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Strategy 2024: Round 4 Trades
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Thanks Adrian for your thoughts as always. Yep agree on most suggestions, Hollands could definitely wait a week, I probably will change Coffield for Phillips. My thinking was Coffield is a guaranteed donut all season for captain usage. Phillips I hear is not up to the level required yet. So not sure when he might be ready or an opportunity arises. Powell is a high scorer and I'm curious as to how he performs under my leadership. I'm not too fussed having 5 premiums in the backline, plus there's no one putting their hand up from a rookie perspective, so I feel more comfortable with D'Ambrosio at D6.
Flanders is a great pick and his DPP is invaluable, but I'm banking against his high ownership. Jordon is maxed out with $11k coming, happy to use his cash elsewhere. Not sold on Darcy due to Bevo and Lobb in the background, but, can't go past the cash gen. Thomas looks likely, but, I see he is listed on the bench. Could be sub candidate, plus last game could be an anomaly due to playing WC.
Plan is to remove Sexton next week pending selection as I stuffed up with Burgess this week, Mannagh will go eventually.
Flanders is a great pick and his DPP is invaluable, but I'm banking against his high ownership. Jordon is maxed out with $11k coming, happy to use his cash elsewhere. Not sold on Darcy due to Bevo and Lobb in the background, but, can't go past the cash gen. Thomas looks likely, but, I see he is listed on the bench. Could be sub candidate, plus last game could be an anomaly due to playing WC.
Plan is to remove Sexton next week pending selection as I stuffed up with Burgess this week, Mannagh will go eventually.
Thanks for the well wishes. 
Right back at ya.
I'll split this response up because it was looking pretty ranty when I proof read it just now.
Overall cash generation:
Wilson may have that spike game in him and it might be this week. He could make 50k this week you say? Well yeah but he'd need to hit 100+ probably with that 25 in his score for the next fortnight and he hasn't shown anything like 100 points ability but ok. He might do it this week. Or it might be in round 10. Or his ceiling might really be the 66 that constitutes his highest score so far. He could get to 300k eventually and well done if that's the case. It is likely to be a good 6 weeks time and it might turn out to be excellent timing but I can't predict rookies that far into the future so I'll play the odds on this one.
Quality rookies and MPs:
You can't have all the rookies and MPs. But you do want the best ones. The "best" is a guessing game. My original guess appears so far to be wrong (Wilson over Dempsey). Do I stick manfully to that guess or do I fix it? (Admittedly... I'm only hoping that this is fixing it!)
Rookie timing:
The point of the earlier post is that sure, overall cash generation is important but the timing is just as important. And I don't think coaches, especially on this site, give enough attention to it.
You know when we're picking our starting lineups and someone says "I'll just fade Smith over there because he always starts slowly and I can pick him up cheaper after he puts in his 50"?
The response is usually "But you never have the sort of cash you need to pull off those sorts of trades early in the season. You can't fade Smith!"
Probably because most of us remain in the 20 trades mindset of maxing out those rookies and waiting patiently for the slow burners. Or because we have so few fast burners that "you can't trade them yet! They've got 100k to go!"
Having more fast burners allows you flexibility in getting that fallen premo. He puts in his signal tonne or two that flags his return to grace and boy, you wanna have your precious cash cows ready to grab him. You know the feeling. Holding on to stalled rookies only exacerbates the risk and the problem once manifested.
Example:
We have a suite of uber premiums coming in in the next 3 weeks in Daicos, Dawson and perhaps Oliver. JHF as a forward is already being mooted in a year when having the right forwards, even early season rookies is offering us a massive edge on the comp. How many of them are you going to want to be in a position to get?
Here's what's going to happen from my perspective:
There will be 2 premiums getable and maybe a couple of breakout contenders in the 500ks. Possibly more if Anderson/Rowell haven't gotten away from us. Stewart is giving non-owners a bit of a look by his standards,
In order to get these players I want to be able to 1 down 1 up couple of 300 - 350k rookies/MPs yeah? The list of likely candidates on my squad runs to: Mass, Williams, Roberts, McKercher, H Reid and Sanders. Maybe Cadman and Carroll
I doubt the number of fresh rookies gettable at that point will allow to 1 down 1 up 4 times, sure. I won't even want to cull all my cash cows that early. But each time I cull a couple, I'm exposing another onfield spot to the likes of Wilson and his 26 point risk. I don't know which of my rookies won't be available so I can't just wish the problem away with a vague plan around looping him. I want some sort of reliability. I'm not just spending a trade and early capital (which I have no need for a fortnight) to hitch a ride on a rookie I might have missed. I'm spending a trade and cash I don't need this fortnight on the midpricer I hope to shore up onfield position 22 for a month and a half.
Ideally, he will then make a fine stepping stone.
So I'll play the odds. Upgrade into the 21 year old "rookie" mid pricer who hasn't yet shown a proclivity to pooping the bed like Wilson just did. Yes, Dempsey's draw might be tightening up a bit. But Wilson got his 26 against Essendon.
Good luck to all Wilson holders. There are a lot of you. Sorry to all Demspey holders. An essay like this can only mean one thing for his immediate future scoring.
Right back at ya.I'll split this response up because it was looking pretty ranty when I proof read it just now.
Overall cash generation:
Wilson may have that spike game in him and it might be this week. He could make 50k this week you say? Well yeah but he'd need to hit 100+ probably with that 25 in his score for the next fortnight and he hasn't shown anything like 100 points ability but ok. He might do it this week. Or it might be in round 10. Or his ceiling might really be the 66 that constitutes his highest score so far. He could get to 300k eventually and well done if that's the case. It is likely to be a good 6 weeks time and it might turn out to be excellent timing but I can't predict rookies that far into the future so I'll play the odds on this one.
Quality rookies and MPs:
You can't have all the rookies and MPs. But you do want the best ones. The "best" is a guessing game. My original guess appears so far to be wrong (Wilson over Dempsey). Do I stick manfully to that guess or do I fix it? (Admittedly... I'm only hoping that this is fixing it!)
Rookie timing:
The point of the earlier post is that sure, overall cash generation is important but the timing is just as important. And I don't think coaches, especially on this site, give enough attention to it.
You know when we're picking our starting lineups and someone says "I'll just fade Smith over there because he always starts slowly and I can pick him up cheaper after he puts in his 50"?
The response is usually "But you never have the sort of cash you need to pull off those sorts of trades early in the season. You can't fade Smith!"
Probably because most of us remain in the 20 trades mindset of maxing out those rookies and waiting patiently for the slow burners. Or because we have so few fast burners that "you can't trade them yet! They've got 100k to go!"
Having more fast burners allows you flexibility in getting that fallen premo. He puts in his signal tonne or two that flags his return to grace and boy, you wanna have your precious cash cows ready to grab him. You know the feeling. Holding on to stalled rookies only exacerbates the risk and the problem once manifested.
Example:
We have a suite of uber premiums coming in in the next 3 weeks in Daicos, Dawson and perhaps Oliver. JHF as a forward is already being mooted in a year when having the right forwards, even early season rookies is offering us a massive edge on the comp. How many of them are you going to want to be in a position to get?
Here's what's going to happen from my perspective:
There will be 2 premiums getable and maybe a couple of breakout contenders in the 500ks. Possibly more if Anderson/Rowell haven't gotten away from us. Stewart is giving non-owners a bit of a look by his standards,
In order to get these players I want to be able to 1 down 1 up couple of 300 - 350k rookies/MPs yeah? The list of likely candidates on my squad runs to: Mass, Williams, Roberts, McKercher, H Reid and Sanders. Maybe Cadman and Carroll
I doubt the number of fresh rookies gettable at that point will allow to 1 down 1 up 4 times, sure. I won't even want to cull all my cash cows that early. But each time I cull a couple, I'm exposing another onfield spot to the likes of Wilson and his 26 point risk. I don't know which of my rookies won't be available so I can't just wish the problem away with a vague plan around looping him. I want some sort of reliability. I'm not just spending a trade and early capital (which I have no need for a fortnight) to hitch a ride on a rookie I might have missed. I'm spending a trade and cash I don't need this fortnight on the midpricer I hope to shore up onfield position 22 for a month and a half.
Ideally, he will then make a fine stepping stone.
So I'll play the odds. Upgrade into the 21 year old "rookie" mid pricer who hasn't yet shown a proclivity to pooping the bed like Wilson just did. Yes, Dempsey's draw might be tightening up a bit. But Wilson got his 26 against Essendon.
Good luck to all Wilson holders. There are a lot of you. Sorry to all Demspey holders. An essay like this can only mean one thing for his immediate future scoring.
I think we're still at the part where rookies decide our structure. Not as much perhaps as before round 1 because we have an idea now on who our mid and premium bolters might be but we should still be near totally in cash generation mode.
If his view on the defensive rookie situation is horrid compared to elsewhere then yeah... he should build his back line first.
Should Mitch Duncan be a part of that build? Well that's a different conversation!
If his view on the defensive rookie situation is horrid compared to elsewhere then yeah... he should build his back line first.
Should Mitch Duncan be a part of that build? Well that's a different conversation!
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Painful watch this game... Feel Powell is more of an AF player than SC.. The tackles aren't a bad thing but some disposals would be nice
McKercher 3 running bounces should help his score there
McKercher 3 running bounces should help his score there
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Surely Combden is in for the season after that game if they are serious about developing players.. Yes he won't dominate like that every week with 25 touches but his marking looks elite and an intercept mark is great for supercoach.. I guess we probably watch him next in a tough matchup vs Geelong in Geelong and see if he can at least show good signs again?? I definately like the look of Lohnmann but and probably will go from Fisher to him next week.. looks a natural footballer and should get a good run at it now... Zac Bailey probably out as well with a more severe injury than Neale and a 6 day break for dees game.... and even with him in I'd say Lohmann showed enough for high job security now...