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Good side. Pretty much the standard structure a lot of us are running with.
Cannot fault the midfield, I think 5 mids + Beams looks the right structure. A fit & firing 100+ D.Swallow might change things but yet to be seen where he's at.
I'm warming on Lids too so it's a worthwhile starting selection. High ceiling, good bye round. Start or forget! Although having him there might rule out Witts at R3. If you have an injury prone guy, you'd probably prefer a guy like Knights/McCarthy/M.White in the forward line to strengthen your rookie coverage. Very weak with Strndica at F8.
Cannot fault the midfield, I think 5 mids + Beams looks the right structure. A fit & firing 100+ D.Swallow might change things but yet to be seen where he's at.
I'm warming on Lids too so it's a worthwhile starting selection. High ceiling, good bye round. Start or forget! Although having him there might rule out Witts at R3. If you have an injury prone guy, you'd probably prefer a guy like Knights/McCarthy/M.White in the forward line to strengthen your rookie coverage. Very weak with Strndica at F8.
*Tweak, trade, tighten, loosen, structure move.*
Its the Supercoach pre-season and as much as I love it, my team gets 'adjusted' constantly (not sure if it is for better or worse)... Here is an early Dec version:
What has happened in the month since asked no-one? How have the marvellous posters at SCS changed my thinking asked even less people?!
Team PC 2.0
B: Rance, Laird, Hodge, McGrath, Berry, Newman, [Ryan, Stewart]
M: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Rocky, Bont, Fyfe, Pet-Set, Foote, [PP, Myers, Barrett]
R: Grundy, Sandi, [Stranarananananada]
F: Dahl, Macrae, Heeney, Scottishsuitcase, Knight, Pickett, [Rioli, Eddy]
Bank: 90k odd
Back changes:
- I have been swayed by the PIT thread (an excellent thread imo) and put Rance in for Adams. First time I have had Rance in my team (ever) and am hoping he pays off through his durability and golden pass. Adams is probably fully priced and can be traded in if required.
- Hodge for Monty. As a Hawks supporter I love The General and reports of him being 'trim and terrific' and knowing that the team needs another mid to fill the big shoes of Mitch and Jordan, I am hoping it will be Hodgey. Have also been swayed by the Rowsus talk of 'just start these types, don't trade them in'...
- Thought long and hard about a 2/0/4 structure in the backs and may go back there (Hodge the victim) if rookies show themselves. I like my back line to be solid and consistent in its scoring, and can see the $550k+ types fall in price and be ready for a trade in. Doch hasn't proven himself, Simmo is old, Shaw I have my doubts over the quality of his team not making the ball stay in the fwd line and a tag being shoved on him, never considered Boyd, and Monty just doesn't sit right with me.
Mid changes:
- Really only one change here, and it is a big one - Bont for Beams. I didn't start Libba last year although I was very tempted at times, and I see this as a very similar situation. By the end of the season I want my M8 to be a value pick that I have found along the way rather than one I started. Beams has a long and recent injury history (chronic by what I have read), will be very popular, hasn't played much over the last season or so, will cop the tag if playing well, plays in a weak team and has a new coach - all signs that say look elsewhere to me. Bont, well Bont will go 105 at least and I would rather shut a semi-popular pick like him down from the start than a value pick that has injury concerns.
- Lock in the big mid prems early, don't play the mid-pricer roulette, enjoy the points income, have ample VC and C options and trust the rolled gold mid selections. This is my mid mantra.
Ruck changes:
- Grundy has been playing hokey pokey with Goldy at R1 for some time and will probably continue to do so. Grundy the risk pick but I have a bad itch about Goldy and the Roos this year.
- Sandi for Gawn. Just can't pass up on a fit Sandi, no third man, Fyfe back, lots of early home games and a cost of $300k. Gawn will be cheaper at some point this season and history is against him - I was sure of Goldy being in the top two rucks last season and payed a premium for him, Gawn I am not so sure of.
Forward changes:
- Sandi for Gawn has allowed enough coin for a rookie to Heeney. I have read the Mod thread with interest and enjoyed the over analysis/good discussion (depending on your point of view). Heeney will be top 10 forwards this year, if not top 6. GC Lynch had a brief stay at F3 but has an early bye and is a KPP. Heeney looks to be the logical popular pick shut down move.
Bank: $90k odd
Rookies: They have shifted and moved every time I have read something or picked up a 'tasty tip'. The key thing being I have enough $200k rookies to allow flex if needed (free up coin or not miss a selection) and still have the prem structure I like.
In a month, my team will have changed I am sure. I need to keep an eye on injuries, SC Gold %s and ignore the pre-season games...
Ah, January Sat mornings are all about coffee and SC pre-season - love it. Now to teach my missus, 2 yr old and 3 week old to love it just as much
Its the Supercoach pre-season and as much as I love it, my team gets 'adjusted' constantly (not sure if it is for better or worse)... Here is an early Dec version:
What has happened in the month since asked no-one? How have the marvellous posters at SCS changed my thinking asked even less people?!
Team PC 2.0
B: Rance, Laird, Hodge, McGrath, Berry, Newman, [Ryan, Stewart]
M: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Rocky, Bont, Fyfe, Pet-Set, Foote, [PP, Myers, Barrett]
R: Grundy, Sandi, [Stranarananananada]
F: Dahl, Macrae, Heeney, Scottishsuitcase, Knight, Pickett, [Rioli, Eddy]
Bank: 90k odd
Back changes:
- I have been swayed by the PIT thread (an excellent thread imo) and put Rance in for Adams. First time I have had Rance in my team (ever) and am hoping he pays off through his durability and golden pass. Adams is probably fully priced and can be traded in if required.
- Hodge for Monty. As a Hawks supporter I love The General and reports of him being 'trim and terrific' and knowing that the team needs another mid to fill the big shoes of Mitch and Jordan, I am hoping it will be Hodgey. Have also been swayed by the Rowsus talk of 'just start these types, don't trade them in'...
- Thought long and hard about a 2/0/4 structure in the backs and may go back there (Hodge the victim) if rookies show themselves. I like my back line to be solid and consistent in its scoring, and can see the $550k+ types fall in price and be ready for a trade in. Doch hasn't proven himself, Simmo is old, Shaw I have my doubts over the quality of his team not making the ball stay in the fwd line and a tag being shoved on him, never considered Boyd, and Monty just doesn't sit right with me.
Mid changes:
- Really only one change here, and it is a big one - Bont for Beams. I didn't start Libba last year although I was very tempted at times, and I see this as a very similar situation. By the end of the season I want my M8 to be a value pick that I have found along the way rather than one I started. Beams has a long and recent injury history (chronic by what I have read), will be very popular, hasn't played much over the last season or so, will cop the tag if playing well, plays in a weak team and has a new coach - all signs that say look elsewhere to me. Bont, well Bont will go 105 at least and I would rather shut a semi-popular pick like him down from the start than a value pick that has injury concerns.
- Lock in the big mid prems early, don't play the mid-pricer roulette, enjoy the points income, have ample VC and C options and trust the rolled gold mid selections. This is my mid mantra.
Ruck changes:
- Grundy has been playing hokey pokey with Goldy at R1 for some time and will probably continue to do so. Grundy the risk pick but I have a bad itch about Goldy and the Roos this year.
- Sandi for Gawn. Just can't pass up on a fit Sandi, no third man, Fyfe back, lots of early home games and a cost of $300k. Gawn will be cheaper at some point this season and history is against him - I was sure of Goldy being in the top two rucks last season and payed a premium for him, Gawn I am not so sure of.
Forward changes:
- Sandi for Gawn has allowed enough coin for a rookie to Heeney. I have read the Mod thread with interest and enjoyed the over analysis/good discussion (depending on your point of view). Heeney will be top 10 forwards this year, if not top 6. GC Lynch had a brief stay at F3 but has an early bye and is a KPP. Heeney looks to be the logical popular pick shut down move.
Bank: $90k odd
Rookies: They have shifted and moved every time I have read something or picked up a 'tasty tip'. The key thing being I have enough $200k rookies to allow flex if needed (free up coin or not miss a selection) and still have the prem structure I like.
In a month, my team will have changed I am sure. I need to keep an eye on injuries, SC Gold %s and ignore the pre-season games...
Ah, January Sat mornings are all about coffee and SC pre-season - love it. Now to teach my missus, 2 yr old and 3 week old to love it just as much
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Yeah mate the Strnadica F/D at F8 worries me a bit too, you need a way to offload Witts when the time is right without trading in a dead downgrade so a R/F rookie is essential.
I'm not so hot on Swallow, has missed a lot of footy in his short career and is likely to miss a lot more if the trend continues. 2 mid pricers is more than enough for me and with Rough and Sandi, not to mention Adams, Fyfe, Beams & Lids, could mean a lot of spot fires to put out early.
I'm not so hot on Swallow, has missed a lot of footy in his short career and is likely to miss a lot more if the trend continues. 2 mid pricers is more than enough for me and with Rough and Sandi, not to mention Adams, Fyfe, Beams & Lids, could mean a lot of spot fires to put out early.
It looks like your structure hasn't changed a lot here DMCC10, it's more about changing particular picks. A lot of the names you have look quite good, my reservations would be more on the structure.
Your mids look fantastic and extremely deep (Swallow/Myers at M7/M8 would be amongst the best I've seen), and if your M3-5 come off you probably have the best forward line as well.
My major concern would be your defence. I think 2-0-6 is okay as a structure, but if you go with that I'd be looking for much more reliable names to fill the two keeper spots, and potentially the rookies as well. Hartlett and Adams have played 13 seasons between them, and only played 20+ games twice. I'd be shocked if they got close to 44 games between them with that record. Hampton and Scharenberg have obviously had their injury issues as well. Then you have some young guys, and they're obviously a risk of not being selected, as well as the usual injury and perhaps suspension risks. With that combination of players, I'd say you could find yourself having to use trades to avoid donuts very early on if things don't go your way. You're also super deep in the midfield and pretty deep in the forward line, so I think you could easily shift one of those keepers to the backline and not sacrifice much (if anything) and significantly reduce your donut risk. I'd look at names like Rance and maybe Howe, Laird, Montagna and McDonald as options. Switching Adams or Hartlett for one of those names could help as well. I don't think you have an excessive amount of injury risk overall, it's more that I think a fair bit of it is concentrated down back, which exacerbates it.
You've also got a few round 9 bye players, which is probably a little different to most others. I suspect Swallow is intended purely as a cash cow, but he may not be close to his price peak at that stage, so you might have three reasonably high scorers missing that round. It's probably not the biggest issue, but just something to bear in mind.
Good luck.
Your mids look fantastic and extremely deep (Swallow/Myers at M7/M8 would be amongst the best I've seen), and if your M3-5 come off you probably have the best forward line as well.
My major concern would be your defence. I think 2-0-6 is okay as a structure, but if you go with that I'd be looking for much more reliable names to fill the two keeper spots, and potentially the rookies as well. Hartlett and Adams have played 13 seasons between them, and only played 20+ games twice. I'd be shocked if they got close to 44 games between them with that record. Hampton and Scharenberg have obviously had their injury issues as well. Then you have some young guys, and they're obviously a risk of not being selected, as well as the usual injury and perhaps suspension risks. With that combination of players, I'd say you could find yourself having to use trades to avoid donuts very early on if things don't go your way. You're also super deep in the midfield and pretty deep in the forward line, so I think you could easily shift one of those keepers to the backline and not sacrifice much (if anything) and significantly reduce your donut risk. I'd look at names like Rance and maybe Howe, Laird, Montagna and McDonald as options. Switching Adams or Hartlett for one of those names could help as well. I don't think you have an excessive amount of injury risk overall, it's more that I think a fair bit of it is concentrated down back, which exacerbates it.
You've also got a few round 9 bye players, which is probably a little different to most others. I suspect Swallow is intended purely as a cash cow, but he may not be close to his price peak at that stage, so you might have three reasonably high scorers missing that round. It's probably not the biggest issue, but just something to bear in mind.
Good luck.
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*Tweak, trade, tighten, loosen, structure move.*
Its the Supercoach pre-season and as much as I love it, my team gets 'adjusted' constantly (not sure if it is for better or worse)... Here is an early Dec version:
What has happened in the month since asked no-one? How have the marvellous posters at SCS changed my thinking asked even less people?!
Team PC 2.0
B: Rance, Laird, Hodge, McGrath, Berry, Newman, [Ryan, Stewart]
M: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Rocky, Bont, Fyfe, Pet-Set, Foote, [PP, Myers, Barrett]
R: Grundy, Sandi, [Stranarananananada]
F: Dahl, Macrae, Heeney, Scottishsuitcase, Knight, Pickett, [Rioli, Eddy]
Bank: 90k odd
Back changes:
- I have been swayed by the PIT thread (an excellent thread imo) and put Rance in for Adams. First time I have had Rance in my team (ever) and am hoping he pays off through his durability and golden pass. Adams is probably fully priced and can be traded in if required.
- Hodge for Monty. As a Hawks supporter I love The General and reports of him being 'trim and terrific' and knowing that the team needs another mid to fill the big shoes of Mitch and Jordan, I am hoping it will be Hodgey. Have also been swayed by the Rowsus talk of 'just start these types, don't trade them in'...
- Thought long and hard about a 2/0/4 structure in the backs and may go back there (Hodge the victim) if rookies show themselves. I like my back line to be solid and consistent in its scoring, and can see the $550k+ types fall in price and be ready for a trade in. Doch hasn't proven himself, Simmo is old, Shaw I have my doubts over the quality of his team not making the ball stay in the fwd line and a tag being shoved on him, never considered Boyd, and Monty just doesn't sit right with me.
Mid changes:
- Really only one change here, and it is a big one - Bont for Beams. I didn't start Libba last year although I was very tempted at times, and I see this as a very similar situation. By the end of the season I want my M8 to be a value pick that I have found along the way rather than one I started. Beams has a long and recent injury history (chronic by what I have read), will be very popular, hasn't played much over the last season or so, will cop the tag if playing well, plays in a weak team and has a new coach - all signs that say look elsewhere to me. Bont, well Bont will go 105 at least and I would rather shut a semi-popular pick like him down from the start than a value pick that has injury concerns.
- Lock in the big mid prems early, don't play the mid-pricer roulette, enjoy the points income, have ample VC and C options and trust the rolled gold mid selections. This is my mid mantra.
Ruck changes:
- Grundy have been playing Goldy hokey pokey at R1 for some time and will probably continue to do so. Grundy the risk pick but I have a bad itch about Goldy and the Roos this year.
- Sandi for Gawn. Just can't pass up on a fit Sandi, no third man, Fyfe back, lots of early home games and a cost of $300k. Gawn will be cheaper at some point this season and history is against him - I was sure of Goldy being in the top two rucks last season and payed a premium for him, Gawn I am not so sure of.
Forward changes:
- Sandi for Gawn has allowed enough coin for a rookie to Heeney. I have read the Mod thread with interest and enjoyed the over analysis/good discussion (depending on your point of view). Heeney will be top 10 forwards this year, if not top 6. GC Lynch had a brief stay at F3 but has an early bye and is a KPP. Heeney looks to be the logical popular pick shut down move.
Bank: $90k odd
Rookies: They have shifted and moved every time I have read something or picked up a 'tasty tip'. The key thing being I have enough $200k rookies to allow flex if needed (free up coin or not miss a selection) and still have the prem structure I like.
In a month, my team will have changed I am sure. I need to keep an eye on injuries, SC Gold %s and ignore the pre-season games...
Ah, January Sat mornings are all about coffee and SC pre-season - love it. Now to teach my missus, 2 yr old and 3 week old to love it just as much
Its the Supercoach pre-season and as much as I love it, my team gets 'adjusted' constantly (not sure if it is for better or worse)... Here is an early Dec version:
What has happened in the month since asked no-one? How have the marvellous posters at SCS changed my thinking asked even less people?!
Team PC 2.0
B: Rance, Laird, Hodge, McGrath, Berry, Newman, [Ryan, Stewart]
M: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Rocky, Bont, Fyfe, Pet-Set, Foote, [PP, Myers, Barrett]
R: Grundy, Sandi, [Stranarananananada]
F: Dahl, Macrae, Heeney, Scottishsuitcase, Knight, Pickett, [Rioli, Eddy]
Bank: 90k odd
Back changes:
- I have been swayed by the PIT thread (an excellent thread imo) and put Rance in for Adams. First time I have had Rance in my team (ever) and am hoping he pays off through his durability and golden pass. Adams is probably fully priced and can be traded in if required.
- Hodge for Monty. As a Hawks supporter I love The General and reports of him being 'trim and terrific' and knowing that the team needs another mid to fill the big shoes of Mitch and Jordan, I am hoping it will be Hodgey. Have also been swayed by the Rowsus talk of 'just start these types, don't trade them in'...
- Thought long and hard about a 2/0/4 structure in the backs and may go back there (Hodge the victim) if rookies show themselves. I like my back line to be solid and consistent in its scoring, and can see the $550k+ types fall in price and be ready for a trade in. Doch hasn't proven himself, Simmo is old, Shaw I have my doubts over the quality of his team not making the ball stay in the fwd line and a tag being shoved on him, never considered Boyd, and Monty just doesn't sit right with me.
Mid changes:
- Really only one change here, and it is a big one - Bont for Beams. I didn't start Libba last year although I was very tempted at times, and I see this as a very similar situation. By the end of the season I want my M8 to be a value pick that I have found along the way rather than one I started. Beams has a long and recent injury history (chronic by what I have read), will be very popular, hasn't played much over the last season or so, will cop the tag if playing well, plays in a weak team and has a new coach - all signs that say look elsewhere to me. Bont, well Bont will go 105 at least and I would rather shut a semi-popular pick like him down from the start than a value pick that has injury concerns.
- Lock in the big mid prems early, don't play the mid-pricer roulette, enjoy the points income, have ample VC and C options and trust the rolled gold mid selections. This is my mid mantra.
Ruck changes:
- Grundy have been playing Goldy hokey pokey at R1 for some time and will probably continue to do so. Grundy the risk pick but I have a bad itch about Goldy and the Roos this year.
- Sandi for Gawn. Just can't pass up on a fit Sandi, no third man, Fyfe back, lots of early home games and a cost of $300k. Gawn will be cheaper at some point this season and history is against him - I was sure of Goldy being in the top two rucks last season and payed a premium for him, Gawn I am not so sure of.
Forward changes:
- Sandi for Gawn has allowed enough coin for a rookie to Heeney. I have read the Mod thread with interest and enjoyed the over analysis/good discussion (depending on your point of view). Heeney will be top 10 forwards this year, if not top 6. GC Lynch had a brief stay at F3 but has an early bye and is a KPP. Heeney looks to be the logical popular pick shut down move.
Bank: $90k odd
Rookies: They have shifted and moved every time I have read something or picked up a 'tasty tip'. The key thing being I have enough $200k rookies to allow flex if needed (free up coin or not miss a selection) and still have the prem structure I like.
In a month, my team will have changed I am sure. I need to keep an eye on injuries, SC Gold %s and ignore the pre-season games...
Ah, January Sat mornings are all about coffee and SC pre-season - love it. Now to teach my missus, 2 yr old and 3 week old to love it just as much
Would likely invest the $90k into Hodge and pick a more durable player. does look value and expect he could ave 95-100 again, however, outside of 2015 has had constant injury issues pop up, likely 17-20 gaime player.
Value in team coming from grundy, sandy and heeney.......not sure you need to chase Hodge as well.
Thanks GFB.
The $90k is to move Grundy to Goldy but I acknowledge your point on Hodge.
The problem is, out of those above him, who is better? Shaw for sure (see what I did there ) but struggling otherwise. Hodge will be hungry this season I think, maybe worth a gamble as a starter.
- Doch = overpriced
- Simmo = overpriced and old
- Shaw = I have my doubts on him at that price and think he can come in cheaper. Clubs seemed to figure him out towards the end of last season - from rd 14 onwards he only made 100 3/9 times. GWS need him as a backline general and someone tagging him forces him to think about other things beyond playing his own game and telling others what to do. Also, a lot of quality in GWS just got another year more experienced including ZW, so I suspect Shaw will see less of it
- Boyd = no
- Monty = my gut is telling me no with him. Saints are on the climb and his role is too unknown. Should be able to pick him up sub $500k if needed
- Adams = been in and out of the side. The truth is that he doesn't have the game count and that means relying on rookies to cover him. Would rather a better bet
- Kelly = no
- Silk = think he is that touch too old and a role player even though he will play through the Hawks mids
- JJ = unproven, often injured and will be targeted this season
- Vince = tagger, older
- Howe = nope, lost his only attraction which was DPP
- Pittard = think this is his level, not competitive with the big boys in terms of improvement or ceiling
- Gibson = old, around his scoring level
- McDonald = injured? Had one good year and then nothing, not interested
- Houli = butcher of the ball, Tigers are going to have to show me they are better than last year to select him
- McVeigh = past it
The $90k is to move Grundy to Goldy but I acknowledge your point on Hodge.
The problem is, out of those above him, who is better? Shaw for sure (see what I did there
) but struggling otherwise. Hodge will be hungry this season I think, maybe worth a gamble as a starter.- Doch = overpriced
- Simmo = overpriced and old
- Shaw = I have my doubts on him at that price and think he can come in cheaper. Clubs seemed to figure him out towards the end of last season - from rd 14 onwards he only made 100 3/9 times. GWS need him as a backline general and someone tagging him forces him to think about other things beyond playing his own game and telling others what to do. Also, a lot of quality in GWS just got another year more experienced including ZW, so I suspect Shaw will see less of it
- Boyd = no
- Monty = my gut is telling me no with him. Saints are on the climb and his role is too unknown. Should be able to pick him up sub $500k if needed
- Adams = been in and out of the side. The truth is that he doesn't have the game count and that means relying on rookies to cover him. Would rather a better bet
- Kelly = no
- Silk = think he is that touch too old and a role player even though he will play through the Hawks mids
- JJ = unproven, often injured and will be targeted this season
- Vince = tagger, older
- Howe = nope, lost his only attraction which was DPP
- Pittard = think this is his level, not competitive with the big boys in terms of improvement or ceiling
- Gibson = old, around his scoring level
- McDonald = injured? Had one good year and then nothing, not interested
- Houli = butcher of the ball, Tigers are going to have to show me they are better than last year to select him
- McVeigh = past it
Will throw my current team out their. Spare change $1600.
DEF: Adams, Shaw, Laird, McGrath, Ottens, Collins, Morgan, Uebergang
MID: Dangerfield, JPK, Bont, Fyfe, Treloar, Hanners, Wigg, Balic, Freeman, Powell-Pepper, Pickett.
RUC: Goldy, Sandi, Strnadica
FWD: Dahlhaus, Deledio Macrae, McCarthy,McCluggage, Durdin, Leonardis, Greenwood
Opted for GnR approach this season, too many speccy/mid pricers over the years is not good for my Supercoach wellbeing.
DEF: Adams, Shaw, Laird, McGrath, Ottens, Collins, Morgan, Uebergang
MID: Dangerfield, JPK, Bont, Fyfe, Treloar, Hanners, Wigg, Balic, Freeman, Powell-Pepper, Pickett.
RUC: Goldy, Sandi, Strnadica
FWD: Dahlhaus, Deledio Macrae, McCarthy,McCluggage, Durdin, Leonardis, Greenwood
Opted for GnR approach this season, too many speccy/mid pricers over the years is not good for my Supercoach wellbeing.
Fair to say I like this team I have the same structure but with Greene, Gawn, Beams + 145k which could upgrade Beams, where you have JPK, Lids and Goldy but Not sure the fwd rookies will allow it in the long run. If i have to I drop my M6 (Beams) and add a F4 (eg Heeney). I'd rather have Beams/another mid than Heeney but if the rookies don't allow it then same price switcharoo it is.
*Tweak, trade, tighten, loosen, structure move.*
Its the Supercoach pre-season and as much as I love it, my team gets 'adjusted' constantly (not sure if it is for better or worse)... Here is an early Dec version:
What has happened in the month since asked no-one? How have the marvellous posters at SCS changed my thinking asked even less people?!
Team PC 2.0
B: Rance, Laird, Hodge, McGrath, Berry, Newman, [Ryan, Stewart]
M: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Rocky, Bont, Fyfe, Pet-Set, Foote, [PP, Myers, Barrett]
R: Grundy, Sandi, [Stranarananananada]
F: Dahl, Macrae, Heeney, Scottishsuitcase, Knight, Pickett, [Rioli, Eddy]
Bank: 90k odd
Back changes:
- I have been swayed by the PIT thread (an excellent thread imo) and put Rance in for Adams. First time I have had Rance in my team (ever) and am hoping he pays off through his durability and golden pass. Adams is probably fully priced and can be traded in if required.
- Hodge for Monty. As a Hawks supporter I love The General and reports of him being 'trim and terrific' and knowing that the team needs another mid to fill the big shoes of Mitch and Jordan, I am hoping it will be Hodgey. Have also been swayed by the Rowsus talk of 'just start these types, don't trade them in'...
- Thought long and hard about a 2/0/4 structure in the backs and may go back there (Hodge the victim) if rookies show themselves. I like my back line to be solid and consistent in its scoring, and can see the $550k+ types fall in price and be ready for a trade in. Doch hasn't proven himself, Simmo is old, Shaw I have my doubts over the quality of his team not making the ball stay in the fwd line and a tag being shoved on him, never considered Boyd, and Monty just doesn't sit right with me.
Mid changes:
- Really only one change here, and it is a big one - Bont for Beams. I didn't start Libba last year although I was very tempted at times, and I see this as a very similar situation. By the end of the season I want my M8 to be a value pick that I have found along the way rather than one I started. Beams has a long and recent injury history (chronic by what I have read), will be very popular, hasn't played much over the last season or so, will cop the tag if playing well, plays in a weak team and has a new coach - all signs that say look elsewhere to me. Bont, well Bont will go 105 at least and I would rather shut a semi-popular pick like him down from the start than a value pick that has injury concerns.
- Lock in the big mid prems early, don't play the mid-pricer roulette, enjoy the points income, have ample VC and C options and trust the rolled gold mid selections. This is my mid mantra.
Ruck changes:
- Grundy has been playing hokey pokey with Goldy at R1 for some time and will probably continue to do so. Grundy the risk pick but I have a bad itch about Goldy and the Roos this year.
- Sandi for Gawn. Just can't pass up on a fit Sandi, no third man, Fyfe back, lots of early home games and a cost of $300k. Gawn will be cheaper at some point this season and history is against him - I was sure of Goldy being in the top two rucks last season and payed a premium for him, Gawn I am not so sure of.
Forward changes:
- Sandi for Gawn has allowed enough coin for a rookie to Heeney. I have read the Mod thread with interest and enjoyed the over analysis/good discussion (depending on your point of view). Heeney will be top 10 forwards this year, if not top 6. GC Lynch had a brief stay at F3 but has an early bye and is a KPP. Heeney looks to be the logical popular pick shut down move.
Bank: $90k odd
Rookies: They have shifted and moved every time I have read something or picked up a 'tasty tip'. The key thing being I have enough $200k rookies to allow flex if needed (free up coin or not miss a selection) and still have the prem structure I like.
In a month, my team will have changed I am sure. I need to keep an eye on injuries, SC Gold %s and ignore the pre-season games...
Ah, January Sat mornings are all about coffee and SC pre-season - love it. Now to teach my missus, 2 yr old and 3 week old to love it just as much
Its the Supercoach pre-season and as much as I love it, my team gets 'adjusted' constantly (not sure if it is for better or worse)... Here is an early Dec version:
What has happened in the month since asked no-one? How have the marvellous posters at SCS changed my thinking asked even less people?!
Team PC 2.0
B: Rance, Laird, Hodge, McGrath, Berry, Newman, [Ryan, Stewart]
M: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Rocky, Bont, Fyfe, Pet-Set, Foote, [PP, Myers, Barrett]
R: Grundy, Sandi, [Stranarananananada]
F: Dahl, Macrae, Heeney, Scottishsuitcase, Knight, Pickett, [Rioli, Eddy]
Bank: 90k odd
Back changes:
- I have been swayed by the PIT thread (an excellent thread imo) and put Rance in for Adams. First time I have had Rance in my team (ever) and am hoping he pays off through his durability and golden pass. Adams is probably fully priced and can be traded in if required.
- Hodge for Monty. As a Hawks supporter I love The General and reports of him being 'trim and terrific' and knowing that the team needs another mid to fill the big shoes of Mitch and Jordan, I am hoping it will be Hodgey. Have also been swayed by the Rowsus talk of 'just start these types, don't trade them in'...
- Thought long and hard about a 2/0/4 structure in the backs and may go back there (Hodge the victim) if rookies show themselves. I like my back line to be solid and consistent in its scoring, and can see the $550k+ types fall in price and be ready for a trade in. Doch hasn't proven himself, Simmo is old, Shaw I have my doubts over the quality of his team not making the ball stay in the fwd line and a tag being shoved on him, never considered Boyd, and Monty just doesn't sit right with me.
Mid changes:
- Really only one change here, and it is a big one - Bont for Beams. I didn't start Libba last year although I was very tempted at times, and I see this as a very similar situation. By the end of the season I want my M8 to be a value pick that I have found along the way rather than one I started. Beams has a long and recent injury history (chronic by what I have read), will be very popular, hasn't played much over the last season or so, will cop the tag if playing well, plays in a weak team and has a new coach - all signs that say look elsewhere to me. Bont, well Bont will go 105 at least and I would rather shut a semi-popular pick like him down from the start than a value pick that has injury concerns.
- Lock in the big mid prems early, don't play the mid-pricer roulette, enjoy the points income, have ample VC and C options and trust the rolled gold mid selections. This is my mid mantra.
Ruck changes:
- Grundy has been playing hokey pokey with Goldy at R1 for some time and will probably continue to do so. Grundy the risk pick but I have a bad itch about Goldy and the Roos this year.
- Sandi for Gawn. Just can't pass up on a fit Sandi, no third man, Fyfe back, lots of early home games and a cost of $300k. Gawn will be cheaper at some point this season and history is against him - I was sure of Goldy being in the top two rucks last season and payed a premium for him, Gawn I am not so sure of.
Forward changes:
- Sandi for Gawn has allowed enough coin for a rookie to Heeney. I have read the Mod thread with interest and enjoyed the over analysis/good discussion (depending on your point of view). Heeney will be top 10 forwards this year, if not top 6. GC Lynch had a brief stay at F3 but has an early bye and is a KPP. Heeney looks to be the logical popular pick shut down move.
Bank: $90k odd
Rookies: They have shifted and moved every time I have read something or picked up a 'tasty tip'. The key thing being I have enough $200k rookies to allow flex if needed (free up coin or not miss a selection) and still have the prem structure I like.
In a month, my team will have changed I am sure. I need to keep an eye on injuries, SC Gold %s and ignore the pre-season games...
Ah, January Sat mornings are all about coffee and SC pre-season - love it. Now to teach my missus, 2 yr old and 3 week old to love it just as much
Your main injury history players are Hodge & Rocky with the other risky picks being Heeney & Grundy as the breakout candidates. You've replaced the risky Beams with Bont but still have Rocky. Personally I'd probably prefer Beams to Rocky as both carry an injury risk and both are high scoring (Beams probably has the lower ceiling) however, Beams saves you $170k and you can use the loose change to grab a sure fire top 6 defender like Docherty instead of Hodge. I agree that he's overpriced, but I'm confident he'll average 105 at least so you might be paying $40k for that insurance of a good selection. You will still have enough loose change to go Grundy to Goldy that way too.
Just on hodge, do you think he'll retire at the end of the season? Will he get managed? I'm personally not a fan of the pick, especially as he also takes up a R13 bye spot. Shaw or Adams might turn out to be the better options to trade in. I plan to only start Laird and then trade in the best of Shaw/Adams (most likely Shaw). Starting Laird & Hodge in your case might close off Shaw/Adams or a R13 mid like Treloar, Sloane or Titchell. Just something to think about with Hodge.
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Slip V1 2017
D: Adams, Laird, McGovern, Hartlett, McGrath, Newman (Hibberd, Vickers-Willis)
M: Dangerfield, Kennedy, Cripps, Fyfe, Stevens, D.Swallow, Myers, SPP (Berry, Bolton, Graham)
R: Gawn, Goldy (Strnadica)
F: Dahlhaus, T.Lynch, Roughead, Knight, McCluggage, Pickett (Rioli, Eddy)
Defenders:
Pre Christmas I was not going to take a defender over $500k but I have waived slightly. I'm trusting that Adams and Hartlett can both put 20 + games on the park. I was strongly considering Hodge, but I think he will be managed throughout the year to blood the young guys and have a tilt at the finals.
Midfielders:
I've left out Beams as I don't believe he will play enough games as his knee is likely to rear it's ugly head again. At this stage I have Cripps in my team subject to how he is looking with his back prior to round 1. I have included Stevens as my 5th premo mid banking on him going back to his 110 ppg level of 2013.
Rucks:
Going Gawn and Goldy. Sandi is massive value and if he looks good in the pre season games (fitness wise) I may swap him with Goldy and bank the cash. My main concern is that if I start Sandi, don't bank a cash buffer and he goes down in the first 5 or 6 rounds I will have no where to go and my season may be over. Witts may be a backup alternative for a week or so but the points loss will be too great and too many trades needed to fix the line.
Forwards:
Dalhause locked in with T.Lynch who I believe will take his game to the next level. Roughy in subject to round 1.
Rookies place holders at this stage.
D: Adams, Laird, McGovern, Hartlett, McGrath, Newman (Hibberd, Vickers-Willis)
M: Dangerfield, Kennedy, Cripps, Fyfe, Stevens, D.Swallow, Myers, SPP (Berry, Bolton, Graham)
R: Gawn, Goldy (Strnadica)
F: Dahlhaus, T.Lynch, Roughead, Knight, McCluggage, Pickett (Rioli, Eddy)
Defenders:
Pre Christmas I was not going to take a defender over $500k but I have waived slightly. I'm trusting that Adams and Hartlett can both put 20 + games on the park. I was strongly considering Hodge, but I think he will be managed throughout the year to blood the young guys and have a tilt at the finals.
Midfielders:
I've left out Beams as I don't believe he will play enough games as his knee is likely to rear it's ugly head again. At this stage I have Cripps in my team subject to how he is looking with his back prior to round 1. I have included Stevens as my 5th premo mid banking on him going back to his 110 ppg level of 2013.
Rucks:
Going Gawn and Goldy. Sandi is massive value and if he looks good in the pre season games (fitness wise) I may swap him with Goldy and bank the cash. My main concern is that if I start Sandi, don't bank a cash buffer and he goes down in the first 5 or 6 rounds I will have no where to go and my season may be over. Witts may be a backup alternative for a week or so but the points loss will be too great and too many trades needed to fix the line.
Forwards:
Dalhause locked in with T.Lynch who I believe will take his game to the next level. Roughy in subject to round 1.
Rookies place holders at this stage.
Here is my current draft team.
B: Shaw, Montagna, J Lloyd, Thurlow, J Berry, Newman, [$123k, $117]
M: Danger, Pendles, Jelwood, Treloar, Bont, Fyfe, Myers, SPP, [$123k, $123k, $117k]
R: Gawn, Sandi, [Strudelunpronounable)
F: Lynch GC, Kennedy WC, Dahl, Lamb, W Rioli, $123k, [$123k, $117k]
This is not techically my first version. At the end of last season I took a number of players who were fresh in my mind and put them down as the potential core of my 2017 team. Some of them are no longer in the current team.
Backs The original core consisted of Doch, Shaw and T McDonald. Only Shaw remains. Doch became Montagna essentially due to price. Rance was also in the picture as he had games at MCG and he has Rd 12 bye. Montagna got the nod however as I think he still has a season left in him. Also he plays a 10 of his first 13 games at Etihad. Referring back to the players reviews which Rowsus did last year (fabulous thread and still relevant) Montagna goes well on small grounds so he got the nod. McDonald became Lloyd but it could swing back. Lloyd ave 99 in his last 7 games in 2016 (inc finals) and has DPP. I think he has upside. I would hope Thurlow, Berry and Newman get starts rd 1 but one of them could easily become Hampton.
Mids The core five of Danger, Pendles, Jelwood, Treloar and Bont all stayed. During the last half of 2016 I started collecting posts from various SCS threads that I thought had real value in the comments. There is so much info on this site and it is a credit to all contributors. Three things came out of the posts. 1 Durability. As many players as possible must play a near full season. 2 Trading can save you if it is done properly. I am a lousy trader but I am working on it. 3 The value of captains and the value of the high scores they can bring. All of these five have durability. Further I did an analysis of mids scores looking for the uber scorers. The benchmark was at least four scores 140 or more in a season. You cannot get a big captains score if you don’t have that player in your team. So in 2016 Danger (6), Pendles(5), Jelwood(4) all meet that mark. The scoring patterns of players in the 140+ range was interesting too but that is for another time. Treloar (3) and Bont (3 and 4 in 2015) were picked because I think both have huge potential to go 4 plus this season. Fyfe was not in the original core mids but was recently added because he is value and can go huge. However I am still not convinced he should be in the team and he could be out next version. His broken leg is an impact injury not soft tissue so I made a somewhat dubious concession to my durability rule but even so he has only ever played more than 19 games once (2011). Hoping Myers and SPP play. Not convinced by the high priced rookies. They get early games but they don’t score any better than much cheaper rookies in many cases. Foote got the boot as part of the Fyfe inclusion and I hope I am not shooting myself in the foot doing that.
Rucks Gawn and Goldy were in the core team and Goldy has made way for Sandi. As much as Gawnstein is a great combo it sucks a lot of $ out of other places. Sandi is speculative. It is a breach of the durability rule but at his price I feel a little more comfortable. Problem was I could not find anyone else in the ruck I liked to match it with him for value and scoring in relation to risk.
Forwards My core players were St Nick, Kennedy, Dahl. Only St Nick has gone for GC Lynch. Usually try for as many f/m players as possible but I could not find a lot I liked. The only one I did like I dropped as part of the Fyfe inclusion. Love to see Lamb and Willie Rioli in the Rd 1 mix but any number of fwd rookies could show up between now and season start.
Feel free to rip it apart.
B: Shaw, Montagna, J Lloyd, Thurlow, J Berry, Newman, [$123k, $117]
M: Danger, Pendles, Jelwood, Treloar, Bont, Fyfe, Myers, SPP, [$123k, $123k, $117k]
R: Gawn, Sandi, [Strudelunpronounable)
F: Lynch GC, Kennedy WC, Dahl, Lamb, W Rioli, $123k, [$123k, $117k]
This is not techically my first version. At the end of last season I took a number of players who were fresh in my mind and put them down as the potential core of my 2017 team. Some of them are no longer in the current team.
Backs The original core consisted of Doch, Shaw and T McDonald. Only Shaw remains. Doch became Montagna essentially due to price. Rance was also in the picture as he had games at MCG and he has Rd 12 bye. Montagna got the nod however as I think he still has a season left in him. Also he plays a 10 of his first 13 games at Etihad. Referring back to the players reviews which Rowsus did last year (fabulous thread and still relevant) Montagna goes well on small grounds so he got the nod. McDonald became Lloyd but it could swing back. Lloyd ave 99 in his last 7 games in 2016 (inc finals) and has DPP. I think he has upside. I would hope Thurlow, Berry and Newman get starts rd 1 but one of them could easily become Hampton.
Mids The core five of Danger, Pendles, Jelwood, Treloar and Bont all stayed. During the last half of 2016 I started collecting posts from various SCS threads that I thought had real value in the comments. There is so much info on this site and it is a credit to all contributors. Three things came out of the posts. 1 Durability. As many players as possible must play a near full season. 2 Trading can save you if it is done properly. I am a lousy trader but I am working on it. 3 The value of captains and the value of the high scores they can bring. All of these five have durability. Further I did an analysis of mids scores looking for the uber scorers. The benchmark was at least four scores 140 or more in a season. You cannot get a big captains score if you don’t have that player in your team. So in 2016 Danger (6), Pendles(5), Jelwood(4) all meet that mark. The scoring patterns of players in the 140+ range was interesting too but that is for another time. Treloar (3) and Bont (3 and 4 in 2015) were picked because I think both have huge potential to go 4 plus this season. Fyfe was not in the original core mids but was recently added because he is value and can go huge. However I am still not convinced he should be in the team and he could be out next version. His broken leg is an impact injury not soft tissue so I made a somewhat dubious concession to my durability rule but even so he has only ever played more than 19 games once (2011). Hoping Myers and SPP play. Not convinced by the high priced rookies. They get early games but they don’t score any better than much cheaper rookies in many cases. Foote got the boot as part of the Fyfe inclusion and I hope I am not shooting myself in the foot doing that.
Rucks Gawn and Goldy were in the core team and Goldy has made way for Sandi. As much as Gawnstein is a great combo it sucks a lot of $ out of other places. Sandi is speculative. It is a breach of the durability rule but at his price I feel a little more comfortable. Problem was I could not find anyone else in the ruck I liked to match it with him for value and scoring in relation to risk.
Forwards My core players were St Nick, Kennedy, Dahl. Only St Nick has gone for GC Lynch. Usually try for as many f/m players as possible but I could not find a lot I liked. The only one I did like I dropped as part of the Fyfe inclusion. Love to see Lamb and Willie Rioli in the Rd 1 mix but any number of fwd rookies could show up between now and season start.
Feel free to rip it apart.
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Thanks GFB.
The $90k is to move Grundy to Goldy but I acknowledge your point on Hodge.
The problem is, out of those above him, who is better? Shaw for sure (see what I did there ) but struggling otherwise. Hodge will be hungry this season I think, maybe worth a gamble as a starter.
- Doch = overpriced
- Simmo = overpriced and old
- Shaw = I have my doubts on him at that price and think he can come in cheaper. Clubs seemed to figure him out towards the end of last season - from rd 14 onwards he only made 100 3/9 times. GWS need him as a backline general and someone tagging him forces him to think about other things beyond playing his own game and telling others what to do. Also, a lot of quality in GWS just got another year more experienced including ZW, so I suspect Shaw will see less of it
- Boyd = no
- Monty = my gut is telling me no with him. Saints are on the climb and his role is too unknown. Should be able to pick him up sub $500k if needed
- Adams = been in and out of the side. The truth is that he doesn't have the game count and that means relying on rookies to cover him. Would rather a better bet
- Kelly = no
- Silk = think he is that touch too old and a role player even though he will play through the Hawks mids
- JJ = unproven, often injured and will be targeted this season
- Vince = tagger, older
- Howe = nope, lost his only attraction which was DPP
- Pittard = think this is his level, not competitive with the big boys in terms of improvement or ceiling
- Gibson = old, around his scoring level
- McDonald = injured? Had one good year and then nothing, not interested
- Houli = butcher of the ball, Tigers are going to have to show me they are better than last year to select him
- McVeigh = past it
The $90k is to move Grundy to Goldy but I acknowledge your point on Hodge.
The problem is, out of those above him, who is better? Shaw for sure (see what I did there
) but struggling otherwise. Hodge will be hungry this season I think, maybe worth a gamble as a starter.- Doch = overpriced
- Simmo = overpriced and old
- Shaw = I have my doubts on him at that price and think he can come in cheaper. Clubs seemed to figure him out towards the end of last season - from rd 14 onwards he only made 100 3/9 times. GWS need him as a backline general and someone tagging him forces him to think about other things beyond playing his own game and telling others what to do. Also, a lot of quality in GWS just got another year more experienced including ZW, so I suspect Shaw will see less of it
- Boyd = no
- Monty = my gut is telling me no with him. Saints are on the climb and his role is too unknown. Should be able to pick him up sub $500k if needed
- Adams = been in and out of the side. The truth is that he doesn't have the game count and that means relying on rookies to cover him. Would rather a better bet
- Kelly = no
- Silk = think he is that touch too old and a role player even though he will play through the Hawks mids
- JJ = unproven, often injured and will be targeted this season
- Vince = tagger, older
- Howe = nope, lost his only attraction which was DPP
- Pittard = think this is his level, not competitive with the big boys in terms of improvement or ceiling
- Gibson = old, around his scoring level
- McDonald = injured? Had one good year and then nothing, not interested
- Houli = butcher of the ball, Tigers are going to have to show me they are better than last year to select him
- McVeigh = past it
As you say with Shaw, likely to get tagged sometime in the year, starting to look like Birchall of yesteryears, great in the first 4 rounds, ok next few rounds then tagged in latter half of the year. We are seeing more half forwards required to have defensive skills, think Papley may have been mentioned for this.
My Third defender is currently JJ. The reason being I don't see a 90 player who I can confidently pick will push into +95 and I don't want D3 ending up being D6 average in the 80's. JJ in my view offers some upside, not convinced he can easily be tagged (not sure he has an UnCont outside game like Shaw) and in a full strength bulldogs side he does get a lot of the ball (first couple games/final series). Durability is a question as he has had hamstring issues twice, hopefully surgery may have fixed this.
Going through the list, other alternatives may be Montagna if he looks good preseason may reduce concerns, value pick in Hibberd/Bob/Lloyd or maybe there will be so many defensive rookies that we only need two premium defenders.
Only issue is this will require a premium elsewhere and forward line is similar. Beyond Dahl, Macrae and Heeney (who is no certainty to go +95 however is such a gifted player he is worth backing), not sure who the extra forward would be.
I don't currently have Beams so always a chance he comes back into my side.
Grundy has also made his way into my side. Preseason will be important on maintaining this selection. Goldy was initially 1st picked this year as I felt he was somewhat injury affected last year. However, after seeings scores with Daw in the side and the fact North have said they will play Daw more as they were at risk of losing him, not confident in picking Goldy. Daw injury is short term and North also is a rebuild side.
Gawn, despite history of rucks coming back, will have the benefit of the 3rd man rule being removed. However, if I think Grundy could go close to Goldy score for year, better to choose him and hope Gawn comes back in price on one average score.
Expect it will be a Gawn/Beams pick or Grundy/JPK for me.
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Thanks for the comments B18.
On Rocky - he has burnt me bad in the past, but with a new coach I think he has had a rocket put up him. Injuries are injuries not much you can do on that - for me, Beams is a far higher risk with less 200 point games...
Doch hasn't proven he will get to 105 and I don't like playing over $500k for a defender, let alone almost $600k. He will drop in price and that is when you grab him.
Last season I didn't think about byes until a couple of weeks out - look where that got me! I think you need to pick the best players available that suit your team and strat particularly in your starting side. Hodge has too much pride not to be fit, firing and wanting another crack at a premiership. Don't forget that the Hawks finished top 4 last season, and in spite of going out in straight sets (I remember clearly...I was at both the games ), if they had beaten the Cats then I think there was a good chance of being in a GF for the 5th time in a row. Yes, two experienced mids are now gone, but people forget that Mitchell is 34 and probably starting to cause issues in how the team played, Lewis 31 odd and starting to slow down. They have been replaced with gun/soon to be gun young players - who need experience around them and I think Hodge will be the one to give that. I think that although he will have stints in the fwd and back lines, but his main role and function will be to provide leadership in the mids as performed by Mitchell in the past. He may get managed, but expect it will be towards the end of the season and only if the Hawks are setting up for another tilt at a flag.
On Rocky - he has burnt me bad in the past, but with a new coach I think he has had a rocket put up him. Injuries are injuries not much you can do on that - for me, Beams is a far higher risk with less 200 point games...
Doch hasn't proven he will get to 105 and I don't like playing over $500k for a defender, let alone almost $600k. He will drop in price and that is when you grab him.
Last season I didn't think about byes until a couple of weeks out - look where that got me! I think you need to pick the best players available that suit your team and strat particularly in your starting side. Hodge has too much pride not to be fit, firing and wanting another crack at a premiership. Don't forget that the Hawks finished top 4 last season, and in spite of going out in straight sets (I remember clearly...I was at both the games
), if they had beaten the Cats then I think there was a good chance of being in a GF for the 5th time in a row. Yes, two experienced mids are now gone, but people forget that Mitchell is 34 and probably starting to cause issues in how the team played, Lewis 31 odd and starting to slow down. They have been replaced with gun/soon to be gun young players - who need experience around them and I think Hodge will be the one to give that. I think that although he will have stints in the fwd and back lines, but his main role and function will be to provide leadership in the mids as performed by Mitchell in the past. He may get managed, but expect it will be towards the end of the season and only if the Hawks are setting up for another tilt at a flag.
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