Opinion Rate My Team (Team Picker Only)

[freowho]

I see myself being upgrades ahead in other lines, and that one of my starting rucks won't be traded out, but swung fwd as a fwd keeper/ruck coverage. So for me it'll be a genuine upgrade using forward rookies and swinging a ruck into my forward line to get Goldy, then a "when the time is right" trade from Lobbe to Jacobs or any other ruck.

I upgraded to Jacobs in 2015. He started the first 5 rounds with an average of 90 (which is expect Lobbe to top) and had dropped over 100k by round 7. Given Adelaide's draw, it wouldn't be beyond belief that Jacobs was sub 500k come round 7-8-9. That will coincided with S.Martin being at the lowest price he'll be for the year too (Brisbane start with 3 tough, 4 middle, and 1 easier game).

As people can probably tell at this stage although I have not settled a lot of my team my instinct is to set and forget with Goldy and then go the value R2 as the punt. Lobbe appeals. My team picker that I haven't looked at in a while seemed to tell me with other value around the place that Goldy IN was not compromising things anywhere else. This may change as I get fully into it.

I haven't yet seen a no-Goldy team that doesn't appear to have a fairly easy $100K extraction out to get Goldy into R1. Be it Wells F5 or some mid-priced selection. Maybe I simply am not looking hard enough Maybe I just am stuck on him and naturally view any side with Goldy in it as better.

Who knows, come R1 I could have done a complete about face on this one.

Even though you disagree with each other, I agree with both of you!!!

I think rounds 6,7 and 8 will be a discounted rucks smorgasbord, but I also think Nicholls and Lobbe are bad picks, unlikely to be keepers and poor cash cows. The problem with Goldstein is North have the worst draw in the comp after round 9 and 7 of these games are against 4 of the 5 hardest teams for ruckman from last year. If you are waiting for Goldstein to drop below $600k he might not even be the best ruckman after round 9.

I can't see any clear argument with the rucks this year. I like the idea of starting a R/F and moving them forward although you are holding your breath until that happens and if you are going to hold your breath you could pick Vardy who will make more cash than Lobbe. And starting a cash cow at R2 would be handy but can't see a good one this year. I think West would be a poor cash cow at nearly $200k. Dan Currie might work if he gets a good run in the preseason.

Driving my thinking at the moment is that Goldstein is too expensive and I don't want a midpricer who won't be a keeper so I have Martin and Sandi with Tippett in the forward line and no intention of getting Goldstein.

 

[I am Cursed :(]

Even though you disagree with each other, I agree with both of you!!!

I think rounds 6,7 and 8 will be a discounted rucks smorgasbord, but I also think Nicholls and Lobbe are bad picks, unlikely to be keepers and poor cash cows. The problem with Goldstein is North have the worst draw in the comp after round 9 and 7 of these games are against 4 of the 5 hardest teams for ruckman from last year. If you are waiting for Goldstein to drop below $600k he might not even be the best ruckman after round 9.

I can't see any clear argument with the rucks this year. I like the idea of starting a R/F and moving them forward although you are holding your breath until that happens and if you are going to hold your breath you could pick Vardy who will make more cash than Lobbe. And starting a cash cow at R2 would be handy but can't see a good one this year. I think West would be a poor cash cow at nearly $200k. Dan Currie might work if he gets a good run in the preseason.

Driving my thinking at the moment is that Goldstein is too expensive and I don't want a midpricer who won't be a keeper so I have Martin and Sandi with Tippett in the forward line and no intention of getting Goldstein.

Get on board the Dan Currie train with me. $100k cash cow. Can't be any worse than playing a rookie in D / F on the field so long as he's getting games.

 

[freowho]

Get on board the Dan Currie train with me. $100k cash cow. Can't be any worse than playing a rookie in D / F on the field so long as he's getting games.

Just read on the AFL website Eade discussing his forward options saying Day and 2 metre Peter were fighting it out for the second spot and the rest would all be good runners. No mention of Currie.

 

[BigRuss]

Just read on the AFL website Eade discussing his forward options saying Day and 2 metre Peter were fighting it out for the second spot and the rest would all be good runners. No mention of Currie.

Can probably bank on Nicholls missing games throughout the year with his injury history. $163k maybe a bit much to sit at R3 on a "what if" though.

 

[Rowsus]

Currie didn't look up to it, when he finally got a run at North.
He certainly didn't look a Forward option, which leaves him to make a team on his Rucking alone.
I think he will need a couple of decent LTI's to occur, to get enough games to be of any significance.
Even if he plays well in the NAB, I can't see me risking him.

 

[Snowman]

Get on board the Dan Currie train with me. $100k cash cow. Can't be any worse than playing a rookie in D / F on the field so long as he's getting games.

Currie has no place in any serious starting squad other than at R3, to start him at R2 would be close to SC suicide, and don't get sucked into NAB form with this type of player[2nd, 3rd string ruck]as I wouldn't be surprised if he gets decent TOG during the NAB, but can't see that being the case in the real season. If however he was to be named Rnd 1 I think he could be a very useful R3 allowing you to use a M/F 102k donut as Capt loop with the added advantage of also loopholing your rookies occasionally early in the season

 

[jarrad_]

already have a fair idea of who is going to be in my team at this stage

williams,mayes,sheehan,byrne,wagner,adams brown and hartley

dangerfield,pendlebury,ablett,selwood,shiel,rockliff,miles,wines gore,keays,menegola

goldstein and martin wyatt

martin,lyons,anderson,kerridge,keough,petracca hunt and eades

thinking of getting rid of miles for libba or crouch if 100% fit

but damn that midfield

in case no one knows who most of the rookies are im sure they will by the end of the pre season

 

[Pearcey47]

already have a fair idea of who is going to be in my team at this stage

williams,mayes,sheehan,byrne,wagner,adams brown and hartley

dangerfield,pendlebury,ablett,selwood,shiel,rockliff,miles,wines gore,keays,menegola

goldstein and martin wyatt

martin,lyons,anderson,kerridge,keough,petracca hunt and eades

thinking of getting rid of miles for libba or crouch if 100% fit

but damn that midfield

in case no one knows who most of the rookies are im sure they will by the end of the pre season

This structure is flawed. Whilst a set and forget Ruck line is great it simply won't work in the midfield.

 

[Mudflap]

Take 1... with many to come:

Kolodjasnij, Williams, Rich, Smith, Atley, Brown (Rookie, Rookie)
Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Rockliff, Duncan, Gibbs, Kerridge, Rookie (Rookie * 3)
Lobbe, Leuenburger (Cox)
Rioli, Edwards, N Riewoldt, Motlop, Anderson, Petracca (Rookie, Rookie)

Happy to receive any feedback.

 

[manyproblems]

Almost completely settled on this I think. Still unsure on Harvey and Sloane. 28k remaining.

PODS:
Houli I think is a safe pick but unsure if he can maintain his 95 average. Even if he averages 90 I'll be happy. 22, 22, 20, 22, 22 are his games played in the last 5 seasons.

Matt Crouch imo will average 95-100, improved a lot this pre season so I heard. But, but... his brother is 60k cheaper and better! Unfortunately I don't trust B.Crouch to stay fit so I am avoiding him. Libba is coming off an ACL and had some offield issues last year so its a POD not having him.

Jarryd Lyons: Will average 85 imo. Already averaged that when playing in the midfield. Will have to watch nab challenge, has a lot of competition from MCrouch, CEY, Gore and Grigg. I think he is 3rd in line from that list.

I'm running with 6 uber mids (6-1-3) who will all end up 600k+ at some point. Stacked midfield for me this year, no likey premium defenders and a few good fwd rookies.


Defenders:
Jarrad McVeigh [SYD] [MID] ($542,600)
Bachar Houli [RIC] ($516,100)
Nick Malceski [GCS] ($383,800)
Ciaran Byrne [CAR] ($123,900)
Zaine Cordy [WBD] ($123,900)
Mitch Brown [ESS] [FWD] ($117,300)
Cameron Delaney [GEE] ($117,300)
Matthew Uebergang [FRE] [FWD] ($106,900)

Midfielders:
Scott Pendlebury [COL] ($627,200)
Gary Ablett [GCS] ($623,200)
Josh P. Kennedy [SYD] ($594,800)
Rory Sloane [ADE] ($569,300)
Tom Rockliff [BRL] ($550,100)
Ollie Wines [PTA] ($525,100)
Matt Crouch [ADE] ($368,400)
Paul Ahern [GWS] [FWD] ($123,900)
Liam Sumner [CAR] [FWD] ($123,900)
Anthony Morabito [FRE] ($123,900)
David Cuningham [CAR] ($121,800)

Rucks:
Stefan Martin [BRL] ($597,600)
Sam Jacobs [ADE] ($582,500)
Cameron Loersch [GCS] [FWD] ($102,400)

Forwards:
Dustin Martin [RIC] [MID] ($569,300)
Michael Barlow [FRE] [MID] ($505,300)
Brent Harvey [NTH] ($486,100)
Jarryd Lyons [ADE] [MID] ($241,900)
Sam Kerridge [CAR] [MID] ($137,600)
Christian Petracca [MEL] [MID] ($123,900)
Nick Kommer [ESS] ($123,900)
Shane Yarran [FRE] ($117,300)

 

[jarrad_]

yeah i suppose but with their being no "must have" backs and only martin as the "must have" forward and being able to afford the top 2 rucks so much underpriced mids and so many mature age rookies why not at least at this stage

@pearcey47

 

[Rowsus]

yeah i suppose but with their being no "must have" backs and only martin as the "must have" forward and being able to afford the top 2 rucks so much underpriced mids and so many mature age rookies why not at least at this stage

@pearcey47

Not wanting to speak for Pearcey47, or the general populous, but I think the most common argument against your Deep Midfield, is you are robbing yourself of what is usually the most productive cash producing area. You might struggle to generate enough Cash to fully upgrade your team, if you only start with 3 Mid Rookies.

 

[jarrad_]

yeah that is true but i still stick by what i said earlier

 

[Hondo]

Driving my thinking at the moment is that Goldstein is too expensive and I don't want a midpricer who won't be a keeper so I have Martin and Sandi with Tippett in the forward line and no intention of getting Goldstein.

Martin and Sandi at close to $600K ... both with known risks and ageing. I don't see why in that case you wouldn't just splurge another $100K and be done with it taking Goldy? Is that $100K that important to the rest of your side?

I see yours as a 3rd variant on what we've discussed yet the most risky and tying up a lot of cash $1.2m in a couple of expensive risky premiums an attempt to set and forget that presumably rules Goldy out for the season.

 

[Pearcey47]

yeah i suppose but with their being no "must have" backs and only martin as the "must have" forward and being able to afford the top 2 rucks so much underpriced mids and so many mature age rookies why not at least at this stage

@pearcey47

Not wanting to speak for Pearcey47, or the general populous, but I think the most common argument against your Deep Midfield, is you are robbing yourself of what is usually the most productive cash producing area. You might struggle to generate enough Cash to fully upgrade your team, if you only start with 3 Mid Rookies.

Agree with Rowsus. Whilst your 8 MIDs, 2 RUCs and Martin might score you 1200ish plus your captain score you have 11 other players that will be lucky to score you 700 AND will generate you very little cash. 2100 points a week and no cash to upgrade will be lucky to see you in the top 50,000 at seasons end.

 

[Hondo]

Agree with Rowsus. Whilst your 8 MIDs, 2 RUCs and Martin might score you 1200ish plus your captain score you have 11 other players that will be lucky to score you 700 AND will generate you very little cash. 2100 points a week and no cash to upgrade will be lucky to see you in the top 50,000 at seasons end.

I remember a guy on another site a few years back started 7-8 premium mids and he actually got off to a bit of a flyer and was very vocal posting about how well he was doing.

Then around upgrade time he started to stumble and by R15 we weren't hearing from him. I looked up his side towards the end it was way off the pace even though he still had most of the same mids he started with. He just couldn't upgrade his side properly as you and Rowsus have said.

 

[I am Cursed :(]

My first call for feedback. Have at it!

The rookies are placeholders. I have the DPP links set up so whoever fills the gaps will basically be a playing rookie with DPP status. I have really tried to avoid the top echelon of scorers from 2015. In my first iteration I had the likes of Shaw and Ablett but I think the money can be better spent elsewhere.

After reading Rowsus' analysis of the past few winners I have tried my best to avoid chasing points and instead have looked for value premiums across the board.

Daniel Rich is one player sure to draw criticism. At the moment he is in there on gut feel alone. I keep taking him out and putting him back. Brisbane had their top tier players ravaged by injury last season. Hanley, Beams, Rockliff to name a few. My gut says he is capable of big scores and having the A graders around him will help his output.

Kolodjashnij is one pick I really like. I was critical of him early last year but then read Eade's comments about being played out of position early and finding his spot late. He is ceiling is huge, and like Rich he regains players like Ablett, O'Mera, Swallow, Prestia etc.

Mumford could become Martin, but I like him as a POD. I have him every year so I am well aware of how injury prone he is, but I'm also aware of his enormous ceiling. I think the young talent around him is better than the young talent at Brisbane, and you might have seen me constantly posting about how much ruck scores are impacted by the players at their feet!

Anyway.. feedback welcome.

 

[Pearcey47]

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My first call for feedback. Have at it!

The rookies are placeholders. I have the DPP links set up so whoever fills the gaps will basically be a playing rookie with DPP status. I have really tried to avoid the top echelon of scorers from 2015. In my first iteration I had the likes of Shaw and Ablett but I think the money can be better spent elsewhere.

After reading Rowsus' analysis of the past few winners I have tried my best to avoid chasing points and instead have looked for value premiums across the board.

Daniel Rich is one player sure to draw criticism. At the moment he is in there on gut feel alone. I keep taking him out and putting him back. Brisbane had their top tier players ravaged by injury last season. Hanley, Beams, Rockliff to name a few. My gut says he is capable of big scores and having the A graders around him will help his output.

Kolodjashnij is one pick I really like. I was critical of him early last year but then read Eade's comments about being played out of position early and finding his spot late. He is ceiling is huge, and like Rich he regains players like Ablett, O'Mera, Swallow, Prestia etc.

Mumford could become Martin, but I like him as a POD. I have him every year so I am well aware of how injury prone he is, but I'm also aware of his enormous ceiling. I think the young talent around him is better than the young talent at Brisbane, and you might have seen me constantly posting about how much ruck scores are impacted by the players at their feet!

Anyway.. feedback welcome.

I really like this side apart from Rich (who you have already spoken about) and Jack Redden. Swap those two with another two players (ie Matt Rosa and Ollie Wines) and I would be very tempted to copy!

Also not sure that Mumford is rucking to better players than Martin. I would easily choose Rockliff, Beams and Hanley over Ward, Shiel and Coniglio.

All in all a great January side - nice work!

 

[IDIG]

First draft without Fyfe. If he shows anything in the preseason he'll come straight back in though.

I know a lot of people won't like the Berger pick but I will reassess as the season nears. He'll eventually become R3/F7 all things going well. Same as Crouch but from what i've read he's been training the house down so you just know he's in for a big season

Will need to reassess my bye structure as its weighted to the wrong round, especially in the midfield! Thoughts?

Structure 13-3-14
Byes 12-10-7 (7-1-3 in mids)

 

[Pearcey47]

First draft without Fyfe. If he shows anything in the preseason he'll come straight back in though.

I know a lot of people won't like the Berger pick but I will reassess as the season nears. He'll eventually become R3/F7 all things going well. Same as Crouch but from what i've read he's been training the house down so you just know he's in for a big season

Will need to reassess my bye structure as its weighted to the wrong round, especially in the midfield! Thoughts?

Structure 13-3-14
Byes 12-10-7 (7-1-3 in mids)

Nice work mate. I like it a lot. Think you are paying top price for a few of your keepers (McVeigh, Simpson, Montagna and Goldy) but if you think they can maintain/increase their average then that's fine.

A very solid side from a great coach.