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Which mid pricers/JLT bolters will you be starting?

  • Tuohy

    Votes: 11 11.7%
  • Mills

    Votes: 3 3.2%
  • Bob Murphy

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • Beams

    Votes: 80 85.1%
  • Marc Murphy

    Votes: 4 4.3%
  • Watson

    Votes: 6 6.4%
  • O'Meara

    Votes: 44 46.8%
  • Swallow

    Votes: 29 30.9%
  • Sandilands

    Votes: 80 85.1%
  • Witts

    Votes: 34 36.2%
  • Ryder

    Votes: 10 10.6%
  • Roughead

    Votes: 41 43.6%
  • Higgins

    Votes: 11 11.7%
  • Wingard

    Votes: 2 2.1%
  • Billings

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Nankervis

    Votes: 54 57.4%
  • Steele

    Votes: 28 29.8%
  • Petracca

    Votes: 2 2.1%

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I am really interested in people's selections of Petrevski-Seton. I know a bit about him but for mine, Will Brodie might be a safer pick. Carlton might use SPS as a forward due to their lack of forward power.
I think the Blues need class and future class in their mid field - they are not going to be pushing finals and Bolts is still building the group, so I expect PS to be a good mid rookie selection. Of my glancing at the best 22s on bigfooty, many seem to be factoring in PS into their starting sides.
 
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I think the Blues need class and future class in their mid field - they are not going to be pushing finals and Bolts is still building the group, so I expect PS to be a good mid rookie selection. Of my glancing at the best 22s on bigfooty, many seem to be factoring in PS into their starting sides.
Annoying that he is a pure mid and doesn't have DPP status. It is going to be hard moving out one of Brodie, Foote and Myers from onfield rookie selections.
 
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Annoying that he is a pure mid and doesn't have DPP status. It is going to be hard moving out one of Brodie, Foote and Myers from onfield rookie selections.
Do you expect Foote to get a lot of playing time from the start in a crowded Sydney team?
 
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Do you expect Foote to get a lot of playing time from the start in a crowded Sydney team?
I didn't really know anything about him until preseason a few weeks/months ago. Longmire keeps talking about him. Foote won the 1st-4th year time trial and came I believe top-5 with the entire squad trial. Honestly, it seems to be that preseason hype but as I've stated Longmire is impressed with his training thus far.
 
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I didn't really know anything about him until preseason a few weeks/months ago. Longmire keeps talking about him. Foote won the 1st-4th year time trial and came I believe top-5 with the entire squad trial. Honestly, it seems to be that preseason hype but as I've stated Longmire is impressed with his training thus far.
Thanks for that. At about $182k, he is one of quite a few reasonable looking players in that $170k - $200k price range. I suspect a few of them may be good picks, but won't be able to chose them all.
 
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theres only 4 good midfield rookies (at this stage anyway) brodie,barrett,myers and powell-pepper

where as mcluggage,ainsworth,knight and bowes are forwards

and backs are ryan,stewart,hampton and newman and mcgrath to an extent but dont think he's worth the extra money at this stage
 

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theres only 4 good midfield rookies (at this stage anyway) brodie,barrett,myers and powell-pepper

where as mcluggage,ainsworth,knight and bowes are forwards

and backs are ryan,stewart,hampton and newman and mcgrath to an extent but dont think he's worth the extra money at this stage
Something I've been concerned about early is the midfield rookies! Are Brodie, Barrett and SPP in the best 22? GC have added a lot of midfield depth in Hanley, Barlow, Swallow return, Lyons. If Ainsworth/Bowes/Brodie are rotated for that one spot, that'd be terrible for our sides.

Foxsports author had this as their best 22:

BEST 22

B: Adam Saad, Rory Thompson, Jarrod Harbrow

HB: Kade Kolodjashnij, Steven May, Jack Martin

C: Pearce Hanley, David Swallow, Matt Rosa

HF: Aaron Hall, Tom Lynch, Touk Miller

F: Sam Day, Peter Wright, Callum Ah Chee

FOLL: Jarrod Witts, Michael Rischitelli, Gary Ablett

I/C: Jarryd Lyons, Brayden Fiorini, Michael Barlow, Alex Sexton

EMG: Jesse Lonergan, Tom Nicholls, Ben Ainsworth
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gol...o/news-story/f43a693960f2010d6feb431f78840da6

I think it seems early that there will be a lot of defensive rookies, Ryan, Newman, Hampton, M.Hibberd(D/M), Ed Vicker-Willis, McGrath(D/M), J.Berry (D/M). We might be starting a few D/Ms in the midfield!

I think McGrath might be worth the cash, averaged 140 in TAC & I think he'll be given the chance early.
 
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Stewart from the Cats is an other back rookie that is on my radar.

For the Suns, I think it is between Brodie and Ainsworth as to who gets the early games, with everything I have read putting Ainsworth slightly in front.
 
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Something I've been concerned about early is the midfield rookies! Are Brodie, Barrett and SPP in the best 22? GC have added a lot of midfield depth in Hanley, Barlow, Swallow return, Lyons. If Ainsworth/Bowes/Brodie are rotated for that one spot, that'd be terrible for our sides.

Foxsports author had this as their best 22:


http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gol...o/news-story/f43a693960f2010d6feb431f78840da6

I think it seems early that there will be a lot of defensive rookies, Ryan, Newman, Hampton, M.Hibberd(D/M), Ed Vicker-Willis, McGrath(D/M), J.Berry (D/M). We might be starting a few D/Ms in the midfield!

I think McGrath might be worth the cash, averaged 140 in TAC & I think he'll be given the chance early.
the foxsports guy has rischitelli in his team so i think that shows how much he knows tbh

brodie is something that the suns don't have a 189 cm mid who is a good handballer and has been in good form already and with ainsworth a smaller version of brodie but who can go forward and kick a few goals

on mcgrath he could be a good pick but he could be a tagger as he tagged ainsworth out of a game which wouldn't necasarilly be a bad thing but with the mentioned alternatives i think he wont be worth the extra money
 
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Something I've been concerned about early is the midfield rookies! Are Brodie, Barrett and SPP in the best 22? GC have added a lot of midfield depth in Hanley, Barlow, Swallow return, Lyons. If Ainsworth/Bowes/Brodie are rotated for that one spot, that'd be terrible for our sides.

Foxsports author had this as their best 22:


http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gol...o/news-story/f43a693960f2010d6feb431f78840da6

I think it seems early that there will be a lot of defensive rookies, Ryan, Newman, Hampton, M.Hibberd(D/M), Ed Vicker-Willis, McGrath(D/M), J.Berry (D/M). We might be starting a few D/Ms in the midfield!

I think McGrath might be worth the cash, averaged 140 in TAC & I think he'll be given the chance early.
I hope you're right about the back line rookies because it is the one line I'm having trouble locking in starters. I'd love to start 6 premo mids.
 

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the foxsports guy has rischitelli in his team so i think that shows how much he knows tbh

brodie is something that the suns don't have a 189 cm mid who is a good handballer and has been in good form already and with ainsworth a smaller version of brodie but who can go forward and kick a few goals

on mcgrath he could be a good pick but he could be a tagger as he tagged ainsworth out of a game which wouldn't necasarilly be a bad thing but with the mentioned alternatives i think he wont be worth the extra money
Good call on Rischitelli, even then without injuries, there's one spot in that side who lonergan/bowes/brodie/ainsworth are all fighting for.

What was special about that Ainsworth/McGrath matchup was that McGrath negated Ainsworth but was still able to set up plays off half back to finishes with a lot of possessions. I don't think he'll be played in a tagging role, he'll try play the JJ role at Essendon. D/M means he could be picked up in the mids too if we don't end up having a lot of mid rookies. One to keep an eye on.

I hope you're right about the back line rookies because it is the one line I'm having trouble locking in starters. I'd love to start 6 premo mids.
Signs look good at the moment. I think Ryan, Hampton, Newman, Vicker-Willis and McGrath definitely have spots they could sew up with good NAB performances. Don't know much about Stewart but the more options the better.
 
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What was special about that Ainsworth/McGrath matchup was that McGrath negated Ainsworth but was still able to set up plays off half back to finishes with a lot of possessions. I don't think he'll be played in a tagging role, he'll try play the JJ role at Essendon. D/M means he could be picked up in the mids too if we don't end up having a lot of mid rookies. One to keep an eye on.
Would Mills be a reasonable comparison? Priced at $211K, went up $100K by round 8 and averaged 77 for the year.
 

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Would Mills be a reasonable comparison? Priced at $211K, went up $100K by round 8 and averaged 77 for the year.
Yeah Mills/Heppell a pretty good comparison. McGrath is very quick though. It's a pity we have most of our ES games in the second half of the season as he'd be much more suited to playing at ES with the JJ comparison.
 

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I've tried to make a side full of only durable premiums (ie: have played 21-22 game seasons consistently). I've had to make exceptions in the forward line as I can't find anyone viable other than the Doggies fwds.

D: Docherty, Shaw, McGrath, Hampton, Newman, Ryan (Vicker-Willis, Stewart)
M: Danger, Pendles, Hanners, JPK, Treloar, Heppell, Foote, Myers (SPP, Berry, Mountford)
R: Gawn, Grundy (Strnadica)
F: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, McCluggage, Knight, Pickett (Rioli, McKay)
Bank: $45k

13 keepers with Heeney and Heppell the main "borderline" premiums - not a bad result. Might have one less premium to begin with than those with Beams/Sandi & without both Shaw & Doch, but does saved injury trades make up for the extra rookie?
 
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I've tried to make a side full of only durable premiums (ie: have played 21-22 game seasons consistently). I've had to make exceptions in the forward line as I can't find anyone viable other than the Doggies fwds.

D: Docherty, Shaw, McGrath, Hampton, Newman, Ryan (Vicker-Willis, Stewart)
M: Danger, Pendles, Hanners, JPK, Treloar, Heppell, Foote, Myers (SPP, Berry, Mountford)
R: Gawn, Grundy (Strnadica)
F: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, McCluggage, Knight, Pickett (Rioli, McKay)
Bank: $45k

13 keepers with Heeney and Heppell the main "borderline" premiums - not a bad result. Might have one less premium to begin with than those with Beams/Sandi & without both Shaw & Doch, but does saved injury trades make up for the extra rookie?
I've been toying around with something similar. It's an attractive option in a year when so many of the popular picks have such risk attached to them.

On my predictions my 'safe' teams generally run at about 40 points per week below the ones that take the obvious injury risks. It seems possible that will be made up for by the missed games and the forced trades, particularly if some injury-affected scores are thrown in, but I think you'll have to take a few risks to be right up there at the pointy end. Fyfe and Sandi are the first two of the injury risk players that come back in for me. Sandi because he only has to last the first couple of months to be a success, and Fyfe because it's plausible he's the best scoring player (at least on averages) for the season.
 
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13 keepers with Heeney and Heppell the main "borderline" premiums - not a bad result. Might have one less premium to begin with than those with Beams/Sandi & without both Shaw & Doch, but does saved injury trades make up for the extra rookie?
I am interested that so many coaches aim for 13 or 14 "keepers". Last year the winner started only 11 of what you would call likely keepers and that included Barlow and the Banjo Player who had serious questions around them as "keepers". And in the past other winners have had similar numbers below 13 or 14. Is it really critical to push for that higher number at the start? I am also reminded of Impromptu's experiment when he started with a mid combination full of rookies.
 

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I've been toying around with something similar. It's an attractive option in a year when so many of the popular picks have such risk attached to them.

On my predictions my 'safe' teams generally run at about 40 points per week below the ones that take the obvious injury risks. It seems possible that will be made up for by the missed games and the forced trades, particularly if some injury-affected scores are thrown in, but I think you'll have to take a few risks to be right up there at the pointy end. Fyfe and Sandi are the first two of the injury risk players that come back in for me. Sandi because he only has to last the first couple of months to be a success, and Fyfe because it's plausible he's the best scoring player (at least on averages) for the season.
Yeah agree with you. Sandi is arguably just a "rookie" as he has the potential to generate $200k whilst averaging 100. Fyfe/Beams are the other two. I probably will start Bennell too.

I am interested that so many coaches aim for 13 or 14 "keepers". Last year the winner started only 11 of what you would call likely keepers and that included Barlow and the Banjo Player who had serious questions around them as "keepers". And in the past other winners have had similar numbers below 13 or 14. Is it really critical to push for that higher number at the start? I am also reminded of Impromptu's experiment when he started with a mid combination full of rookies.
Actually last years winner had 13 keepers + Wells + Crouch and only ended up with 7! (read further on Jock Reynolds - http://www.jockreynolds.com.au/2016...nalysing-the-winning-supercoach-team-of-2016/)

We had a discussion about this in the Midfielders thread just before. I think teams naturally start about 13-14 "keepers". We hope that at least 11 or so become keepers but reality is it's more about rookies and your trading than it is your starting side (although, you need a reasonable one to put you in contention). To answer your question, no not really!
 
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Myers is definitely best 22. He'd be ahead of Kelly/Howlett/Hocking/Stanton and the 1-3 yr players. I think Myers will be a very reliable selection to hold til the perfect R13 bye.
Ahead of Stanton? Big call.
 
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Actually last years winner had 13 keepers + Wells + Crouch and only ended up with 7! (read further on Jock Reynolds - http://www.jockreynolds.com.au/2016/...-team-of-2016/)
Maybe it just my interpretation of "keepers" which to is really closer to premiums I suppose. I only considered Shaw, Laird, Danger, Gablett, Hanners, Priddis, Rocky, Gawnstein, Barlow and Banjo as keepers in that team. I would never had considered that by starting JJ, Martin and co they would be treated as keepers. To me they were mid priced specs.
 
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I am interested that so many coaches aim for 13 or 14 "keepers". Last year the winner started only 11 of what you would call likely keepers and that included Barlow and the Banjo Player who had serious questions around them as "keepers". And in the past other winners have had similar numbers below 13 or 14. Is it really critical to push for that higher number at the start? I am also reminded of Impromptu's experiment when he started with a mid combination full of rookies.
I've always tried to start as many keepers as possible but not this year. Aiming for 11 or 12. I'm thinking that if I'm bad at predicting who the best players will be why would I try and increase my chances of getting it wrong. Some of the expensive cash cows with good job security like Swallow, Sheed, Giles, Selwood have been in and out of my team a lot so far.
 
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