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Heard Adam Simpson talking on ABC Perth radio this morning re jjk.
Basically said jjk is touch and go for round 1, and i got the impression he won't play rd1 ( that part is just my opinion).
The bit i really picked up on however was that, and will post a link if i find one, jjk will be rested and managed in a similar way to nicnat (he definitely stated that). He said he will have managed minutes in games and have rests during the year, assuming that means he will miss games.
Love the bloke, but zero chance he will make my side even if he smashes out some big scores.
Basically said jjk is touch and go for round 1, and i got the impression he won't play rd1 ( that part is just my opinion).
The bit i really picked up on however was that, and will post a link if i find one, jjk will be rested and managed in a similar way to nicnat (he definitely stated that). He said he will have managed minutes in games and have rests during the year, assuming that means he will miss games.
Love the bloke, but zero chance he will make my side even if he smashes out some big scores.
Oh no I am starting to get tempted to put Walters in my team. I really like him but why do I do this to myself! @Bomber18 some of those tables you put in the midfielders discussion had him looking mighty tempting with all the freo mids out. I just know he will get injured though. I might have to put him in my RDT to scratch the itch!
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Looking at the centre bounce attendance numbers in JLT I’m starting to consider Wallis at F3 over Dunkley/Kelly.
He attended a fair few more than Dunkley and has 4 consistent seasons around the 88-98 mark and seems fully over his prior injuries.
Rowsus brought him up as a player he has considered and had in the team at one point (not sure if he still does) but does anyone see a reason why Dunkley should be selected over him?
These are the Centre Bounce numbers for JLT.
He attended a fair few more than Dunkley and has 4 consistent seasons around the 88-98 mark and seems fully over his prior injuries.
Rowsus brought him up as a player he has considered and had in the team at one point (not sure if he still does) but does anyone see a reason why Dunkley should be selected over him?
These are the Centre Bounce numbers for JLT.
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J Dunkley:
Disposals: 21.89
SC Avg when disposals equal/exceed 22: 114.9 from 10 (low of 86 and a high of 157, 2/10 below 100, 3/10 120+)
SC Avg when disposals below 22: 73.11 from 9 (low of 40 and a high of 105, 8/9 below 100)
Contested Possessions: 8.11
SC Avg when contested possessions equal/exceed 9: 120.25 from 8 (low of 94 and a high of 157, 1/8 below 100, 3/8 120+)
SC Avg when contested possessions below 9: 76.82 from 11 (9/11 below 100)
Tackles: 5.95
SC Avg when tackles equal/exceed 6: 104.67 from 12 (low of 60 and a high of 157, 5/12 below 100, 3/12 120+)
SC Avg when tackles below 6: 78.71 from 7 (low of 40 and a high of 116, 5/7 below 100)
Time on Ground%: 81.47%
SC Avg when time on ground equals/exceeds 82%: 104 from 10 (low of 42 and a high of 157, 4/10 below 100, 3/10 120+)
SC Avg when time on ground below 82%: 85.22 from 9 (low of 40 and a high of 116, 6/9 below 100)
Disposal Efficiency: 70.7%
Contested Possession Rate: 37.11%
M Wallis:
Disposals: 21.39
SC Avg when disposals equal/exceed 22: 95.7 from 10 (low of 69 and a high of 116, 5/10 below 100)
SC Avg when disposals below 22: 87.13 from 8 (low of 77 and a high of 96)
Contested Possessions: 10.72
SC Avg when contested possessions equal/exceed 11: 90.88 from 8 (low of 69 and a high of 116, 6/8 below 100, 1/8 120+)
SC avg when contested possessions below 11: 92.7 from 10 (low of 77 and a high of 107, 7/10 below 100)
Tackles: 3.94
SC Avg when tackles equal/exceed 4: 90.7 from 10 (low of 77 and a high of 103, 8/10 below 100)
SC Avg when tackles below 4: 93.38 from 8 (low of 69 and a high of 116, 5/8 below 100)
Time on Ground: 81.22%
SC Avg when time on ground equals/exceeds 82%: 89.25 from 8 (low of 69 and a high of 107, 5/8 below 100)
SC Avg when time on ground below 82%: 94 from 10 (low of 79 and a high of 116, 8/10 below 100)
Disposal Efficiency: 73.25%
CPR: 48.49%
Far more upside with Dunkley and I don't rate Wallis as a pick due to his injury history, his penchant to handball rather than kick (since 2016 only 37.65% of his disposals have been kicks 384/1020) as well as not amassing enough of the ball to push a 95-105 avg.
Disposals: 21.89
SC Avg when disposals equal/exceed 22: 114.9 from 10 (low of 86 and a high of 157, 2/10 below 100, 3/10 120+)
SC Avg when disposals below 22: 73.11 from 9 (low of 40 and a high of 105, 8/9 below 100)
Contested Possessions: 8.11
SC Avg when contested possessions equal/exceed 9: 120.25 from 8 (low of 94 and a high of 157, 1/8 below 100, 3/8 120+)
SC Avg when contested possessions below 9: 76.82 from 11 (9/11 below 100)
Tackles: 5.95
SC Avg when tackles equal/exceed 6: 104.67 from 12 (low of 60 and a high of 157, 5/12 below 100, 3/12 120+)
SC Avg when tackles below 6: 78.71 from 7 (low of 40 and a high of 116, 5/7 below 100)
Time on Ground%: 81.47%
SC Avg when time on ground equals/exceeds 82%: 104 from 10 (low of 42 and a high of 157, 4/10 below 100, 3/10 120+)
SC Avg when time on ground below 82%: 85.22 from 9 (low of 40 and a high of 116, 6/9 below 100)
Disposal Efficiency: 70.7%
Contested Possession Rate: 37.11%
M Wallis:
Disposals: 21.39
SC Avg when disposals equal/exceed 22: 95.7 from 10 (low of 69 and a high of 116, 5/10 below 100)
SC Avg when disposals below 22: 87.13 from 8 (low of 77 and a high of 96)
Contested Possessions: 10.72
SC Avg when contested possessions equal/exceed 11: 90.88 from 8 (low of 69 and a high of 116, 6/8 below 100, 1/8 120+)
SC avg when contested possessions below 11: 92.7 from 10 (low of 77 and a high of 107, 7/10 below 100)
Tackles: 3.94
SC Avg when tackles equal/exceed 4: 90.7 from 10 (low of 77 and a high of 103, 8/10 below 100)
SC Avg when tackles below 4: 93.38 from 8 (low of 69 and a high of 116, 5/8 below 100)
Time on Ground: 81.22%
SC Avg when time on ground equals/exceeds 82%: 89.25 from 8 (low of 69 and a high of 107, 5/8 below 100)
SC Avg when time on ground below 82%: 94 from 10 (low of 79 and a high of 116, 8/10 below 100)
Disposal Efficiency: 73.25%
CPR: 48.49%
Far more upside with Dunkley and I don't rate Wallis as a pick due to his injury history, his penchant to handball rather than kick (since 2016 only 37.65% of his disposals have been kicks 384/1020) as well as not amassing enough of the ball to push a 95-105 avg.
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Maybe! Couple of comments which can be interpret different ways.
Stepping back, Libba in who is a pure mid, Dahl out, Smith in, McLean more forward.. Libba gets more mid time than Dahl, taking some of McLean. Bit like Geelong, nervous all mid/fwds are eroded by 5-10%.
Josh Dunkley aims to kick more goals, wants to reach ‘absolute extreme limits’ of potential
Western Bulldogs midfielder Josh Dunkley has set his sights on kicking more goals this season as he looks to reach the “absolute extreme limits” of his capabilities.
A 2016 premiership player, Dunkley kicked 11 goals from 19 games last year mixing his time between midfield and attack.
While he does not expect a significant change to that mix, the 22-year-old said he was determined to make himself a more dangerous option in the forward line, having “put on a fair bit of size” over the off-season.
“I think you’ll see a few of us midfielders get down forward a little bit because there is that versatility side of the game,” Dunkley said.
“I’ve always loved contested marking and things like that so to continue to improve that part of my game is to be able to continue to push forward, take marks and kick goals.”
Dunkley said while the Bulldogs’ forward line did not work as it would have liked in their first JLT Series match against Gold Coast on Sunday night he was confident it would have a new-and-improved look this year.
The Bulldogs ranked 15th for scores for last season, averaging just 71.6 points a game, and managed just 72 points in their five-point loss to the Suns in Mackay on Sunday.
“Avenues to goal and being able to score has been a big priority for us,” Dunkley said.
“We’ve looked at that pretty heavily and throughout the pre-season we’ve been really good at it. The conditions didn’t really help us up north but really looking forward to this week and seeing how we go.”
Dunkley and teammate Marcus Bontempelli travelled to the United States during their off-season break, spending a week at Nike headquarters in Portland and another week training with Olympic coach Dr Matt Kritz in San Diego.
“I think the States stuff was knowing the sky’s the limit,” Dunkley said when asked what he had learnt from the trip.
“Not knowing your boundaries and being able to push yourself to your absolute extreme limits. We really learnt that we thought we had it covered but we’re nowhere near it really. So to be able to go to that next level is pretty promising and exciting.”
The Bulldogs meet St Kilda in their second and final pre-season match at Ballarat’s MARS Stadium on Sunday
Stepping back, Libba in who is a pure mid, Dahl out, Smith in, McLean more forward.. Libba gets more mid time than Dahl, taking some of McLean. Bit like Geelong, nervous all mid/fwds are eroded by 5-10%.
Josh Dunkley aims to kick more goals, wants to reach ‘absolute extreme limits’ of potential
A 2016 premiership player, Dunkley kicked 11 goals from 19 games last year mixing his time between midfield and attack.
While he does not expect a significant change to that mix, the 22-year-old said he was determined to make himself a more dangerous option in the forward line, having “put on a fair bit of size” over the off-season.
“I think you’ll see a few of us midfielders get down forward a little bit because there is that versatility side of the game,” Dunkley said.
“I’ve always loved contested marking and things like that so to continue to improve that part of my game is to be able to continue to push forward, take marks and kick goals.”
Dunkley said while the Bulldogs’ forward line did not work as it would have liked in their first JLT Series match against Gold Coast on Sunday night he was confident it would have a new-and-improved look this year.
The Bulldogs ranked 15th for scores for last season, averaging just 71.6 points a game, and managed just 72 points in their five-point loss to the Suns in Mackay on Sunday.
“Avenues to goal and being able to score has been a big priority for us,” Dunkley said.
“We’ve looked at that pretty heavily and throughout the pre-season we’ve been really good at it. The conditions didn’t really help us up north but really looking forward to this week and seeing how we go.”
Dunkley and teammate Marcus Bontempelli travelled to the United States during their off-season break, spending a week at Nike headquarters in Portland and another week training with Olympic coach Dr Matt Kritz in San Diego.
“I think the States stuff was knowing the sky’s the limit,” Dunkley said when asked what he had learnt from the trip.
“Not knowing your boundaries and being able to push yourself to your absolute extreme limits. We really learnt that we thought we had it covered but we’re nowhere near it really. So to be able to go to that next level is pretty promising and exciting.”
The Bulldogs meet St Kilda in their second and final pre-season match at Ballarat’s MARS Stadium on Sunday
