - ~105 / 80-95 / 75 - Sole ruck not likely, solid 2nd ruck scorer.
Treloar - ~115 / 90-105 / 85 - Durability a huge issue, don't expect that top role this year but hard to know how close he gets to it, also the durability is a major factor in last years average so even without the top role, he gets closer to the high end of his range if he stays fit.
English - ~110 / 80-95 / 85 - Depends on ruck time/share.
Sidebottom - ~105 / 85-95 / 80 - No idea on role but he scores in most.
Walker - Suspended, irrelevant, surely?
TMac - ~100 / 75-95 / 60 - Way too much can go wrong here based on his last 4 seasons.
De Goey - 115 / 80-110 / 80 - Durability and no idea on his role, hopefully that range will tighten considerably.
Buddy - Misses too many games, don't!
Bailey - ~110 / 80-95 / 80 - Would take injuries for him to get the role this year, imo.
Thomas - ~110 / 94-110 / 80 - I'm hoping to tighten this range also with more role/physique certainty.
Bolton - ~105 / 82-95 / 80 - Role questions again here, midfield I think he can score very well.
Graham - ~110 / 85-105 / 80 - I'm expecting him to make a full time midfield move this year but he might not, hence huge range.
Gray - Nope
Heeney - ~120 / 85-110 / 84 - Durability is the biggest concern, role is secondary. He's got the talent to be anything in the midfield in a pure role, expecting a more peripheral 4th mid/wing type role, should kick more goals from midfield like most elite midfielders that can play forward do (Martin, Bont and Petracca for example). If he stays relatively fit I think he's in the 95-110 range but him staying fit is enough of an issue to drop the range to factor that in.
Butters - ~110 / 82-110 / 82 - Have no feel on his role yet, hence huge range but pretty confident he improves on last year.
McKay - ~105 / 85-95 / 75 - Actually expecting big things from him this year.
Gulden - ~105 / 82-92 / 80 - Role will be huge here but a midfield role would make him very interesting.

"Likely" position change guys:

Fyfe - ~125 / 90-110 / 90 - No idea on role/fitness right now.
Zorko - ~115 / 90-110 / 90 - The more likely he is to get forward, the lower on that range he goes.
Boak - ~110 / 90-105 / 90 - Same as Zorko, someone has to share time with Rozee/Butters, he makes the most sense.
Danger - ~125 / 95-120 / 95 - Haven't actually heard anything on his fitness, if it's bad that low end probably drops to 90, again, lower range is the more likely he's a forward.
Greenwood - ~105 / 80-95 / 80 - I'm expecting he plays forward mostly for NM, which puts him in the middle of that range, full time forward is the low end. Durability also could be an issue.
Yeo - ~110 / 85-105 / 85 - Apparently already in doubt for round one, could be a guy who starts forward as he eases back and becomes a very viable pick in the round 12 position changes if that happens and he looks good.
Cripps - ~125 / 80 - 120 / 80 - Genuinely clueless here but he's absolutely on the lower end of the range if he gets forward.
Billings - ~115 / 80 - 95 / 80 - He's not getting that top role it would seem (inside mid) and the more likely he is to get forward the closer to that 80 he gets.
Marshall - ~115 / 95-110 / 90 - Another who the lower he goes on that range, the more likely he gets FWD, also one who is very dependent on the health of another player as well as his own shaky durability.
Didn't get far though this list yet, but except for last year and 2015, Duncan has been pretty durable. In 8 of the 9 seasons from 2012 - 2020 he missed 5 games total. That's better than most players. Possibly some concerns after last season I guess.
 
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Don't know about this one at all, but I've tried to go for 'realistic' in terms of rookies. 3 premo mids, yikes!
I will happily drop down to cheaper rookies if they are playing and have decent JS, and the funds will turn Sicily back into a midfield premo.

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I’ve got the exact same structure. Really like it but I think you have to start macrae or Steele or it might be hard to get them lat
My personal projections at this point:

Below should be pretty clear but just in case...

Flawless season - Stays fit and has the best role for them, both these are huge factors for a lot of this list. For many of them, this is a very unrealistic outcome, for some it is not.
Expectation - Given the above this is basically a durability/role check.
Floor - Role/body fails them type scoring. Note this doesn't factor a season ending injury where you'd trade them but for some of these guys, that should be on the table.

Player - Flawless Season / Expectation / Floor

Dunkley - 120+ / 98-108 / 88 - Role & durability both are issues
Duncan - ~110 / 97-107 / 93 - Durability has been an issue, scores well in all roles but floats between better/worse ones
Taranto - ~110 / 82-98 / 82 - Role is a huge factor here
Hawkins - ~105 / 85-95 / 80 - Known quantity but expect more teammate impact this year
Stringer - 110+ / 85-105 / 70s - Role is a big question but he's enigmatic well beyond that, happy to react rather than start him
Martin - ~115 / 95-105 / 90 - Safe type, perfect role can score better but would be unexpected at this point
Wingard - ~110 / 85-100 / 78 - Role/durability major issues and scoring varies massively on both of those.
Greene - 130+ / 88-98 / 84 - He's not getting the flawless role but if he did, get him.
Dixon - Injured but just use his last 3 seasons and knock 10-20% of this worst season for the no preseason factor as the floor :LOL:
McEvoy - ~105 / 80-95 / 75 - Sole ruck not likely, solid 2nd ruck scorer.
Treloar - ~115 / 90-105 / 85 - Durability a huge issue, don't expect that top role this year but hard to know how close he gets to it, also the durability is a major factor in last years average so even without the top role, he gets closer to the high end of his range if he stays fit.
English - ~110 / 80-95 / 85 - Depends on ruck time/share.
Sidebottom - ~105 / 85-95 / 80 - No idea on role but he scores in most.
Walker - Suspended, irrelevant, surely?
TMac - ~100 / 75-95 / 60 - Way too much can go wrong here based on his last 4 seasons.
De Goey - 115 / 80-110 / 80 - Durability and no idea on his role, hopefully that range will tighten considerably.
Buddy - Misses too many games, don't!
Bailey - ~110 / 80-95 / 80 - Would take injuries for him to get the role this year, imo.
Thomas - ~110 / 94-110 / 80 - I'm hoping to tighten this range also with more role/physique certainty.
Bolton - ~105 / 82-95 / 80 - Role questions again here, midfield I think he can score very well.
Graham - ~110 / 85-105 / 80 - I'm expecting him to make a full time midfield move this year but he might not, hence huge range.
Gray - Nope
Heeney - ~120 / 85-110 / 84 - Durability is the biggest concern, role is secondary. He's got the talent to be anything in the midfield in a pure role, expecting a more peripheral 4th mid/wing type role, should kick more goals from midfield like most elite midfielders that can play forward do (Martin, Bont and Petracca for example). If he stays relatively fit I think he's in the 95-110 range but him staying fit is enough of an issue to drop the range to factor that in.
Butters - ~110 / 82-110 / 82 - Have no feel on his role yet, hence huge range but pretty confident he improves on last year.
McKay - ~105 / 85-95 / 75 - Actually expecting big things from him this year.
Gulden - ~105 / 82-92 / 80 - Role will be huge here but a midfield role would make him very interesting.

"Likely" position change guys:

Fyfe - ~125 / 90-110 / 90 - No idea on role/fitness right now.
Zorko - ~115 / 90-110 / 90 - The more likely he is to get forward, the lower on that range he goes.
Boak - ~110 / 90-105 / 90 - Same as Zorko, someone has to share time with Rozee/Butters, he makes the most sense.
Danger - ~125 / 95-120 / 95 - Haven't actually heard anything on his fitness, if it's bad that low end probably drops to 90, again, lower range is the more likely he's a forward.
Greenwood - ~105 / 80-95 / 80 - I'm expecting he plays forward mostly for NM, which puts him in the middle of that range, full time forward is the low end. Durability also could be an issue.
Yeo - ~110 / 85-105 / 85 - Apparently already in doubt for round one, could be a guy who starts forward as he eases back and becomes a very viable pick in the round 12 position changes if that happens and he looks good.
Cripps - ~125 / 80 - 120 / 80 - Genuinely clueless here but he's absolutely on the lower end of the range if he gets forward.
Billings - ~115 / 80 - 95 / 80 - He's not getting that top role it would seem (inside mid) and the more likely he is to get forward the closer to that 80 he gets.
Marshall - ~115 / 95-110 / 90 - Another who the lower he goes on that range, the more likely he gets FWD, also one who is very dependent on the health of another player as well as his own shaky durability.
They are some handy players to drop into the fwd line. You think it’s better just to start Dunkley/Duncan or Dunkley/heeney and midprices and wait for the dpp’s?
 
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I do not see the attraction, unless he has improved his intensity to get to contests!
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Thanks for providing that snippet. It doesn't show all the factors for his scoring, wonder what his TOG was? I see he had a month off injured between rounds 16 and 21. IIRC he may have come back too soon as his injury status was still questionable, but Richmond needed warm big bodies onfield due to injuries. An opportunity at a new club to establish yourself in the best 22 is another driver for selecting him, but, I too have no idea how he will perform. It's the risk I may be taking.

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Thanks for providing that snippet. It doesn't show all the factors for his scoring, wonder what his TOG was? I see he had a month off injured between rounds 16 and 21. IIRC he may have come back too soon as his injury status was still questionable, but Richmond needed warm big bodies onfield due to injuries. An opportunity at a new club to establish yourself in the best 22 is another driver for selecting him, but, I too have no idea how he will perform. It's the risk I may be taking.

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