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Which mid pricers/JLT bolters will you be starting?

  • Tuohy

    Votes: 11 11.7%
  • Mills

    Votes: 3 3.2%
  • Bob Murphy

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • Beams

    Votes: 80 85.1%
  • Marc Murphy

    Votes: 4 4.3%
  • Watson

    Votes: 6 6.4%
  • O'Meara

    Votes: 44 46.8%
  • Swallow

    Votes: 29 30.9%
  • Sandilands

    Votes: 80 85.1%
  • Witts

    Votes: 34 36.2%
  • Ryder

    Votes: 10 10.6%
  • Roughead

    Votes: 41 43.6%
  • Higgins

    Votes: 11 11.7%
  • Wingard

    Votes: 2 2.1%
  • Billings

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Nankervis

    Votes: 54 57.4%
  • Steele

    Votes: 28 29.8%
  • Petracca

    Votes: 2 2.1%

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Defence - I have this structure as well but have chosen 2 different Def premos. Remain skeptical on McGrath until I can see him play. Downgrading him releases a nice wad of cash!
I'm curious, if you're not liking McGrath in defence, are you rolling with a mid pricer? If you're running a 305, which i think you are, how confident are you that we will get enough rookies? I'm struggling to find anything more than 5 (McGrath, Hampton, Logue, Stewart, Ryan). I don't know much about Newman though so i suppose he's another to consider,
 

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No I have McGrath atm and will keep that structure until we see more. As you say it is completely dependent on so many unknowns.

It's safe to assume he'll be an ok selection but he'd want to be a ball tearer at 210k. Weitiering turn out ok but that had something to do with that one game where he hit 140 early on which set his cash generation right up. 305 would be the alternative - but no I'm not there yet.
 
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I'm curious, if you're not liking McGrath in defence, are you rolling with a mid pricer? If you're running a 305, which i think you are, how confident are you that we will get enough rookies? I'm struggling to find anything more than 5 (McGrath, Hampton, Logue, Stewart, Ryan). I don't know much about Newman though so i suppose he's another to consider,
What I'm reading is that Ryan had post season surgery and might start in the WAFL. Although if he is named rnd 1 then Ross must love him. Newman has been told their is a spot for his taking this year, but I think coaches probably do this a lot to fire up the playing group.
Kevin Bartlett used to get a phone call from Tom Hafey every Friday night telling him how important he was to the team winning the next day. Kevin thought he was special until he found out that Hafey used to ring every player and tell them the same thing.
 

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I'm curious, if you're not liking McGrath in defence, are you rolling with a mid pricer? If you're running a 305, which i think you are, how confident are you that we will get enough rookies? I'm struggling to find anything more than 5 (McGrath, Hampton, Logue, Stewart, Ryan). I don't know much about Newman though so i suppose he's another to consider,
One or both of Keefe/Scharenberg should line up round 1.
 
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One or both of Keefe/Scharenberg should line up round 1.
I think Scharenberg is unlikely to play, still not doing full training, will probably start in the VFL and be a nice downgrade target.

Only picking Keefe if Dunn plays, as it would mean Keefe will be pinchhitting in the ruck. If Keefe is KPD then expect 30-50 scores.
 
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Shaw, Laird, Rance, Keefe, Hampton, Vickers-Willis, Stewart, FD
Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Rockliff, Treloar, Fyfe, D. Swallow, Foote, Myers, Powell-Pepper, Barrett, Clarke
Goldstein, Sandilands, Strnadica
Dahlhaus, Macrae, C. Rioli, Heeney, Knight, Black, Pickett, Eddy

Prefer the Rockliff risk to the Beams risk at this stage (don't think I can carry both) as I think the upside is greater and the Beams saving doesn't get me much that I want at the moment, although that will probably change as the rookies become clearer.

Treloar over The Bont has me anxious and could go either way. Treloar feels safer for some reason. Maybe just because I had him last season and his progression has been calmer and more predictable.

Don't think the upside on Adams is great enough to cancel out the injury risk, although a complete preseason may have me thinking differently. Rance could easily be him or Johannisen.

Quite like Rioli at the moment but maybe just a whim of summer. We'll see.

Pretty vanilla apart from that.
 
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I'm curious, if you're not liking McGrath in defence, are you rolling with a mid pricer? If you're running a 305, which i think you are, how confident are you that we will get enough rookies? I'm struggling to find anything more than 5 (McGrath, Hampton, Logue, Stewart, Ryan). I don't know much about Newman though so i suppose he's another to consider,
One or both of Keefe/Scharenberg should line up round 1.
One of the North boys too
 

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I'm curious, if you're not liking McGrath in defence, are you rolling with a mid pricer? If you're running a 305, which i think you are, how confident are you that we will get enough rookies? I'm struggling to find anything more than 5 (McGrath, Hampton, Logue, Stewart, Ryan). I don't know much about Newman though so i suppose he's another to consider,
McGrath, Hampton, Newman, Ryan, Vicker-Willis (or Hibberd), Stewart, J.Berry, throw in some of the higher priced guys like Keefe/Logue. I think there'll be quite a few defence rookies to keep an eye on.
 

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N Brown and M Williams perhaps?
Ok, some spots to be filled yes.
Think Dunn is ahead of Keefe after a two year absence for Browns spot.
Langdon and Sinclair ahead of Scharenberg - for first few rounds - for Williams.
Scharenberg I think will occupy that role however if/when fit after a few games in the VFL.
 

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No I have McGrath atm and will keep that structure until we see more. As you say it is completely dependent on so many unknowns.

It's safe to assume he'll be an ok selection but he'd want to be a ball tearer at 210k. Weitiering turn out ok but that had something to do with that one game where he hit 140 early on which set his cash generation right up. 305 would be the alternative - but no I'm not there yet.
Yeah, he's rated pretty highly from what i've read and a near certainty to play from the get-go. Potentially playing a half back rebounder role which would be fantasy gold for a rookie, espcially as we play a bit of a high possession style game. I think deep forward is probably more likely but who knows. You're right $210k is a real tough pill to swallow. I think he'll be in a lot of teams because he'll be the 4th cheapest backline rookie named round 1...but if others do pop up then he'll either come out or make his way to D4.

What I'm reading is that Ryan had post season surgery and might start in the WAFL. Although if he is named rnd 1 then Ross must love him. Newman has been told their is a spot for his taking this year, but I think coaches probably do this a lot to fire up the playing group.
Kevin Bartlett used to get a phone call from Tom Hafey every Friday night telling him how important he was to the team winning the next day. Kevin thought he was special until he found out that Hafey used to ring every player and tell them the same thing.
Lol.

Interesting about Newman, i generally feel pretty uncertain about rookies at any of the really strong teams but sounds like he's gonna get a run. Might just work him into my team now :p
 

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Shaw, Laird, Rance, Keefe, Hampton, Vickers-Willis, Stewart, FD
Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Rockliff, Treloar, Fyfe, D. Swallow, Foote, Myers, Powell-Pepper, Barrett, Clarke
Goldstein, Sandilands, Strnadica
Dahlhaus, Macrae, C. Rioli, Heeney, Knight, Black, Pickett, Eddy

Prefer the Rockliff risk to the Beams risk at this stage (don't think I can carry both) as I think the upside is greater and the Beams saving doesn't get me much that I want at the moment, although that will probably change as the rookies become clearer.

Treloar over The Bont has me anxious and could go either way. Treloar feels safer for some reason. Maybe just because I had him last season and his progression has been calmer and more predictable.

Don't think the upside on Adams is great enough to cancel out the injury risk, although a complete preseason may have me thinking differently. Rance could easily be him or Johannisen.

Quite like Rioli at the moment but maybe just a whim of summer. We'll see.

Pretty vanilla apart from that.
Looks pretty good stephen, and again this is pretty similar to my side (close in structure, with 11 common keepers - see comments above).

A few thoughts:

- Backs look pretty good. I'm wavering on Shaw given I think he's vulnerable to the tag, but if you disagree, he looks a very solid pick.

- I'm not sure why you don't think you can carry both Beams and Rocky? Most of your picks are pretty reliable as I see it, and Beams is amongst the most discounted premiums. Personally, I'd strongly prefer Beams to Rioli if you're hitting your injury risk budget. Beams and Sandi were my first picks, and I'm pretty durability-focused - the value means the risk is worth it, in my eyes.

- My rucks are identical. That means neither of us has cover, which isn't great, but also isn't the biggest issue as I see it. You could contemplate using Beams' discount to fund Witts at R3 if you wished. I'm moving away from Witts as well, but it's an option.

- I agree re Adams. I think it applies similarly to JJ though ... I certainly wouldn't increase my injury risk on one of those guys if that's what is keeping Beams out of your side.

- Rioli is interesting. He doesn't make the cut at all in Bomber's PIT thread, so I'd suggest you need to believe something has changed to springboard him into that list for him to be appealing (he's not discounted). That might be the loss of Mitchell and Lewis, although they've also brought in two good mids. It could also be that many of those that do make the PIT rankings aren't forward-eligible any more. If that's it, I'd also consider names that are somewhat discounted and/or that are less likely to give you headaches with missed games. I'd have a think about Roughy, Bennell, Westhoff, Gunston and Wingard. You could even cut him altogether, turn Swallow into a premium, and get another cash cow up forward. Someone like McCarthy is more interesting than I'd originally thought and may be a bit like Swallow but perhaos with less injury risk and a better bye, and with less cash tied up in a cash cow.

I think you're in pretty good shape though, this is largely tinkering around the edges.

Good luck.
 

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Fair chance I'm the only person with the following rookie below.....

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To explain, Sam retired and but re drafted by the Crows on welfare/compassionate ground but won't play. I obvious picked him as a placeholder before VS took him off the team planner....
 
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Sam Docherty, Taylor Adams, Rory Laird, Jason Johannisen, Matthew Scharenberg, Curtly Hampton, Luke Ryan, Tom Stewart

Midfielders:
Patrick Dangerfield, Josh P. Kennedy, Rory Sloane Nat Fyfe, Dayne Beams, David Swallow, Sam Powell-Pepper, David Myers, Nathan Freeman, Shai Bolton, Jack Graham

Rucks:
Max Gawn, Aaron Sandilands, Luke Strnadica

Forwards:
Luke Dahlhaus, Jack Macrae, Isaac Heeney, Jack Steele, Aaron Black, Brett Eddy, Jarrod Pickett, Brayden Sier
 
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Sam Docherty, Taylor Adams, Rory Laird, Jason Johannisen, Matthew Scharenberg, Curtly Hampton, Luke Ryan, Tom Stewart

Midfielders:
Patrick Dangerfield, Josh P. Kennedy, Rory Sloane Nat Fyfe, Dayne Beams, David Swallow, Sam Powell-Pepper, David Myers, Nathan Freeman, Shai Bolton, Jack Graham

Rucks:
Max Gawn, Aaron Sandilands, Luke Strnadica

Forwards:
Luke Dahlhaus, Jack Macrae, Isaac Heeney, Jack Steele, Aaron Black, Brett Eddy, Jarrod Pickett, Brayden Sier
I know rookies are generally placeholders at this stage of the preseason but I'd have reservations over Scharenberg, Hampton, Ryan, Freeman and Steele from that lot.
 
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Ok first team of the year for me. Seems very safe with the only risk lying in Sandi and Roughy for the most part.

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Montagna, Adams, Laird, Mcgrath, Hampton, Berry (123k, 123k)

Danger. Pendles, JPK, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, SPP, Myers ( 123k, 123k, 123k)

Goldy, Sandi (Witts)

Lids, Macrae, Heeney, Roughy, Black, 123k (123k, Strnadica)

Def seems pretty straight forward picks this year, possible Adams - Rance if i feel the side gets too injury proneish.

6 deep mid seems the way to go, would love Sloane in there and may figure out a way to do it over the Bont.

Goldy to do Goldy things, Witts if #1 ruck is too good to pass up as cover for Sandi.

Deledio seems quite unpopular from the sides Ive seen, to me he presents pretty good value and a friendly bye round. If Roughead doesnt come up its fairly easy to grab Mcarthy/Mcluggage as replacements without really affecting structure too badly.

Any feedback greatly appreciated thanks lads.
 
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Like it a lot Russ, similar to mine I guess is why!

Backs the same, I've gone off Adams a bit but hard not to see the appeal.

Like your mids, you have no "expensive rookies" which I do more as a check. I'm shying off Beams too, but see the appeal if he stays healthy.

Same ruck set-up.

I like lids, would try to sneak him into my side. No Dahlhaus?
 
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Like it a lot Russ, similar to mine I guess is why!

Backs the same, I've gone off Adams a bit but hard not to see the appeal.

Like your mids, you have no "expensive rookies" which I do more as a check. I'm shying off Beams too, but see the appeal if he stays healthy.

Same ruck set-up.

I like lids, would try to sneak him into my side. No Dahlhaus?
Bye Structure re Dahl mate, burnt me so bad last season, traded him in the round he got injured but will make his way back in at some point.

Rough is there as the expensive rookie buffer as much as a value pick, will be the first to go if funds are needed. There dont really seem to be many expensive rookies that are looking must haves at this stage, im actually not even that hot on McGrath. I tend to do all my premium research now and focus the rookies a bit closer to season proper. This setup allows Avg 140.6k per rookie which is definitely a bit lower than id like though.
 
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