Opinion SC 2021: Rate My Team

[Herbie66]

Heeney's probably in that Robbie Gray category, by the time he gets the midfield role and breaks out he'll have burned everyone and no one will pick it or believe it

Careful when you mention Robbie Gray around me 😀

Absolute elite , severely under rated by the football World.

His work in close in traffic is as good as anyone's in the last decade.

Power need 2 of him , one forward and one mid.

Injuries certainly haven't helped him though , he could have been up their with the Abletts , Dangers and Fyfes.

I don't understand the thinking behind if a player has burnt you before you never consider them again , seems a strange way to approach things to me , just limits you from the start.

I don't think Heeney has ever burnt me , I know what he will give me SC wise.

The way the footy world works Heeney will end up at the Dogs and become the #1 midfielder under Bevo 😀

 

[wogitalia]

Careful when you mention Robbie Gray around me 😀

Absolute elite , severely under rated by the football World.

His work in close in traffic is as good as anyone's in the last decade.

Power need 2 of him , one forward and one mid.

Injuries certainly haven't helped him though , he could have been up their with the Abletts , Dangers and Fyfes.

I don't understand the thinking behind if a player has burnt you before you never consider them again , seems a strange way to approach things to me , just limits you from the start.

I don't think Heeney has ever burnt me , I know what he will give me SC wise.

The way the footy world works Heeney will end up at the Dogs and become the #1 midfielder under Bevo 😀

Gray burned me for the best part of 5 seasons, did his ACL, came back a changed man and then burned me for a couple more when I gave up despite fully expecting his breakout season! Totally agree on an exceptional player but it's human nature that after 4 straight seasons of picking him and then having to trade him away that it's just really hard to trust them!

Heeney is up there for me now, I actually dodged him last year but he'd let me down for a couple of seasons and the pain is doubled of watching him flounder up forward as a Swans fan. Heeney for me could be Fyfe with footskills in the midfield and he has for flashes but Horse would rather him be a slightly above average forward instead. That one doesn't hurt as much as Mills who is genuinely Pendles level imo only we've had HBF Pendles for 3 years compared to that being a 2 month experiment for the Pies!

It's always harder picking players from your own team as well, both removing the hope bias and the extra suffering of their failure being doubled down on! I stand firmly though that Heeney and Mills are comfortably our two best midfielders and they've played about 5 games combined through there over the last few seasons and I say that with the disclaimer that I love Luke Parker but he just doesn't have the speed or skills of those two to add that extra dynamic.

 

[Herbie66]

I assume Fullarton will start as backup to the other talls. That doesn't mean he'll automatically be the first cab off the rank if there's an injury or McStay gets dropped though, they could always go with Archie as a 2nd ruck or possibly use Marcus Adams as a 3rd tall.

Mitch Hinge is another wing/half back to add to the list. The Crows offered him a two year contract after playing three games in four years at the Lions, I assume they didn't do that just to add another depth player.

I am sure you have a feel for the Lions Best 22.

I guess they lose Martin from the PF side , so Daniher indirectly replaces him.

Is Cockatoo best 22 ?

I think CEY came in for Coleman.

Ah Chee , McCarthy maybe

Adams will be interesting if he fits in.

Hinge seems a strange selection , given what they already have HB/W wise (trying to outdo Port) , apparently Lynch has been training up on the wing as well.

Keays was coming off one wing a lot late last season to play his run with role.

Lots of competition for places.

 

[Creeker]

J Lloyd, T Stewart, Z Williams, W Milera, L Jones, W Gould. (J Wehr, A Fyfe d/m.)

L Neale, C OLiver, Z Merrett, R Laird m/d, M Rowell, J Hately, T Powell, N Cockatoo m/f.
(L Valente, J Mead, A Davies.)

B Grundy, B Pruess. (J Treacy r/f.)

R Marshall r/f, D Martin m/f, I Heeney, J Ziebell, J Daniher, J Impey. (J Rowe, C Durdin m/f.)

Not sold on this squad but like the balance.
I can seem to get a deeper midfield without the seagull in the backline, but suffering from FOMO.
Laird in the mids but can go back to defence with Fyfe the flonut sitting there.

 

[BC]

First crack with a 3 premium defence. Had Milera in most of my attempts so far at d4. Seriously don't mind this if there's enough def rookies.

 

[McLovin]

I am sure you have a feel for the Lions Best 22.

I guess they lose Martin from the PF side , so Daniher indirectly replaces him.

Is Cockatoo best 22 ?

I think CEY came in for Coleman.

Ah Chee , McCarthy maybe

Adams will be interesting if he fits in.

Hinge seems a strange selection , given what they already have HB/W wise (trying to outdo Port) , apparently Lynch has been training up on the wing as well.

Keays was coming off one wing a lot late last season to play his run with role.

Lots of competition for places.

Not really tbh. The core of the side is locked in, it's probably just peripheral players competing for the last few spots. Payne/Adams/Lester for 3rd tall defender, Birchall/Cockatoo/Jaxon Prior (potential surprise rookie) for last hbf spot, Robinson/Robertson/Ah Chee?/Ely Smith? for a wing spot, K Coleman vs an extra midfielder like CEY or Robertson. They might be trialing Ah Chee on the wing, Ely Smith got a wrap from a journo training in the same role but someone on BF watched the same session and said he didn't look great?

 

[Herbie66]

Today's thoughts revolve around the higher JZ & Joey start the more issues they may cause , so have rebuilt my forward line

No Big Boy McEvoy

13 possible keepers - JZ & Joey - 7 onfield rookies.

Again have used higher priced onfield rookies for a more realistic view.

D: Laird * , Stewart , Zac Attack

M: Jelly , Fyfe , Cripps , WOWell , Tarantula

R: Gawn , Grundy

F: Marshall * , Dusty * , Heeney , Ziebell , Daniher

 

[Herbie66]

Not really tbh. The core of the side is locked in, it's probably just peripheral players competing for the last few spots. Payne/Adams/Lester for 3rd tall defender, Birchall/Cockatoo/Jaxon Prior (potential surprise rookie) for last hbf spot, Robinson/Robertson/Ah Chee?/Ely Smith? for a wing spot, K Coleman vs an extra midfielder like CEY or Robertson. They might be trialing Ah Chee on the wing, Ely Smith got a wrap from a journo training in the same role but someone on BF watched the same session and said he didn't look great?

I only went back and had a look at the PF side , aside from Daniher taking Martin's spot , going to be one tough side to break into that's for sure.

F.agan strikes me as someone who is pretty loyal to his players , so do the right thing by him and he will stick by them.

 

[Toothless Tigers]

I like that setup.

The only thing is with Rowe & Treacy your forward bench looks vulnerable.

Crows look like they could have 26-28 vying for Round 1 spots.

Stengle missing could open up a spot for Rowe but Jones , McHenry & Schoenberg could also start forward.

They have too many HB/W types in Milera , Seedsman , Smith + Hamill & MacPherson.

Lot of talk about Sholl this season as well.

Can see what you are doing with Preuss as R3 but also with Marshall isn't that your ruck cover if something happens ?

Seems double insurance to me.

If the Cocky breaks plenty of F/M to replace him with.

Nice logic on the more expensive rookies/premium rookies like Young; and Preuss on bench...but it's costing you a premium...I think the beauty of Preuss at R3 means you aim for FDTP rather than a straight FD. Slam chugg there instead at that price or spend a bit more for someone with more later games early on.

Thank you for your responses.

I have made some tweaks
DEF - Moved Laird into the backs
MID - Boosted the midfield with Kelly
FWD - I kept Marshall as I could not see any other reliable premium (suggestions welcome)
Replaced Treacy with Chugg for the link with Laurie

 

[Juzzo]

Thank you for your responses.

I have made some tweaks
DEF - Moved Laird into the backs
MID - Boosted the midfield with Kelly
FWD - I kept Marshall as I could not see any other reliable premium (suggestions welcome)
Replaced Treacy with Chugg for the link with Laurie
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I started only 4 mid premiums one year and found it very difficult to complete my mids with preferable picks. If there are good mid rookies it may work out ok. I don't mind Preuss at R3 personally, if you don't need cash elsewhere.

 

[Toothless Tigers]

First crack with a 3 premium defence. Had Milera in most of my attempts so far at d4. Seriously don't mind this if there's enough def rookies.


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Unfortunately Comben and Kemp are recovering from injuries.

Young gun Brodie Kemp suffered another injury during the pre-season, with a syndesmosis issue to keep him out for a number of months.

North has a relatively clean bill of health minus young forward Charlie Comben. The 19-year-old will face an extended stint on the sidelines following surgery to repair a tibial stress fracture in his right leg.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...s/news-story/9972e5209d31ca3b1fbb9644479c75ca

 

[Toothless Tigers]

I started only 4 mid premiums one year and found it very difficult to complete my mids with preferable picks. If there are good mid rookies it may work out ok. I don't mind Preuss at R3 personally, if you don't need cash elsewhere.

The extra 200K could upgrade Ziebell to Heeney or Duggen to Ryan, I dont have any 400K midfielder I could promote to elite.

I just swapped Campbell to the FWD and Dusty to the midfield using the link.

Thank you for the quick response.

 

[Herbie66]

Thank you for your responses.

I have made some tweaks
DEF - Moved Laird into the backs
MID - Boosted the midfield with Kelly
FWD - I kept Marshall as I could not see any other reliable premium (suggestions welcome)
Replaced Treacy with Chugg for the link with Laurie
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If the rookies show up it might just work , think you might be one onfield rookie too many though.

Losing Preuss is probably your only way to $$$ if some of those cheaper rookies aren't named though.

 

[Juzzo]

I just swapped Campbell to the FWD and Dusty to the midfield using the link.

Thank you for the quick response.

Dusty will have to go back forward at some stage though.

 

[Toothless Tigers]

Dusty will have to go back forward at some stage though.

I plan to move Dusty into the Forwards to replace (Ziebell, Campbell, Impey or Cockatoo).
The strategy is predicated around the mature age forwards increasing enough to help bolster the midfield with a fallen premium.

 

[Darkie]

Hello

Here is the latest iteration of my team

Def - I expect the higher priced rookies to get game time especially Young who is my midfield link to Laird.
Young formally of Footscray was chased by North Melbourne for a reason.

Mid - I have chosen Laird & Dunkley to temporarily fill the midfield before moving to defence/forwards.
Phillips and Campbell should be selected barring injury round 1.

Rucks - I have selected Pruess as R3, for backup injury/condensed rounds and earning potential.
I feel the extra 200 K gives my side surety in the most vulnerable area and I don't have to move a forward asset to cover for it.

Fwd - I have moved Treacy there to cover for when I sell Preuss.
I have avoided Daniher as I expect Brisbane to manage him early on to build his fitness.
It will also take a while for his marking timing/leading patterns to gel as it took Tom Lynch a while to settle in the Richmond forwards and I feel Impey is better value at 20K cheaper

Appreciate any thoughts/critique

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Looks pretty good to me.

My main observation would be that you’ve got a fair few selections tied to your ruck line, including a lot of cash on the bench at R3, and an FD that you probably don’t yet need at F8.

I would consider trying to do something like Preuss to Heppell via Treacy and Campbell. Heppell and Preuss could perform similarly, and you’re better off having those points on field.

You also have quite a lot of cash invested above the low-priced rookies, which makes this a more realistic team than some at this time of year, but you should have good scope to reshuffle if you need extra cash for any reason.

 

[Toothless Tigers]

If the rookies show up it might just work , think you might be one onfield rookie too many though.

Losing Preuss is probably your only way to $$$ if some of those cheaper rookies aren't named though.

The problem I have with the 'Marshall Plan' being used is what happen if Grundy/Gawn are late outs and St Kilda have already played?

 

[Herbie66]

The problem I have with the 'Marshall Plan' being used is what happen if Grundy/Gawn are late outs and St Kilda have already played?

Hope like hell Preuss hasn't been dropped for Mummy 😀 or they are not playing Briggs or Flynn (I think one may be injured)

Seems a lot of money tied up on the bench for a what "if".

Seen others suggesting it though.

 

[Toothless Tigers]

Hope like hell Preuss hasn't been dropped for Mummy 😀 or they are not playing Briggs or Flynn (I think one may be injured)

Seems a lot of money tied up on the bench for a what "if".

Seen others suggesting it though.

I also expect Preuss value to rise and generate some cash

I appreciate the answers/questions regarding my team.

 

[GrainFedBeef]

The problem I have with the 'Marshall Plan' being used is what happen if Grundy/Gawn are late outs and St Kilda have already played?

Hope like hell Preuss hasn't been dropped for Mummy 😀 or they are not playing Briggs or Flynn (I think one may be injured)

Seems a lot of money tied up on the bench for a what "if".

Seen others suggesting it though.

and an extreme what if, plus most other sides will likely cope it too.

If you are going to have Preuss which to me is more about making money than backing up, you are best not having a FD and maximise cash generation as a POD. Otherwise may as well have Treacy and a Heppell/Hately and gain an extra 20 points a week.

We need to be careful to let our anxieties, fear and seeing shadows in the dark drive us to extreme situations. Whenever I have started a mid price ruck I have always ignore a app ruck which has paid off, except for last year when I went Ceglar. was just a disaster where my concerns over picking a weak mid price ruck who gets injured a lot led to two weak players, although did give me a back up.

If iI didn't have the back up I would have brought in Pittonett and picked up his big score. He was crap too ultimately.