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After re-reading the Perfect Supercoach Thread again today , I think I need about 6-8 midpricers in my team so not entirely worried if the Rookies don't show , I know most of those $ 200k - $ 300k price range players are a trap but they may workout to start if we don't have other options , nothing worse than a rookie being dropped after 3-4 games and not generating any $$$.
Personally I think we sometimes get too caught up paying top dollar for players (especially mids) and expecting averages to remain the same from season to season , just need to find the value and hope it all works.
Personally I think we sometimes get too caught up paying top dollar for players (especially mids) and expecting averages to remain the same from season to season , just need to find the value and hope it all works.
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6-8 mid pricers?? I would think 2-3 max.
My version of mid price is 250-400k. Others have it as 300-450k which opens the door for Williams, Mills, B.Crouch, Petrecca, Billings picks to be considered mid pricers.
Personally think:
550+ Gun
420-550 Low priced premium
250-420 mid priced
170-250 high priced rookie
108-170 rookie priced
Would be realistically what I personally categorise them around
My version of mid price is 250-400k. Others have it as 300-450k which opens the door for Williams, Mills, B.Crouch, Petrecca, Billings picks to be considered mid pricers.
Personally think:
550+ Gun
420-550 Low priced premium
250-420 mid priced
170-250 high priced rookie
108-170 rookie priced
Would be realistically what I personally categorise them around
Yeah good points. quite ironic reckons we need 2-3 max. midpricers, and you reckon 6-8. I suppose it comes down to how many good midpricers are available or how many good Rookies present in Rd1.
Regarding: ….nothing worse than a rookie being dropped after 3-4 games and not generating any $$$......
That's the worry, which Rookies have good job security and how many are you prepared to gamble on? That is what I am trying to say about Balta, has he got good job security or poor job security? From what I have read, he appears to have poor job security, so a risk of playing 3-4 games (if named Rd1). Unless circumstances change from now to Rd1, I will be avoiding him, even if it means I start with more midpricers.
Regarding: ….nothing worse than a rookie being dropped after 3-4 games and not generating any $$$......
That's the worry, which Rookies have good job security and how many are you prepared to gamble on? That is what I am trying to say about Balta, has he got good job security or poor job security? From what I have read, he appears to have poor job security, so a risk of playing 3-4 games (if named Rd1). Unless circumstances change from now to Rd1, I will be avoiding him, even if it means I start with more midpricers.
My comment was more directed at the (hindsight) side created in the thread " Perfect Supercoach." , side was untouched all season and came 77th.
Certainly makes you think more about things and that perhaps there are different approaches in picking successful sides.
As for the rookies , who knows if they make the grade and can step up , we can research training notes , forums , media reports , see if there are spots available from injuries , retirements etc etc , at the end of the day we are all hoping the ones we select can do the job for us.
Certainly makes you think more about things and that perhaps there are different approaches in picking successful sides.
As for the rookies , who knows if they make the grade and can step up , we can research training notes , forums , media reports , see if there are spots available from injuries , retirements etc etc , at the end of the day we are all hoping the ones we select can do the job for us.
Interesting to think about and many thanks for the prices ....
So taking it a step further ...
- LLoyd was 479,900 ave 112 and now priced at 608,200 (128,300 more expensive)
- Laird was 550,800 ave 108.3 and now priced at 587,600 (36,800 more expensive), Smith back
- Sicily was 402,800 ave 105.1 and now priced at 570,400 (97,300 more expensive). Swingman role with Gunstan ??
- Simpson was 516,300 ave 105 and now priced at 570,400 (54,100 more expensive). Newman added
- Whitfield was 536,600 ave 99.9 and now priced at 570,300 (33,700 more expensive). Shiel gone, Williams back.
- Hurn was 487,200 ave 96.4 and now priced at 523,400 (36,200 more expensive).
- Crisp was 455,300 ave 95.8 and now priced at 519,900 (64,600 more expensive)
- Howe was 517600 ave 91.6 and now priced at 497,200 (20,400 cheaper)
- Shaw was 458,100 ave 90.7 and now priced at 492,400 (34,300 more expensive)
- Hurley was 563,500 ave 90.6 and now priced at 491,800 (71,700 cheaper). Williams back.
- Ryan was 422,300 ave 90.3 and now priced at 489,600 (67,300 more expensive). Blakey inured
So having put those together my initial thoughts are that the new rules are designed to actually negate some of the defenders in the game at the expense of higher scores ...
- We can all obviously look at the stats and say defenders / defensive structures were starting to dominate the game IMO ...
- So if the perceived 10+ pts for each defenders score per game eventuates that puts them in midfielder numbers ... could happen but I can't see it ...
Looking at in another way the lowest priced one to get in the top 11 Sicily at 402,800
- Interesting that although he had a role change that would bring a shed load of players into contention (new rules though)
So taking it a step further ...
- LLoyd was 479,900 ave 112 and now priced at 608,200 (128,300 more expensive)
- Laird was 550,800 ave 108.3 and now priced at 587,600 (36,800 more expensive), Smith back
- Sicily was 402,800 ave 105.1 and now priced at 570,400 (97,300 more expensive). Swingman role with Gunstan ??
- Simpson was 516,300 ave 105 and now priced at 570,400 (54,100 more expensive). Newman added
- Whitfield was 536,600 ave 99.9 and now priced at 570,300 (33,700 more expensive). Shiel gone, Williams back.
- Hurn was 487,200 ave 96.4 and now priced at 523,400 (36,200 more expensive).
- Crisp was 455,300 ave 95.8 and now priced at 519,900 (64,600 more expensive)
- Howe was 517600 ave 91.6 and now priced at 497,200 (20,400 cheaper)
- Shaw was 458,100 ave 90.7 and now priced at 492,400 (34,300 more expensive)
- Hurley was 563,500 ave 90.6 and now priced at 491,800 (71,700 cheaper). Williams back.
- Ryan was 422,300 ave 90.3 and now priced at 489,600 (67,300 more expensive). Blakey inured
So having put those together my initial thoughts are that the new rules are designed to actually negate some of the defenders in the game at the expense of higher scores ...
- We can all obviously look at the stats and say defenders / defensive structures were starting to dominate the game IMO ...
- So if the perceived 10+ pts for each defenders score per game eventuates that puts them in midfielder numbers ... could happen but I can't see it ...
Looking at in another way the lowest priced one to get in the top 11 Sicily at 402,800
- Interesting that although he had a role change that would bring a shed load of players into contention (new rules though)
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Perfect Supercoach is interesting reading, but absolutely the worst thread to read if you actually want to win the thing. The benefit of hindsight will always steer towards mid-priced breakout picks, when the reality is that, like small businesses, most of these picks fail. Very easy to pick them after the season.
A much better learning curve is looking at the starting teams of actual winners, not backward looking idealism. You'll usually notice 1 or 2 speculative picks, and the rest classic guns and rookies / cookie cutter.
A much better learning curve is looking at the starting teams of actual winners, not backward looking idealism. You'll usually notice 1 or 2 speculative picks, and the rest classic guns and rookies / cookie cutter.
Fair enough we all have different opinions on things.
Let's hope we have enough viable rookies to start (and please no "don't worry they will show up , they always do") to effect the classic guns and rookies approach.
Sometimes people need to try a different approach , at the end of the day there is only 1 winner every season.
Let's hope we have enough viable rookies to start (and please no "don't worry they will show up , they always do") to effect the classic guns and rookies approach.
Sometimes people need to try a different approach , at the end of the day there is only 1 winner every season.
I think Ridley is worth giving strong consideration to. 97 and 94 with good DE can’t be ignored. $233k is in that Marchbank range from a few years back.
Ridley takes kickouts and plays on as well. Has lined up on a wing as well from time to time. Hopefully not a Bonner type.
He was really good in his debut game in the afl last season against the cats.
No JS issues either.
I’m not locked into him, but think he shouldn’t be forgotten! Scrimshaw might be a more convenient option pricewise if he does well again.
Ridley takes kickouts and plays on as well. Has lined up on a wing as well from time to time. Hopefully not a Bonner type.
He was really good in his debut game in the afl last season against the cats.
No JS issues either.
I’m not locked into him, but think he shouldn’t be forgotten! Scrimshaw might be a more convenient option pricewise if he does well again.
