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Which mid pricers/JLT bolters will you be starting?

  • Tuohy

    Votes: 11 11.7%
  • Mills

    Votes: 3 3.2%
  • Bob Murphy

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • Beams

    Votes: 80 85.1%
  • Marc Murphy

    Votes: 4 4.3%
  • Watson

    Votes: 6 6.4%
  • O'Meara

    Votes: 44 46.8%
  • Swallow

    Votes: 29 30.9%
  • Sandilands

    Votes: 80 85.1%
  • Witts

    Votes: 34 36.2%
  • Ryder

    Votes: 10 10.6%
  • Roughead

    Votes: 41 43.6%
  • Higgins

    Votes: 11 11.7%
  • Wingard

    Votes: 2 2.1%
  • Billings

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Nankervis

    Votes: 54 57.4%
  • Steele

    Votes: 28 29.8%
  • Petracca

    Votes: 2 2.1%

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A nice team which is a very similar structure to mine.

I like Martin in the ruck & hope he goes just OK over the NAB cup so that more don't jump on him. You've got the same top 4 forwards as me except I have Dahlhaus. Midfield is loaded. Hopefully you've got a bit of coin up your sleeve for Sandilands in case he fails. Your rookies are all fairly cheap and I'd look to cull McGrath for someone cheaper if need be.

A fairly safe team, but solid nonetheless.
 
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Here's my latest draft guys. Rip in.

Shaw, Rance, Laird, Scharenberg, Hampton, Newman (Vicker-Willis, Hibberd)
Danger, JPK, Treloar, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, Myers (Fordham, Freeman, Pickett)
Goldy, Sandi (Strnadica)
Dahl, Macrae, Gunston, McCarthy, Knight, Venables (Eddy, Polson)

33k left. Bye structure: 2/9/7/12

15/3/12, so potentially 15 keepers! Like my rookie picks, McCarthy, Knight, Scharenberg, Myers and Hampton aren't first year players, so should be more up to the rigours of AFL. Think the trend this year will be to pick as many mature agers as possible.

Thoughts?
New draft. 59k left. Which side is better?

Shaw, Rance, Laird, Scharenberg, Hampton, Newman (Vicker-Willis, Hibberd)
Danger, Pendles, JPK, Bont, Fyfe, Swallow, SPP, Myers (Fordham, Freeman, Pickett)
Goldy, Sandi (Strnadica)
Dahl, Macrae, Lynch, Roughead, McCarthy, Knight (Eddy, Polson)
 

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I reckon there is a lot to like here, but there are couple of things I'd flag:

- Your rookies are almost exclusively very cheap. I think most people are forming the view that that won't be viable this year, and it's much easier to invest spare cash than find it just before lockout, so I'd suggest putting some dearer placeholders in.

- 15 proper premiums is always a stretch, but starting 14 that you see as really appealing should position you comfortably well enough.

- On Martin, I can see the attraction, but I'd track Archie Smith's progress pretty carefully. I gather Stef was no good last year when they both played.

- You look very light on for round 12 bye players. Personally I'd look at Docherty to Rance and Stef to Goldy. I actually prefer Rance and Goldy as starting picks outside of the bye issue.

- Most of your starting picks look pretty reliable. That would be even more true if you went for Goldy and Rance. You could potentially look at something like JPK or Treloar to Beams if you need to free up cash, without going too far in overall injury risk. [I don't think you want to take too much injury risk, especially if you're relying on a lot of $130k rookies to be playing regularly, but I do think it would be wise not to bank on that.]

Good luck.
 

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New draft. 59k left. Which side is better?

Shaw, Rance, Laird, Scharenberg, Hampton, Newman (Vicker-Willis, Hibberd)
Danger, Pendles, JPK, Bont, Fyfe, Swallow, SPP, Myers (Fordham, Freeman, Pickett)
Goldy, Sandi (Strnadica)
Dahl, Macrae, Lynch, Roughead, McCarthy, Knight (Eddy, Polson)
Both structured well. Centers a lot on the Beams discussions we were having earlier. Seems like the main difference is Beams M6 vs Roughy F4 (as I think you could squeeze Pendles for Treloar in either side with Venables loose change).

If Roughy works out to be a keeper at F4, that could be the better option as you could save an injury trade on Beams otherwise you lose cash generation & up to 20ppg on Beams as he will score a lot more than Roughy. At this stage, I'm not sure whether there is much difference in scoring between SPP & a forward rookie so we'll leave that one til the JLT.
 
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Both structured well. Centers a lot on the Beams discussions we were having earlier. Seems like the main difference is Beams M6 vs Roughy F4 (as I think you could squeeze Pendles for Treloar in either side with Venables loose change).

If Roughy works out to be a keeper at F4, that could be the better option as you could save an injury trade on Beams otherwise you lose cash generation & up to 20ppg on Beams as he will score a lot more than Roughy. At this stage, I'm not sure whether there is much difference in scoring between SPP & a forward rookie so we'll leave that one til the JLT.
Great analysis B18. I just love having supercoach back, I feel energised! Beams vs Roughy is a tough one and depends on JLT. The extra benefit to not having Beams is I can pick off a mid at their lowest point, rather than potentially having to um and ahh if Beams is averaging 103 and not that pressing!
 

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Great analysis B18. I just love having supercoach back, I feel energised! Beams vs Roughy is a tough one and depends on JLT. The extra benefit to not having Beams is I can pick off a mid at their lowest point, rather than potentially having to um and ahh if Beams is averaging 103 and not that pressing!
Interesting point that. I had great success with getting Gray & Priddis in last season at their low points. That does beg the question though, who out of the $600k mids gets to that low point? Avoiding those guys early might be key!
 

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New draft. 59k left. Which side is better?

Shaw, Rance, Laird, Scharenberg, Hampton, Newman (Vicker-Willis, Hibberd)
Danger, Pendles, JPK, Bont, Fyfe, Swallow, SPP, Myers (Fordham, Freeman, Pickett)
Goldy, Sandi (Strnadica)
Dahl, Macrae, Lynch, Roughead, McCarthy, Knight (Eddy, Polson)
So it is Treloar + Beams + Gunston + Venables vs Pendles + SPP + Lynch + Roughy?

I probably prefer the latter marginally overall, but I also really like Beams. I prefer the structure of the first side, but am not entirely convinced that Treloar and Bont are safe picks to be elite mids.

Could you do Pendles + Beams + Roughy + rookie (eg McCluggage)? That would be the best of both sets of selections in my view. Roughy at F3 may be a bit light for some, although I think Heeney could work as an alternative, especially with a better F4-5 than many.

Good luck.
 
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Interesting point that. I had great success with getting Gray & Priddis in last season at their low points. That does beg the question though, who out of the $600k mids gets to that low point? Avoiding those guys early might be key!
Hmm. I reckon one of Parker/Hannebery? Can see Parker starting slow this year with a dodgy pre-season then going boonanas. Has a higher ceiling than hannebery imo.

Darkie - very good point. I like the idea of Roughy at F3 Bc I do think we'll see most of the top forwards fall to about 450k at some point, to snaffle up. The problem is, I'm wary of batting too deep in the mids and having to upgrade to dodgy (comparatively) forwards/backs.

I think I am gonna pick bont, bc like Dahlhaus, I love watching them play. Gotta have a bit of enjoyment. Treloar to Pendles is a good shout though. The structure is so hard to nail, and so crucial!
 
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Hi all.
Some nice looking teams out there.
This is where im at:
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Its Ryder v Roughy atm. Roughy sneaks in.
Will make way for Mcgrath if he is named. Looks a good player i don't want to miss
 
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Hi all.
Some nice looking teams out there.
This is where im at:
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Its Ryder v Roughy atm. Roughy sneaks in.
Will make way for Mcgrath if he is named. Looks a good player i don't want to miss
I really like this team. Obviously you haven't gone with high priced rookies which has allowed you to fit more premiums in your squad. The only question marks I have is beams and Adams. They are both risky picks just have a back up plan if it doesn't work out. Both will score well if they are playing. Sandi is a good pick but if he goes down you will be forced to make a trade. Overall great team
 
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I really like this team. Obviously you haven't gone with high priced rookies which has allowed you to fit more premiums in your squad. The only question marks I have is beams and Adams. They are both risky picks just have a back up plan if it doesn't work out. Both will score well if they are playing. Sandi is a good pick but if he goes down you will be forced to make a trade. Overall great team
If looking over last two years, injury risk players are Beams, Fyfe, Adams, Swallow, Caddy, Sandi, Rocky, JJ (and maybe Scharenberg).
 
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If looking over last two years, injury risk players are Beams, Fyfe, Adams, Swallow, Caddy, Sandi, Rocky, JJ (and maybe Scharenberg).
Last year I went in the season with the approach to pick a couple of 50/50 players and try to reduce unnecessary trades. I think this year in particular there are a lot of players where we need to consider risk vs reward. TBH I haven't done enough research to evaluate when beams adams and co are sustaining there injuries. I'm not sure if it's the beginning or the end of season. My aim is to build a squad where there's less risk. Sure I'm going to use a couple of players that are 50/50. I think you need to have a back up plan in case your player doesn't work out. In saying that I really like BC structure
 
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Last year I went in the season with the approach to pick a couple of 50/50 players and try to reduce unnecessary trades. I think this year in particular there are a lot of players where we need to consider risk vs reward. TBH I haven't done enough research to evaluate when beams adams and co are sustaining there injuries. I'm not sure if it's the beginning or the end of season. My aim is to build a squad where there's less risk. Sure I'm going to use a couple of players that are 50/50. I think you need to have a back up plan in case your player doesn't work out. In saying that I really like BC structure
I agree, BC structurelooks solid. Few of the injury plagued players are unproven mid price players.

Just need to be mindful the odds add up against you if too many of them. Think ok to pick a few, however, there needs to be upside in the players otherwise why take the risk. For instance, i think Adams may be able to be targeted half way thru the season if looking injury free. Boyd was one of my last upgrades last season as I wanted to make sure he wasnt going to be overly rested. Didnt hurt performance as he wasnt undervalued at te start of the season.

Others feel u either start these players or ignore all season, however, my philosophy differs on this. Each player needs to be judged on what their prior injuries have been and recurrence.
 
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Interested to see how people are looking to structure their team this year. I'm currently looking at 11 out and out premiums, and then 4 injury affected past premos. Currently:
3/0/5
5/2/4
1/1/1
2/1/5

What's everyone looking at?
 

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Interested to see how people are looking to structure their team this year. I'm currently looking at 11 out and out premiums, and then 4 injury affected past premos. Currently:
3/0/5
5/2/4
1/1/1
2/1/5

What's everyone looking at?
I've got the same, except only one returner in the mids. I'm treating Fyfe as an out and out premium and Swallow as a mid-pricer though.
 
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Interested to see how people are looking to structure their team this year. I'm currently looking at 11 out and out premiums, and then 4 injury affected past premos. Currently:
3/0/5
5/2/4
1/1/1
2/1/5

What's everyone looking at?
3/0/5
5/1/5
1/1/1*
3/1/4

In the rucks I've got Stefan Martin who I consider a prem. We'll see if it works out that way or not. Roughy up forward as well who could nearly be considered a prem, but I've chucked him in the midpricers column.

All of my midpricers, all going well, could be prems this season.
 
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Structure changes depending on views of rookies and midpricers.

Current version
3/0/5
7/0/4 Fyfe is m7
1/1/1 Grundy the premium
2/0/6

Options incl dropping hanners/selwood to beams/ainsworth to roughy
 
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Interested to see how people are looking to structure their team this year. I'm currently looking at 11 out and out premiums, and then 4 injury affected past premos. Currently:
3/0/5
5/2/4
1/1/1
2/1/5

What's everyone looking at?
I've fiddled with alot of structures but nothing can be set in stone at this stage without knowing the complete depth of rookies in each line.
 
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Interested to see how people are looking to structure their team this year. I'm currently looking at 11 out and out premiums, and then 4 injury affected past premos. Currently:
3/0/5
5/2/4
1/1/1
2/1/5

What's everyone looking at?
3/0/5
6/0/5
1/1/1
4/0/4
 
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Interested to see how people are looking to structure their team this year. I'm currently looking at 11 out and out premiums, and then 4 injury affected past premos. Currently:
3/0/5
5/2/4
1/1/1
2/1/5

What's everyone looking at?
3/0/5
6/0/5 (T.Mitchell M6)
2/0/1
2/0/6
 
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