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I'm afraid you missed the top 1000, Oz.
While it's a fantastic looking team, you are missing too many key players, and have too many passengers, even though it is an all star line up!
Just picking a few out:
Keith Greig only managed 3 games for the season, but did have 49 possessions in those 3 games.
Malcolm Blight kicked 70 goals in his 15 games, so we will give him a passing grade.
Your Carlton boys let you down heavily. Ashman was a superstar, but Harmes only managed 15 games, Buckley only managed 13 games with 11.2 possessions per game, and Johnson only managed 12 games.
Bernie Quinlan was a great player for you. He was totally amazed to be listed in the Midfield, after playing FF/CHF the year before, and kicking 48 goals. He was so happy to be listed as a Mid, he kicked 73 goals that season for you!
Michael Turner also only managed 13 games, and his disposal average of 14.2 was low for a good wingman.
You had really high hopes that Matthews was going to be huge for you! He kicked 11 goals in round 1, but only finished the season with 16 games and 48 goals. Servicable, but didn't deliver what round 1 promised!
Your David Cloke experiment flopped badly. 12 games, 18 goals and only 70 hitouts! Ouch!
Mark Browning was good in the 12 games he managed.
Your biggest let down Kelvin Templeton! Brownlow medalist the year before, kicking 75 goals, he managed a paltry 6 games and 8 goals for you!
If it wasn't bad enough that those 9 players only played 101 games for you, you fell down badly by not finding space in your team for:
Peter Featherby, Tony Shaw, Terry Wallace, Geoff Raines, Tony Buhagiar and Bruce Nankervis who were the 6 leading possession getters for the season. In fact, of the 20 leading possession gatherers for the season, you only found 3! (Ashman, Neagle and Barker).
You probably should have found room for Barry Round, as well. His hitouts were down, but he lead the league in marks and handballs for the season!
Michael Roach might have found a spot in the Forward line with his season high 86 goals, but I can understand why you left 2nd place getter Mark "Jacko" Jackson out!
Mark Lee needed to replace Cloke, he was clearly the 2nd best tap Ruckman to Dempsey.

All in all, a team of football superstars, that struggled into the top 50,000 in SC. Too many injuries, and even the odd donut here and there, along with missing most of the high possession men cost you big time. Sorry. :)
I know i am late with the call. But wow Oz Rules you have just been Rowsused!
 

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I have three questions Rowsus although im not sure where you would find the stats. But 1. What is the lowest Super Coach score by a single player in a game ever. 2. Statistically who is the worst Super Coach player ever and lastly ( i know this isnt SC relevant) but what is the largest amount of clangers in a game and who by?

edit: also where does your username "Rowsus" originate from
 
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I have three questions Rowsus although im not sure where you would find the stats. But 1. What is the lowest Super Coach score by a single player in a game ever. 2. Statistically who is the worst Super Coach player ever and lastly ( i know this isnt SC relevant) but what is the largest amount of clangers in a game and who by?

edit: also where does your username "Rowsus" originate from
Ill get to the other 2 later, but to the best of my knowlege, the answer to the first question is:

2008, rnd 17 Michael Gardiner, 2 kicks, 8 hitouts, 3 free kicks against. It obviously doesn't tell the whole story, as he was given a -19 SC score that day!
 

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I have three questions Rowsus although im not sure where you would find the stats. But 1. What is the lowest Super Coach score by a single player in a game ever. 2. Statistically who is the worst Super Coach player ever and lastly ( i know this isnt SC relevant) but what is the largest amount of clangers in a game and who by?

edit: also where does your username "Rowsus" originate from
My name is Rowan, my wife's name is Sus = Rowsus

Good options for Duffield with 19.1k spare?
Sorry guys, I like to answer questions as quickly as I can, but I need to go out for 4-5 hours. I will answer the rest when I get back. :)
 

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Hey Rowsus, what would Pendles need to score this week to drop 13k by your numbers? SC Gold has his b/e as 123.

With this number in mind, how much do you think he'll drop in value this week vs Carlton :D
 
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I know i am late with the call. But wow Oz Rules you have just been Rowsused!
I was...lol..
It was all good though.

Has me intrigued though about the time when Bernie Quinlan was playing midfield. Not sure what season but certainly recall Superboot spent time as midfielder.
 
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Hey Rowsus,
Should I trade shuey with mitchell as the only emergency? Or should I keep shuey for back-up for later on?
Also, What's Blicav's BE? I've received a few answers which differ greatly from each other :/
 
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The simple answer is, no!
Clisby is a nice flavour of the month, but I think he adds little to your side. In some ways, having Thurlow as a donut, that let's you look at Vlastuin or Terlich or Hanley in most weeks, is more useful than Clisby.
With 5 trades and $100k you have room for one more straight upgrade, and one more one up, one down upgrade. That will leave you 2 trades to take you through to when you feel safe. Obviously the one up one down could wait 1 to 4 weeks depending on how nervous you are of disaster down the track.
You do have some potential 1 trade upgrades you could make, and it all comes down to your opinion of who makes the biggest gain from here. I'll take a stab at a couple, but it's best if you use your own figures.
Selwood/Priddis/Fyfe > Dangerfield.
My own guess would be Priddis. He seems to be getting possessions, but not big scores, and WC's draw is toughish. I can see Dangerfield averaging 125 between now, and the end of the season (SC Gold say 125.3). Priddis hasn't actually managed 1 score that high this season! My guess is Priddis might average 108 for the rest of the season. (SC Gold say 104.5). My guess is the upgrade will make you 153 points, SC Gold say it will make you 187 points.
McEvoy > Minson
I don't think I'd be seduced by McEvoys last score. It was against Orren Stephenson, for goodness sakes! Forget last weeks score, and he has overaged 73.0 in his last 5 games, or 90.2 in his last 9! Hardly what you want from your R2 in a finished team. My guess is he'll get around 95 from here, SC Gold say 85.2. Minson has averaged 109.0 in his last 5 games, and his worst 5 game streak for the season averaged 105.0! I can see him getting around 110 from here, and SC gold say around 106.8. My guess says the upgrade makes 135, SC Gold says it makes 194!
Rockliff > Petrie/Bartel
Rockliff is becoming a concern, again! Only 4 100+ scores for the season, and 3 of those came in the first 5 rounds! He has only averaged 75.2 in his last 5 games. Yes, Brisbane have an easy draw, and I'm nearly positive he will improve on that recent 75.2 game average, but I don't think he will get the 100+ average you want from your F6. My guess says around 94, SC Gold says 75.6! SC Gold have definitely changed their system for projected scores this season. They currently have Petrie getting 115.1 from here, which seems a bit high. I think it will be more like 106. Bartel is marked down for 109.1 by SC Gold, and I think that is pretty close to the mark. Going to Petrie gets you 108 in my opinion, and SC Gold says 355! Getting Bartel makes you 135 in my opinion, and 300 in SC Golds opinion.
So my guess is, go Priddis > Dangerfield, while SC Gold would have you go Rockliff > Petrie.
Getting Clisby might improve the back up on your bench, but it's too early to be strengthening your back up, when your on field stock can be improved. Also, the $100k made doesn't seem to help you reach a player you want/need now anyway...... or does it? Only you know that. :)
Good luck :)
Is the way I have been thinking and good to get someone back it up xx. Cheers again buddy.
 
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Another one rowsus. Do you ever plan on returning to Australia to live?
 

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I have three questions Rowsus although im not sure where you would find the stats. But 1. What is the lowest Super Coach score by a single player in a game ever.
Michael Gardiner Rnd 17, 2008, -19

2. Statistically who is the worst Super Coach player ever
The answer to this comes down to definition. Is a player that plays very few games, and ends up with little or no SC points, worse than a 50 game player that averages 50? It's all in the eye of the beholder.
There can't be too many players, who have played over 100 games, who never had a season average higher than 67.4. In the same manner, there can't be many players, who have played over 100 games, that have a career average as low as 61.6, with only 4.1% of games played scoring 100+, 9.9% of games scoring 90+ (including the 100+ games here), and 19.0% of games scoring 80+!!! Those stats belong to Alipate Carlile.
Some might nominate Ryan Crowley. Not only is his career average below Carlile's (61.1 to 61.6), but he then goes out and spoils the party for us all, by ruining our favourite Premiums day. At least he has one season where he managed to average over 70! (71 in 2006!). Comparing his percentages to Carlile's, we get 100+ in 6.2% of games, 90+ in 11.0% of games, 18.6% of games.
There's really not much between, and seeing as he's least popular, and I used to know his father (25 years ago!), I will say Crowley!

and lastly ( i know this isnt SC relevant) but what is the largest amount of clangers in a game and who by?
Clangers have only been recorded as a stat since 1998. In that time there have been 31 occassions that a player has reached double figures. The current record holders are:
Heath Shaw 13 v North, Rnd 1 2007
Adam McPhee 13 v WC, Rnd 12 2008
Only Buddy v Bull QF 2008, and Kerr v Kang Rnd 19 2006 have managed 12 in a game.
To most peoples amazement, Heater managed to score 94 with his 27 disposals that day. He kicked 1 goal and 5 behinds. One can only imagine his other 14 disposal were absolute pearlers! :)
To no one's surprise, McPhee managed a miserly 49 points for his 23 possessions that day. That was probably helped by the 11 marks he took!

edit: also where does your username "Rowsus" originate from
me = Rowan, wife = Sus, name = Rowsus
 

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Good options for Duffield with 19.1k spare?
Given you have Hanley, the players that seem to be some sort of option, in price order are:

Watts - $389,800 - A player that only plays well on confidence, and with the change of Coach, he seems to have that right now. Scored 85 and 139 under Craig, and Melbournes draw is 2nd to none. Had a 7 game streak between rnds 8 and 15 last season where he averaged 103.7. Probably not for everyone, or the best option, but could surprise

Shaun Burgoyne - $391,200 - 13 games at 84.4 this season, but is flattered by his 153 in rnd 4. Not for me.

Heath Scotland - $397,300 - Most long term Premiums that have fallen, bounce eventually. I'm not brimming with confidence over him, and if he does bounce, it might be a "dead-cat bounce".

Jack Hombsch - $411,900 - too much unknown about him in regards to his form. It is probably fleeting.

Jed Adcock - $424,100 - averaging 86.9, and that's probably where he's at.

Hamish Hartlett - $427,700 - dangerously up and down. His scores follow his teams fortune. If you think they're winners, jump on board. If you think they're shakey, stay away! Averaging 67.8 in losses this season, and 103.9 in wins. I reckon they'll win 4 or 5 of their last 9. Where does that land you? Right in the middle of "who knows". Big risk, and owned by 41% of top 100. Not for me.

Jake Carlisle - $442,100 - Big plus, no one in the top 1000 own him! Medium plus, averaging around 87. Medium minus, sometimes plays a negative role. Big minus, his average is hanging on 3 scores. Given your position he creates an amazing POD, but it would seem the odds are in favour of that being a negative POD.

Andrew Mackie - $442,200 - Another one not owned by any of the top 1000 Coaches. Averaging just under 88, and is a typical Geelong Def. They seem to rotate some of their rolls down there, and that makes their scores go up and down. Still he's a Def, and outside of the top ones, that's what their scores do!

Lachie Henderson - $443,100 - Another one none in the top 1000 own! Yes, there are probably good reasons for all 3 players being ignored. Henderson thrives on weak opposition this season. He's averaging 92 against teams below Carlton, and 78 against teams above Carlton. Carlton only play 4 teams below themselves from here, so it's a pass.

So the bottom line is, nothing is jumping out in your price range. Duffield is only owned by 12% of the top 100, so represents a POD of sorts anyway. It's a really tough call, but maybe given the cattle available, you just keep him. If you are comitted to trading him, my choices given the information above, are in order: Mackie, Scotland, Carlisle, Watts.
I hope this helped, good luck! :)
 
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Hey Rowsus, what would Pendles need to score this week to drop 13k by your numbers? SC Gold has his b/e as 123.

With this number in mind, how much do you think he'll drop in value this week vs Carlton :D
He needs to score 93-94 to drop $13k. SC Gold have him scoring his B/E of 123 this week, which equates to a price change of +/-$200. I don't think that will be far off, I actually think he may just beat his B/E by 4 or 5.
 

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Hey Rowsus,
Should I trade shuey with mitchell as the only emergency? Or should I keep shuey for back-up for later on?
Also, What's Blicav's BE? I've received a few answers which differ greatly from each other :/
Easy one first - Blicavs B/E is 83.
You're Midfield does look overstocked, especially compared to your Def and Ruck lines. You need to bone someone, so yes Shuey looks the obvious choice, or even possibly Mundy. Not sure of trade situation, but I'm guessing you need to sacrifice a Mid, to raise cash for upgrades in the other 2 lines. I'd do it if you have more than 3 or 4 trades left.
Good luck :)
 
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Hey Rowsus,

Interesting that you mentioned the name Jack Watts above. I was one of the silly sods that started Big Jack at the start of the year and we all know how that turned out.

I am currrently ranked around 2,500 and have only got 5 trades left. My team is in reasonable nick, but have Nicholls at R2 being my only rookie on the park.

However the past couple of weeks have not been kind on the injury front with Birchall, Hurn, Duffield all going down. I am still holding Birchall and was plannning to trade him this week, my main option was Hanley as I have no cash left ($5k only)

Now I am thinking Watts may be a left field option, which go be a good POD, but is more thatn likely going to be a negative POD.

The thing that concerns me most if I did bring in Watts for Birchall is this trade pattern:

Before Rd 3 Watts -> Birchall
Before Rd 10 Birchall -> Duffield
Before Rd 12 Terlich -> Birchalll
Before Rd 15 Birchall -> Watts

It is no wonder I am low on trades with the disaster which is above LOL. Talk about doing the full circle. I kind of wish that you had not mentioned his name above LOL.
 
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My name is Rowan, my wife's name is Sus = Rowsus
Haha, I just thought you were a massive Scooby Doo fan!
'Whats that Scoobs?'
'Rowsus Raggy!!!'

Edit - Watts = NO.

Two games does not a good season make...
 
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Edit - Watts = NO.

Two games does not a good season make...
Agreed, but when considering options in the case that cash is a problem. The other options such as Hanley, Hartlett etc, I don't think that Watts is that much worse of an option.

Sorry for hijacking your thread Rowsus...
 
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Agreed, but when considering options in the case that cash is a problem. The other options such as Hanley, Hartlett etc, I don't think that Watts is that much worse of an option.

Sorry for hijacking your thread Rowsus...
Oh I know the issues - currently I am looking at bringing in Mackie...sad really, but there don't seem to be better options in the price range :(

Apologies for continuing the hijack Rowsus.
 

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My initial thought glancing at that list prior to reading it was Hartlett, but his average when Port lose is very poor and he hasn't cracked the ton since round 5? I'll steer clear now. The other option I did look at there was Mackie, an average of 88 isn't too bad, many games at skilled too. I also looked a little outside the square at Beau Waters, surely he can pick up his form for the latter half of the season? My other option that is rather unique is Charlie Dixon. He is priced around 460K with a huge BE around 180 and footy wire has him dropping to the same price as Duffman's if he plays this week. I'd hold off one week and get him if the signs look good. I really like the look of Gold Coast's finals series and run home that I jumped on another POD, Trent Mckenzie, last week for Birch. Maybe Ablett, Dixon and Mckenzie may be too many but I'm striving to get as close as I can to the big bucks.

Will Dixon return this week?
And do you think Duffield will only be 2 weeks like FFC have stated? I think he's had calf problems before? Would that increase his chance of missing more games than just 2 and possibly even getting rested come SC finals?

Thanks for the huge write up Rowsus
 
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