If you believe the Bont will be a decent F4 or better from here, I'd go him over NvB. NvB raises cash, but if you believe the Bont is a Keeper, you need just that little bit less cash anyway. It all comes down to how highly you rate the Bont from here. If he's a top 4 Fwd, from Round 3 to Round 22, grab him now.
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Thanks Rowsus, I've decided to adopt your approach of I reckon it's too early to be conservative. At this stage of the season it's "go hard, or go home" 
With that in mind, my trading plans for the next two weeks is to get Fyfe, B Smith and The Bont into my team via Ablett, Cockatoo and Newnes.
Ablett to The Bont is a LOCK this week, which leaves Cockatoo to Fyfe or B Smith?
If Smith takes a week's rest for the effects of concussion, then my next trade is simple...I'll have 25K in the bank to cover potential price increase for next round.
Fyfe BE of 108
Smith BE of 33
Newnes BE of 96
If Smith plays this round, then I'll him in first due to his lower BE compared to Fyfe.
Let's say Fyfe score 130 and Newnes score 70, will my 25K in reserve be enough to cover their respective price increase/decrease?
With that in mind, my trading plans for the next two weeks is to get Fyfe, B Smith and The Bont into my team via Ablett, Cockatoo and Newnes.
Ablett to The Bont is a LOCK this week, which leaves Cockatoo to Fyfe or B Smith?
If Smith takes a week's rest for the effects of concussion, then my next trade is simple...I'll have 25K in the bank to cover potential price increase for next round.
Fyfe BE of 108
Smith BE of 33
Newnes BE of 96
If Smith plays this round, then I'll him in first due to his lower BE compared to Fyfe.
Let's say Fyfe score 130 and Newnes score 70, will my 25K in reserve be enough to cover their respective price increase/decrease?
Hi hd,
I wouldn't be thinking about that sort of thing until after the byes. Maybe with your last few upgrades, or injury replacements. Every selection is a POD to some of the teams up the top, and if you start thinking that way too early, you will compromise your team for sure. There are very few players every single top team has, and you'll probably have those few already anyway.
If you were as strong as 47 on a POD Premium, it's probably never too early to get them. As long as they way you calculated the 47 didn't include some component because they were a POD. It had to be that you were 47 that they were the best selection anyway.
I wouldn't be thinking about that sort of thing until after the byes. Maybe with your last few upgrades, or injury replacements. Every selection is a POD to some of the teams up the top, and if you start thinking that way too early, you will compromise your team for sure. There are very few players every single top team has, and you'll probably have those few already anyway.
If you were as strong as 47 on a POD Premium, it's probably never too early to get them. As long as they way you calculated the 47 didn't include some component because they were a POD. It had to be that you were 47 that they were the best selection anyway.
Hey Lenny, TE.
I'm only a little concerned. He can generally get this role at some stage during the season anyway. I selected him to keep him, and if it Means we have to wait 4 weeks of 10 to 15 points lower than we want, it Means I have given up about 60 points, but saved a trade.
Against that, I would think McPharlin might get Kennedy this week, which means MJ might get Lycett. I like that scenario, as MJ will run off Lycett when he can. Rnd 4 against Sydney might be bad for us, as he will get Tippett or Franklin, and probably scores lower there. Rounds 5 and 7 he has Melbourne and the Bulldogs. I like him to score ok there, too. Look at what Rance did on Boyd! Round 6 against Essendon will depend a lot on who Essendon pick. He has some potentially good scoring games coming up, and one likely stinker. I'm not too worried about him, to be honest. Just set reasonable expectations in the coming weeks, and hope for better when Dawson or Silvagni come back.
I'm only a little concerned. He can generally get this role at some stage during the season anyway. I selected him to keep him, and if it Means we have to wait 4 weeks of 10 to 15 points lower than we want, it Means I have given up about 60 points, but saved a trade.
Against that, I would think McPharlin might get Kennedy this week, which means MJ might get Lycett. I like that scenario, as MJ will run off Lycett when he can. Rnd 4 against Sydney might be bad for us, as he will get Tippett or Franklin, and probably scores lower there. Rounds 5 and 7 he has Melbourne and the Bulldogs. I like him to score ok there, too. Look at what Rance did on Boyd! Round 6 against Essendon will depend a lot on who Essendon pick. He has some potentially good scoring games coming up, and one likely stinker. I'm not too worried about him, to be honest. Just set reasonable expectations in the coming weeks, and hope for better when Dawson or Silvagni come back.
Hi wT2k,
firstly on NvB. He's no must have, and as long as you've got say 6 of the Rookies with B/E's that are better than -60, and another 2 or 3 that are -30 or better, you can probably slide by without him. If you don't, you might need/want him, or some on that list i mentioned.
As to Smith. I'm not 100% sure, but I would be thinking he might be a fair chance to miss this week anyway. Even if he plays, the backline score can be pretty inconsistent anyway, and I'd just live with your choices there, unless a change is forced on you.
Sheeds B/E of 20 makes him an iffy proposition, but I'm not as sold as everyone seems to be that Cripps isn't worth keeping. One bad half, then ok half, then a missed game. You'd think the Blues would be keen to give him a decent go after last weeks farnarcle. I'd certainly axe Sheed before Cripps.
If you really think it is NvB/Smith, then that is where you should go.
I would be looking at what you think you can afford, and if you can afford Cripps to NvB, and Ablett to Bont, with a guarantee you can still reach Fyfe next week, even if he goes 150 again, that might be a plan. Or you just keep Cripps instead of getting NvB, and go Sheed/Ablett to Fyfe/Bont this week.
firstly on NvB. He's no must have, and as long as you've got say 6 of the Rookies with B/E's that are better than -60, and another 2 or 3 that are -30 or better, you can probably slide by without him. If you don't, you might need/want him, or some on that list i mentioned.
As to Smith. I'm not 100% sure, but I would be thinking he might be a fair chance to miss this week anyway. Even if he plays, the backline score can be pretty inconsistent anyway, and I'd just live with your choices there, unless a change is forced on you.
Sheeds B/E of 20 makes him an iffy proposition, but I'm not as sold as everyone seems to be that Cripps isn't worth keeping. One bad half, then ok half, then a missed game. You'd think the Blues would be keen to give him a decent go after last weeks farnarcle. I'd certainly axe Sheed before Cripps.
If you really think it is NvB/Smith, then that is where you should go.
I would be looking at what you think you can afford, and if you can afford Cripps to NvB, and Ablett to Bont, with a guarantee you can still reach Fyfe next week, even if he goes 150 again, that might be a plan. Or you just keep Cripps instead of getting NvB, and go Sheed/Ablett to Fyfe/Bont this week.
Hey dyii,
if he averages 80 from here then $400k is roughly just above the price he is heading to as a max. That usually takes until about Round 11 or 12, but keep in mind, the last 3 weeks of that only produce about $15-$20k.
If he scores at 80 from here, his prices week by week will look something like:
R3 - $276,300, R4 - $319,500, R5 - $340,800, R6 - $356,100, R7 - $367,100, R8 - $377,000, R9 - $382,200, R10 - $385,900
if he averages 80 from here then $400k is roughly just above the price he is heading to as a max. That usually takes until about Round 11 or 12, but keep in mind, the last 3 weeks of that only produce about $15-$20k.
If he scores at 80 from here, his prices week by week will look something like:
R3 - $276,300, R4 - $319,500, R5 - $340,800, R6 - $356,100, R7 - $367,100, R8 - $377,000, R9 - $382,200, R10 - $385,900
Hey Bobbie,
KK to Smith/Docherty seems a genuine upgrade, where as some of the Lumumba to Smith type trades I am seeing suggested seem like 1 step sideways, and one step forward. As you read, I would live with your (forced) McEvoy decision. I would also hang onto Cripps. I'm not convinced that NvB is that much of a better option than Cripps, to warrant a trade.
KK to Smith/Docherty seems a genuine upgrade, where as some of the Lumumba to Smith type trades I am seeing suggested seem like 1 step sideways, and one step forward. As you read, I would live with your (forced) McEvoy decision. I would also hang onto Cripps. I'm not convinced that NvB is that much of a better option than Cripps, to warrant a trade.
Hey _Slip_,
I had an ok weekend, given the Ablett/Bartel/Rocky/non-Fyfe owner situation.
I think those Coaches that are looking to bring in a cheapish non-Rookie option to replace Goodes, or downgrade a Def Midpricer for Cash generation are probably best using Hunt or Roberton. I don't think your expectation is unreasonable at all.
I had an ok weekend, given the Ablett/Bartel/Rocky/non-Fyfe owner situation.
I think those Coaches that are looking to bring in a cheapish non-Rookie option to replace Goodes, or downgrade a Def Midpricer for Cash generation are probably best using Hunt or Roberton. I don't think your expectation is unreasonable at all.
Hey Juzzo,
I haven't heard anything new on Rocky, so maybe this week you chop him, and get one more weeks info on Ablett. Unless you're hot to keep Rocky as a chance to come back early and be a POD.
I think your decision might come down to who you will be targetting with your cash, if you wait a week.
I'd do your Miller to Hogan trade, and if your Prem you like next week has a tough game this week, or a decent B/E to overcome, then go Rocky to NvB, otherwise, grab your Prem this week.
I haven't heard anything new on Rocky, so maybe this week you chop him, and get one more weeks info on Ablett. Unless you're hot to keep Rocky as a chance to come back early and be a POD.
I think your decision might come down to who you will be targetting with your cash, if you wait a week.
I'd do your Miller to Hogan trade, and if your Prem you like next week has a tough game this week, or a decent B/E to overcome, then go Rocky to NvB, otherwise, grab your Prem this week.
Thanks Rowsus, I've decided to adopt your approach of I reckon it's too early to be conservative. At this stage of the season it's "go hard, or go home"
With that in mind, my trading plans for the next two weeks is to get Fyfe, B Smith and The Bont into my team via Ablett, Cockatoo and Newnes.
Ablett to The Bont is a LOCK this week, which leaves Cockatoo to Fyfe or B Smith?
If Smith takes a week's rest for the effects of concussion, then my next trade is simple...I'll have 25K in the bank to cover potential price increase for next round.
Fyfe BE of 108
Smith BE of 33
Newnes BE of 96
If Smith plays this round, then I'll him in first due to his lower BE compared to Fyfe.
Let's say Fyfe score 130 and Newnes score 70, will my 25K in reserve be enough to cover their respective price increase/decrease?
With that in mind, my trading plans for the next two weeks is to get Fyfe, B Smith and The Bont into my team via Ablett, Cockatoo and Newnes.
Ablett to The Bont is a LOCK this week, which leaves Cockatoo to Fyfe or B Smith?
If Smith takes a week's rest for the effects of concussion, then my next trade is simple...I'll have 25K in the bank to cover potential price increase for next round.
Fyfe BE of 108
Smith BE of 33
Newnes BE of 96
If Smith plays this round, then I'll him in first due to his lower BE compared to Fyfe.
Let's say Fyfe score 130 and Newnes score 70, will my 25K in reserve be enough to cover their respective price increase/decrease?
Keeping in mind that prices are heavily rounded, to the nearest hundred, and B/E's are also rounded, prices change by 440 per point from the B/E.
So if Fyfe scores a 130 on a B/E of 108, he will rise 22 x 440 = $9,700 +/- $300.
If Newnes scores 70 on a B/E of 96, he will drop 26 x 440 = -$11,400 +/- $300.
So if you have 25k in the bank as a buffer between Fyfe in and Newnes out, you need Newnes to get within:
25,000/440 = 56.8 + (Fyfe's B/E 108 - Newnes B/E 96) = 68.8 +/- 1.4 points of Fyfe. Not guaranteed he will, but it should be safe-ish.
Thanks Rowsus. I think the KK upgrade makes better use of a trade - he was always a risk but happy to admit it doesn't look like it will succeed. KK might have the odd good game but I can see a lot of sub-80's happening.
For the Ablett trade, who do you see as a "must have" mid premium? I already have Pendles, Jelwood, Fyfe and JPK. Sloane / Lewis / Heppell?????
For the Ablett trade, who do you see as a "must have" mid premium? I already have Pendles, Jelwood, Fyfe and JPK. Sloane / Lewis / Heppell?????
Many thanks Rowsus, I knew it was going to be a tight squeeze.
Hearing Walsh talk on Fox Footy 'On the Couch' last night makes me quietly confident that they won't risk playing Smith this week, especially with the Reilly incident still fresh in their memory. So there's a chance I may not have to withdraw from the bank and just get Fyfe this week and asses the Newnes to Smith trade next week...that would be my ideal scenario.
Hearing Walsh talk on Fox Footy 'On the Couch' last night makes me quietly confident that they won't risk playing Smith this week, especially with the Reilly incident still fresh in their memory. So there's a chance I may not have to withdraw from the bank and just get Fyfe this week and asses the Newnes to Smith trade next week...that would be my ideal scenario.
Hiya Row,
So i pulled the trigger last week and traded Rocky and Cripps to Shiel and Rich. We will see if this pays off...very happy with Shiel at present. It was the coaches votes that got Shiel over the line. I put Steven in my team over the bont at the start of the year and are now wondering if I should do the correction. What do you think? Personally I'm worried that Steven just won't make it, he has always been full of potential but not able to really deliver and I just don't think this will change.
If i do this I then have enough cash to go anderson to NVB, but unsure of this too?
I have 6 of the top 7 B/E players and the one I'm missing is hogan, is he a must have?
Thanks Row for all your time!
So i pulled the trigger last week and traded Rocky and Cripps to Shiel and Rich. We will see if this pays off...very happy with Shiel at present. It was the coaches votes that got Shiel over the line. I put Steven in my team over the bont at the start of the year and are now wondering if I should do the correction. What do you think? Personally I'm worried that Steven just won't make it, he has always been full of potential but not able to really deliver and I just don't think this will change.
If i do this I then have enough cash to go anderson to NVB, but unsure of this too?
I have 6 of the top 7 B/E players and the one I'm missing is hogan, is he a must have?
Thanks Row for all your time!
Interested in this. I assume you're saying that if you have that number of rookies going well then you should earn enough cash to make the necessary upgrades, and therefore don't need to prioritise getting in other cash cows?
I've been thinking I'd go Cripps > NvB and Miller > Sinclair this week, but based on this (and what you've said elsewhere about Cripps and NvB) I take it you'd advise to hold off? I really like Sinclair and don't think many others will have him but I'm aware it might be Saints bias and obviously it would be nice to save the trade.
I've been thinking I'd go Cripps > NvB and Miller > Sinclair this week, but based on this (and what you've said elsewhere about Cripps and NvB) I take it you'd advise to hold off? I really like Sinclair and don't think many others will have him but I'm aware it might be Saints bias and obviously it would be nice to save the trade.
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I hear ya Rowsus!
I am unfortunately 1.7k short of doing a Sheed to Bont and Ablett to Fyfe move!
Ironically if I had listened to you last week I would of been 2 points a head of where I am right now and 50k richer... in getting Wines instead of Lewis. The Hawthorn in me elected to get Lewis and now I am regretting it a little.
I am unfortunately 1.7k short of doing a Sheed to Bont and Ablett to Fyfe move!
Ironically if I had listened to you last week I would of been 2 points a head of where I am right now and 50k richer... in getting Wines instead of Lewis. The Hawthorn in me elected to get Lewis and now I am regretting it a little.
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Hey Row,
Just wanted to get your insight on the points scoring system. Last week I traded Rocky out for Heppell (thanks for the advice of not bringing in Gaz) and I was watching the game but not following SC scores and I thought he would have been dominating. Then I was feeling flat after seeing he only got 107. Do you know how or why this wasnt any higher?
You said earlier that the average so far is 4.8pts per possession. Adams was down low at 3.2 because his efficiency was so low and his clangers high. But Heppell only scored 3.15pts / disp for that game. He won a lot of the ball. 34 disposals. Had 12 CPs, 4 tackles, 5 clearances and a couple of free kicks. His efficiency was just under 70% and had 3 clangers.
I know long kicks and short kicks have different grading but its not like he was getting cheap Cotchin like chip kicks.
Bit of a rant but i just dont understand how the game he played results in just over 100 pts. Almost feel like trading him back out if he can play that well yet score at that poor rate.
Just wanted to get your insight on the points scoring system. Last week I traded Rocky out for Heppell (thanks for the advice of not bringing in Gaz) and I was watching the game but not following SC scores and I thought he would have been dominating. Then I was feeling flat after seeing he only got 107. Do you know how or why this wasnt any higher?
You said earlier that the average so far is 4.8pts per possession. Adams was down low at 3.2 because his efficiency was so low and his clangers high. But Heppell only scored 3.15pts / disp for that game. He won a lot of the ball. 34 disposals. Had 12 CPs, 4 tackles, 5 clearances and a couple of free kicks. His efficiency was just under 70% and had 3 clangers.
I know long kicks and short kicks have different grading but its not like he was getting cheap Cotchin like chip kicks.
Bit of a rant but i just dont understand how the game he played results in just over 100 pts. Almost feel like trading him back out if he can play that well yet score at that poor rate.
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