Position SC 2021: Midfielder Discussion

Which ‘keepers’ are you planning on starting with?

  • Neale

    Votes: 48 43.2%
  • Oliver

    Votes: 31 27.9%
  • Macrae

    Votes: 86 77.5%
  • Bontempelli

    Votes: 13 11.7%
  • Merrett

    Votes: 80 72.1%
  • Fyfe

    Votes: 21 18.9%
  • Cripps

    Votes: 54 48.6%
  • Rowell

    Votes: 21 18.9%
  • Taranto

    Votes: 34 30.6%
  • Other

    Votes: 45 40.5%

  • Total voters
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thoughts on andrew brayshaw ?

ive had him for the past month or so, but havent seen many others (which is good and bad)

with fyfe having to play more forward due to lobbs injury, i feel as if brayshaw will have to take control of the midfield, anyone else?

just not sure if im missing anyhting, or if there is just better options?
 
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Yeah I'm qtr of the way through my Risk Assement with matrix, just completed my SWOT analysis for the season and will do a JSA and/or SWMS just prior to kick-off.
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thoughts on andrew brayshaw ?

ive had him for the past month or so, but havent seen many others (which is good and bad)

with fyfe having to play more forward due to lobbs injury, i feel as if brayshaw will have to take control of the midfield, anyone else?

just not sure if im missing anyhting, or if there is just better options?
re brayshaw, expect his CBA's to rise from 42% to 60-75%. Previously didn't have a huge tank so maybe like Petracca a question of has that developed this year and able to sustain increased mid minutes.

Fyfe time forward has been scheduled and apparently not changing despite injuries. Cerra and Serong will be in there and expect 2-3 others will share the role to a lesser extent.

Note Fremantle had one of the best performing mids last year due to sharing of mid time between a large group, that led to higher pressure and teams struggling to score against them.
 
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Pick 3 to start in mids:

In price order
Steele
Macrae
Petracca
Bont
Merrett
Kelly
Fyfe

I've had just about every combo I reckon at some stage. Originally I had Steele, Macrae and Petracca, but it looks like the consensus is going with Macrae, Merrett and Kelly due to the new stand rule which may favour these guys more. I may hedge my bets and still take one or two of Steele and Petracca, not sure.
 
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Pick 3 to start in mids:

In price order
Steele
Macrae
Petracca
Bont
Merrett
Kelly
Fyfe

I've had just about every combo I reckon at some stage. Originally I had Steele, Macrae and Petracca, but it looks like the consensus is going with Macrae, Merrett and Kelly due to the new stand rule which may favour these guys more. I may hedge my bets and still take one or two of Steele and Petracca, not sure.
Macrae, Merrett and Steele (does Crouch impact him) with Bont at 4th. Bont gets the tag and question mark with Treloar in side, seeing him losing some CBA's and moving fwd.

Looking at Bulldogs rotations, feels like it is Macrae, Treloar and Libba with Bont and Dunkley hopefully sharing 50/50. Hunter/Smith to wings.

Petracca tank question
Fyfe awesome start to the season, injury risk just too great. Think he is the last upgrade.
Kelly, good preseason, again, does have a bit of injury question marks. Spread could be beneficial.
 
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thoughts on andrew brayshaw ?

ive had him for the past month or so, but havent seen many others (which is good and bad)

with fyfe having to play more forward due to lobbs injury, i feel as if brayshaw will have to take control of the midfield, anyone else?

just not sure if im missing anyhting, or if there is just better options?
I'll just start off by saying he's currently in my team, but is probably the first one out in terms of a restructure.

Pros:
- Likely increase in CBA attendance rate
- Strong endurance
- Natural progression

Cons:
- When Fyfe, Mundy, etc are all playing, Cerra's increase in CBA attendance comes directly at the expense of Brayshaw's midfield time (look at last few games in 2020). Cerra is said to have drastically higher midfield time this year
- Brayshaw scores significantly higher WITHOUT fyfe.
- Fyfe is said to retain his mid-fwd split by Freo, and that they were looking for direct replacements for Walters and Lobb rather than pushing Fyfe forward more
- Fyfe looked like clearly their number 1 midfielder in the preseason games so far. Against better opponents, Fyfe WILL playin the midfield
- Brayshaw is usually a strong tackler, but has less opportunity with fewer boundary stoppages

Overall speaking, it's hard to gauge on whether his actual midfield minutes will increase or not, because of conflicting factors. The new rule changes also have both positive and negative impacts towards his scoring (endurance vs tackling). I am picking him atm purely for the natural progression and durability, as I'm not confident that other factors will necessarily be in his favour.

Edit: apologies for potential typos, on less than 5 hours of sleep...
 
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I’m not sold on Cripps burnt me last year. I know we shouldn’t look to much in the pre season games. The game he played in looked like the Cripps from last year. Thoughts on this?
From what I saw in that 1st Community game, was the same old from last year, kick to handball was skewed to handball, did spend most of the 3rd up forward. Priced well, has put on weight, and expect him to play more mid than forward. Maybe, they were experimenting with the new recruits getting their flow and synergy in the mid rotations.
 
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From what I saw in that 1st Community game, was the same old from last year, kick to handball was skewed to handball, did spend most of the 3rd up forward. Priced well, has put on weight, and expect him to play more mid than forward. Maybe, they were experimenting with the new recruits getting their flow and synergy in the mid rotations.
Is he in your ten atm?
 
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From what I saw in that 1st Community game, was the same old from last year, kick to handball was skewed to handball, did spend most of the 3rd up forward. Priced well, has put on weight, and expect him to play more mid than forward. Maybe, they were experimenting with the new recruits getting their flow and synergy in the mid rotations.
Is he in your team atm?
 
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I’m not sold on Cripps burnt me last year. I know we shouldn’t look to much in the pre season games. The game he played in looked like the Cripps from last year. Thoughts on this?
Same for me.

Burnt me the last 18 months.
Wasn’t going to touch him this year.
FOMO saw him in my team when community cup started.
Didn't like what I saw there so took him out.
Not currently in my team and hoping to keep it that way.

ps Unfortunately I didn’t like what I saw from my alternate either (Walsh).
 

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Building on some of the below discussion re impact of the man on the mark rule changes observed in the preseason (ie less stoppages, more uncontested marks), does anyone think it could really dent the reign of inside mids in SC...? I’m talking the mids who generally have had very favourable DT / SC ratios due to being able to benefit from a lot of CPs and other SC gold from stoppages...?

I’m personally leaning towards taking Jelly over Oliver, Fyfe types on such basis. Macrae and Neale I think probably not as affected but may have other reasons to avoid them.

Thoughts?

https://supercoachscores.com/threads/sc-2021-ruck-discussion.4532/page-35#post-700117

https://supercoachscores.com/threads/questions-for-rowsus.1063/page-510#post-698628

https://supercoachscores.com/threads/2021-strategy-team-player-discussions.4468/page-123#post-700016
 
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Contested possessions, specifically hard ball gets, are still going to be gold. Players that can pick up those types of touches will always score well.

From what I've seen in the pre-season games, more balanced midfielders that can find cheap outside touches in addition to the hard stuff may see an increase in scoring (Kelly, Merrett, Macrae), and pure inside midfielders that rely on handballing may see a slight drop. But it's hard to tell how the rules will play out in an actual game. Ruck contests may be down slightly because of the quicker game but as the season goes on and players tire I'm sure it'll tighten up again.

Only definitive winners I can see are general defenders who also take the kick-ins. Can see players like Daniel and Short adding 5-10 points to their average with their rebound game.
 
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Building on some of the below discussion re impact of the man on the mark rule changes observed in the preseason (ie less stoppages, more uncontested marks), does anyone think it could really dent the reign of inside mids in SC...? I’m talking the mids who generally have had very favourable DT / SC ratios due to being able to benefit from a lot of CPs and other SC gold from stoppages...?

I’m personally leaning towards taking Jelly over Oliver, Fyfe types on such basis. Macrae and Neale I think probably not as affected but may have other reasons to avoid them.

Thoughts?

https://supercoachscores.com/threads/sc-2021-ruck-discussion.4532/page-35#post-700117

https://supercoachscores.com/threads/questions-for-rowsus.1063/page-510#post-698628

https://supercoachscores.com/threads/2021-strategy-team-player-discussions.4468/page-123#post-700016
Only worried for the first few rounds but after that I think they will be fine. I'd be more worried about the durability and resting more than anything. A few of the insiders will struggle early more so after injuries like Cripps,Oliver,Mitchell and their time management.
 

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Contested possessions, specifically hard ball gets, are still going to be gold. Players that can pick up those types of touches will always score well.

From what I've seen in the pre-season games, more balanced midfielders that can find cheap outside touches in addition to the hard stuff may see an increase in scoring (Kelly, Merrett, Macrae), and pure inside midfielders that rely on handballing may see a slight drop. But it's hard to tell how the rules will play out in an actual game. Ruck contests may be down slightly because of the quicker game but as the season goes on and players tire I'm sure it'll tighten up again.

Only definitive winners I can see are general defenders who also take the kick-ins. Can see players like Daniel and Short adding 5-10 points to their average with their rebound game.
I think I agree with this. There’s actually been an increase in CBs so the CB mids who can capitalize on the outside too will benefit.
 
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