Opinion SC 2021: Rate My Team
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I am not sure about Laird in the mildfield. He was the fourth ranked Def last year and with fewer options at the top in def I would be inclined to move him to Witherden's spot and use the Witherden cash elsewhere.
Witherden's role this year will be unclear IMO. Not saying he is a bad player or will struggle to play a game but with the WC mid issues, players could be moved around early in the season including Duggan etc and then things change again when the mid get sorted. But who is going where and the role they have is the question.
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Currently im tossing up between a 12 and 13 premo starting side. They are pretty similar more the most part but the 12 premo side allows me to reach for higher quality rookies and premos. But the 13 premo side theoretically saves 2 trades. ( the rookies were mostly picked through % ownership). For the 13 premo team if I give up a Grainger-Barras or Phillips I can get Rowell to Walsh but im not sure if this would be worth it.
Ziebell at F1 is certainly a possibility , means bypassing Marshall altogether or starting him eleswhere 🤔
I think we get at least 4 starting F rookies Round 1 (no idea who) excluding the F/M ones.
I do like Heeney , so might be Heeney + JZ , Joey & Impey for me.
Maybe can wait for Marshall.
Any Intel on Fullarton at the Lions ?
I think we get at least 4 starting F rookies Round 1 (no idea who) excluding the F/M ones.
I do like Heeney , so might be Heeney + JZ , Joey & Impey for me.
Maybe can wait for Marshall.
Any Intel on Fullarton at the Lions ?
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Looks pretty good to me.
A few thoughts:
- Not entirely sure about Witherden, hopefullly their pre season game is instructive. Other defs look good to me.
- Mitchell seems to have JS an interrupted pre season. He was a lock for me since last season, but I chopped him a while back.
- Green is probably a fraction deep in the mids/a bit midpriced for mine. Midpricers in the midfield have the lowest hit rate in my view - I’d rather pick them up forward or down back. There are others like Heppell who are similar but more proven (obviously some other risks or downsides as well).
- With 2.5 premos you may actually be deeper than some other teams up forward! Personally I find the forward rookies are usually terrible with few exceptions (ie it’s not a deep pool), so it’s an area where I usually start more premiums, but Ziebell, Daniher, Cockatoo and Impey all seem like popular options.
Good luck 🙂
Looks pretty good to me.
A few thoughts:
- Not entirely sure about Witherden, hopefullly their pre season game is instructive. Other defs look good to me.
- Mitchell seems to have JS an interrupted pre season. He was a lock for me since last season, but I chopped him a while back.
- Green is probably a fraction deep in the mids/a bit midpriced for mine. Midpricers in the midfield have the lowest hit rate in my view - I’d rather pick them up forward or down back. There are others like Heppell who are similar but more proven (obviously some other risks or downsides as well).
- With 2.5 premos you may actually be deeper than some other teams up forward! Personally I find the forward rookies are usually terrible with few exceptions (ie it’s not a deep pool), so it’s an area where I usually start more premiums, but Ziebell, Daniher, Cockatoo and Impey all seem like popular options.
Good luck 🙂
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Hello
Here is the latest iteration of my team
Def - I expect the higher priced rookies to get game time especially Young who is my midfield link to Laird.
Young formally of Footscray was chased by North Melbourne for a reason.
Mid - I have chosen Laird & Dunkley to temporarily fill the midfield before moving to defence/forwards.
Phillips and Campbell should be selected barring injury round 1.
Rucks - I have selected Pruess as R3, for backup injury/condensed rounds and earning potential.
I feel the extra 200 K gives my side surety in the most vulnerable area and I don't have to move a forward asset to cover for it.
Fwd - I have moved Treacy there to cover for when I sell Preuss.
I have avoided Daniher as I expect Brisbane to manage him early on to build his fitness.
It will also take a while for his marking timing/leading patterns to gel as it took Tom Lynch a while to settle in the Richmond forwards and I feel Impey is better value at 20K cheaper
Appreciate any thoughts/critique
Here is the latest iteration of my team
Def - I expect the higher priced rookies to get game time especially Young who is my midfield link to Laird.
Young formally of Footscray was chased by North Melbourne for a reason.
Mid - I have chosen Laird & Dunkley to temporarily fill the midfield before moving to defence/forwards.
Phillips and Campbell should be selected barring injury round 1.
Rucks - I have selected Pruess as R3, for backup injury/condensed rounds and earning potential.
I feel the extra 200 K gives my side surety in the most vulnerable area and I don't have to move a forward asset to cover for it.
Fwd - I have moved Treacy there to cover for when I sell Preuss.
I have avoided Daniher as I expect Brisbane to manage him early on to build his fitness.
It will also take a while for his marking timing/leading patterns to gel as it took Tom Lynch a while to settle in the Richmond forwards and I feel Impey is better value at 20K cheaper
Appreciate any thoughts/critique
Haven't followed the Lions a lot, basically just checking on Berry (no good news), Clug (solid), Neale (radio silence which is worrying me), Daniher (great), Cockatoo (solid) and Zorko (nothing good). Few of the young guys seem popular with some of the fans but haven't heard Fullarton. I'd think the Lions would be going Daniher as 2nd ruck, they've backed their incredible medical staff in and its paid off before so expect them to do it again.
Marshall for me feels like a least bad option in the forwards rather than a player I'm picking because I want to pick. I think his ratio last year was kind of insane, I'd watch him thinking he's having little impact and still it would be right up there. I think he's on the short list of guys whose contributions got significantly overstated by the shortened quarters. Not sure how it holds up over longer quarters.
The only real positive I find on Marshall is Ryder's durability and the glorious role that awaits him should Ryder be hurt but that's the kind of thing that you can trade around if it happens so not really a reason to start him.
Ultimately I just don't like the forward premiums.
Danger - Cameron, injury cloud, role problems.
Sidebottom - Anomaly scoring last year, overpriced. He does have the Treloar move though as a positive which could lead to backing up this season. (3rd as a starting option for mine right now).
Hawkins - Cameron, inconsistent history.
Dunkley - Role issues, Treloar change, feels overpriced compared to how he played last year.
Martin - Consistently starts badly and is available for a lot cheaper. He's basically exactly what you want in an upgrade (doesn't make him a bad starting pick).
Walters - Injury issues already, durability in general, kids are coming for his midfield minutes.
Zorko - Limited preseason, calf injury at his age, his age, kids are coming for his midfield minutes.
I can barely even spin upside on a couple of those guys. Marshall with his DPP and least bad tag is ending up as my top forward but it just doesn't feel like a good pick!
Marshall for me feels like a least bad option in the forwards rather than a player I'm picking because I want to pick. I think his ratio last year was kind of insane, I'd watch him thinking he's having little impact and still it would be right up there. I think he's on the short list of guys whose contributions got significantly overstated by the shortened quarters. Not sure how it holds up over longer quarters.
The only real positive I find on Marshall is Ryder's durability and the glorious role that awaits him should Ryder be hurt but that's the kind of thing that you can trade around if it happens so not really a reason to start him.
Ultimately I just don't like the forward premiums.
Danger - Cameron, injury cloud, role problems.
Sidebottom - Anomaly scoring last year, overpriced. He does have the Treloar move though as a positive which could lead to backing up this season. (3rd as a starting option for mine right now).
Hawkins - Cameron, inconsistent history.
Dunkley - Role issues, Treloar change, feels overpriced compared to how he played last year.
Martin - Consistently starts badly and is available for a lot cheaper. He's basically exactly what you want in an upgrade (doesn't make him a bad starting pick).
Walters - Injury issues already, durability in general, kids are coming for his midfield minutes.
Zorko - Limited preseason, calf injury at his age, his age, kids are coming for his midfield minutes.
I can barely even spin upside on a couple of those guys. Marshall with his DPP and least bad tag is ending up as my top forward but it just doesn't feel like a good pick!
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I've noticed a small recurring pattern
I see a lot of people going either
Rowell/Walsh/Dunkley
or
Oliver/Petracca/Jelly/Gaff
or
Danger/Dusty/Marshell
It seems to me that these guys attract the attention of you pros, so therefore i should also look at them
so ive come up with short summaries that might help me choose some good prems and hopefully you guys too if you haven't already thought of these reasons
-Oliver hurt me last year, but Petrarca never let me down yet i don't know which to start since both play mid now
-Marshall seems to have made a name for himself in the FWD line, But Dusty is a magnet to basically everything in the game(when he feels like it), Danger is a bit of a wild card since he usually gives good results just depends on whether the rest of the team wants to win.
-Jelly hurt me too last year but he seems to be made of glass, and glass can cut you deeply in this game
-Rowell had big scores last year, just a bit worried that injury might've scared him a little, Walsh is his usual self, Dunkley was great last year but the Dogs seem to have a few too many Mids for my liking
-Gaff I'm not sold on but if he starts to shine a little more i might consider him
If anyone could help me sort through this lot, id appreciate it a lot
Also, what's everyone's thoughts on Tom Hird?
And how much cash is preferably the best to go into Rd1 with?
When ive figured out my preseason/rd1 team ill send a screenshot
I see a lot of people going either
Rowell/Walsh/Dunkley
or
Oliver/Petracca/Jelly/Gaff
or
Danger/Dusty/Marshell
It seems to me that these guys attract the attention of you pros, so therefore i should also look at them
so ive come up with short summaries that might help me choose some good prems and hopefully you guys too if you haven't already thought of these reasons
-Oliver hurt me last year, but Petrarca never let me down yet i don't know which to start since both play mid now
-Marshall seems to have made a name for himself in the FWD line, But Dusty is a magnet to basically everything in the game(when he feels like it), Danger is a bit of a wild card since he usually gives good results just depends on whether the rest of the team wants to win.
-Jelly hurt me too last year but he seems to be made of glass, and glass can cut you deeply in this game
-Rowell had big scores last year, just a bit worried that injury might've scared him a little, Walsh is his usual self, Dunkley was great last year but the Dogs seem to have a few too many Mids for my liking
-Gaff I'm not sold on but if he starts to shine a little more i might consider him
If anyone could help me sort through this lot, id appreciate it a lot
Also, what's everyone's thoughts on Tom Hird?
And how much cash is preferably the best to go into Rd1 with?
When ive figured out my preseason/rd1 team ill send a screenshot
Can't remember where I read about Fullarton now , was glowing...... but Big O , Hipwood , Joey , McStay & Fullarton certainly won't work altogether.
Think Archie Smith is still on their list as well.
Forwards seemingly feel like a wait and see approach and then pick up the best 6 at the appropriate time.
Although if anything happens to JZ , Joey & Impey between now and Round 1 we could all be in chaos 😀
I feel a lot are picking Marshall if they need short term ruck cover (even though it is F7 providing the actual cover) as their main reason.
Heeney to me looks extreme value , and no reason why he can't replicate his scoring history.
Unlike a lot I understand his role in the team and how that affects his SC scoring , I think too many expect (hope) he is/was going to be a full time mid , hasn't happened by now , don't think it will and doesn't need to , can perform in other positions.
Great summary of the forwards.
It's funny this time last year we had 12-20 breakout contenders in the forward line (I still picked TJL) , while this year it is the defenders line that have all the break out options.
Think Archie Smith is still on their list as well.
Forwards seemingly feel like a wait and see approach and then pick up the best 6 at the appropriate time.
Although if anything happens to JZ , Joey & Impey between now and Round 1 we could all be in chaos 😀
I feel a lot are picking Marshall if they need short term ruck cover (even though it is F7 providing the actual cover) as their main reason.
Heeney to me looks extreme value , and no reason why he can't replicate his scoring history.
Unlike a lot I understand his role in the team and how that affects his SC scoring , I think too many expect (hope) he is/was going to be a full time mid , hasn't happened by now , don't think it will and doesn't need to , can perform in other positions.
Great summary of the forwards.
It's funny this time last year we had 12-20 breakout contenders in the forward line (I still picked TJL) , while this year it is the defenders line that have all the break out options.
I like that setup.
The only thing is with Rowe & Treacy your forward bench looks vulnerable.
Crows look like they could have 26-28 vying for Round 1 spots.
Stengle missing could open up a spot for Rowe but Jones , McHenry & Schoenberg could also start forward.
They have too many HB/W types in Milera , Seedsman , Smith + Hamill & MacPherson.
Lot of talk about Sholl this season as well.
Can see what you are doing with Preuss as R3 but also with Marshall isn't that your ruck cover if something happens ?
Seems double insurance to me.
If the Cocky breaks plenty of F/M to replace him with.
The only thing is with Rowe & Treacy your forward bench looks vulnerable.
Crows look like they could have 26-28 vying for Round 1 spots.
Stengle missing could open up a spot for Rowe but Jones , McHenry & Schoenberg could also start forward.
They have too many HB/W types in Milera , Seedsman , Smith + Hamill & MacPherson.
Lot of talk about Sholl this season as well.
Can see what you are doing with Preuss as R3 but also with Marshall isn't that your ruck cover if something happens ?
Seems double insurance to me.
If the Cocky breaks plenty of F/M to replace him with.
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Nice logic on the more expensive rookies/premium rookies like Young; and Preuss on bench...but it's costing you a premium...I think the beauty of Preuss at R3 means you aim for FDTP rather than a straight FD. Slam chugg there instead at that price or spend a bit more for someone with more later games early on.
I assume Fullarton will start as backup to the other talls. That doesn't mean he'll automatically be the first cab off the rank if there's an injury or McStay gets dropped though, they could always go with Archie as a 2nd ruck or possibly use Marcus Adams as a 3rd tall.
Mitch Hinge is another wing/half back to add to the list. The Crows offered him a two year contract after playing three games in four years at the Lions, I assume they didn't do that just to add another depth player.
Mitch Hinge is another wing/half back to add to the list. The Crows offered him a two year contract after playing three games in four years at the Lions, I assume they didn't do that just to add another depth player.