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Do you start a $669k Gawn?

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Big chance that Coleman misses a couple of the early games, would make him an ideal target coming off his early bye. Would that then make Naicos more attractive?

I'm only asking as that is what I'm thinking of doing.
If Coleman isn’t playing round one, I’d 100% look at Naicos!
Naicos will almost certainly be a top 8 mid and could even be the highest scoring player in the game by the end of next season so there’s no doubt in my mind that you’ll need him in your side early so if Coleman isn’t ready, I’d definitely drop him to a rookie and upgrade Oliver or Petracca to Naicos!
(Even typing this message out is making me have FOMO :ROFLMAO::cry:)
 
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If Coleman isn’t playing round one, I’d 100% look at Naicos!
Naicos will almost certainly be a top 8 mid and could even be the highest scoring player in the game by the end of next season so there’s no doubt in my mind that you’ll need him in your side early so if Coleman isn’t ready, I’d definitely drop him to a rookie and upgrade Oliver or Petracca to Naicos!
(Even typing this message out is making me have FOMO :ROFLMAO::cry:)
Yeh no thanks. If Cincotta was fit he would get him and Jordon straight out of the bye. Cox may have other plans but it works.
 
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Anyone interested in Briggs as their R2. I'm thinking of taking him because he has no opposition for number 1 ruck role at GWS, playing in a strong side who will win more games than lose and hopefully will bounce back from last year's down year🤞
 
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Anyone interested in Briggs as their R2. I'm thinking of taking him because he no opposition for number 1 ruck role at GWS, playing in a strong side who will win more games than lose and hopefully will bounce back from last year's down year🤞
Not enough value there with two byes.

He has a decent run after the first bye in Meek, Flynn/Williams, Marshall/Boyd and ROB.
 
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Anyone interested in Briggs as their R2. I'm thinking of taking him because he no opposition for number 1 ruck role at GWS, playing in a strong side who will win more games than lose and hopefully will bounce back from last year's down year🤞
Can't see it myself. Durability is a big issue but the bye is a bigger issue, just can't see him beating other similarly priced rucks by 10 points a week in the first 6 games to make up that bye. He's a bit underpriced but I'm not sold he's physically capable of playing 23 games and he needs to be 10 points better than those without the bye, the value does mean he can be a bit worse than the top guys but you're cancelling 10 points of the value out.

Really hard to make the case when none of Gawn, Xerri, Marshall or English have the bye to consider. Throw in Darcy, Nank, TDK, ROB and Sweet who also don't have the bye and have cases that can be made

I like him as a player, fwiw, but that bye is brutal when pretty much none of the top rucks are copping it. Rucks so strong that it could well be 70 points you drop in the bye compared to top options.
 

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I agree with most of what you said about the 400k leftover. My argument is that 74 points lost are in reality less than that. If the 400k is the difference between a rookie and a premium. That means I'll have to play an extra rookie rather than say a premium averaging 110. That rookie probably scores 50 and with the flex position it can potentially help this strategy given rookies scores are volatile and if my 'extra rookie's flops but time, then I can benefit more than your average team does with the flex position. In reality it's not a simple equation so it's very tough to quantify how many points are lost.

My strategy is to get a team with very few of the must have top priced premiums instead going for value picks which means that (putting the cash in bank aside for a minute) I am trying my best to maximise team value and seek value in every position. If I can get the right cheaper premiums then regardless of cash leftover, I should be in a decent position.

This strategy of cheaper premiums carries big risk given if they flop you are behind on points and trades but if you get it right there is potential. What the money in the bank does is offers some insurance for those potential premiums that flop but if most of them do, you are in struggle street regardless of money leftover.

I'm not saying it will work at all but if you can hit the sweet spot you can make a team below the full salary cap that averages more than lots of teams that use the full cap.

I'm banking on being behind early but with trades I'm hoping to start closing the gap. It's high risk but I think avoiding picking all the top guns is the way to get ahead, at the end of the day I'll go with a team I like and see if I can leave 300k+

Doubt it works but it's not a simple equation of losing 75points per week and having to overcome that. It can go wrong in many ways but it's not as simple as losing 'x' points early...I'm also not saying that that is your only point.

It can and probably will go wrong but it's not necessarily because of the 400k in the bank, it will be my combination of selections that let me down. If I get cold feet I will end up using some of that cash in the bank.

Anyway, thanks for your thoughts. :)
With the planned strategy, is there an established benchmark players need to hit to avoid being classified as a “flop”, a time period this needs to be achieved in, does the sequencing of scores play a significant factor, does this vary dependent on purchase price and how will trade out options be prioritised?

If interest was received per round on remaining salary, I don’t mind the plan but as others have mentioned it places undue pressure on nailing those selections.
 
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Can't see it myself. Durability is a big issue but the bye is a bigger issue, just can't see him beating other similarly priced rucks by 10 points a week in the first 6 games to make up that bye. He's a bit underpriced but I'm not sold he's physically capable of playing 23 games and he needs to be 10 points better than those without the bye, the value does mean he can be a bit worse than the top guys but you're cancelling 10 points of the value out.

Really hard to make the case when none of Gawn, Xerri, Marshall or English have the bye to consider. Throw in Darcy, Nank, TDK, ROB and Sweet who also don't have the bye and have cases that can be made

I like him as a player, fwiw, but that bye is brutal when pretty much none of the top rucks are copping it. Rucks so strong that it could well be 70 points you drop in the bye compared to top options.
I was going to cover the bye by having Flynn as ruck coverage and hope Flynn takes West Coast number 1 position 🤞
 
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So I've decided I'm committed to trying a new strategy which involves keeping around 400k in the bank.

The idea is to start with a few more midpricers and low end premiums and start upgrading earlier than everyone else who is waiting for cash generation from rookies.

It means that apart from bont and 3 gun rucks, I don't have any top end premiums. I'm hoping that with DPP flexibility I can start upgrading midpricers by round 5 which may be a round or 2 earlier than your average team.

Instead of waiting for rookies to appreciate enough I'll be boosting and hopefully doing 2 up, 1 down for a while.

Theory being that premiums bottom out earlier than rookies max out so keeping money spare allows early upgrades that aren't really feasible with rookies. Mid pricers max out quicker than rookies too so it will likely be trading midpricers to guns.

Why I'm doing this? I've never been very successful with AFL SC so part of me wants to try something a bit outlandish. Secondly, there are so many midpriced forward line options that I'm happy to take as many as possible. I also like the low end premiums/high end midpricers in the midfield so I think the strategy has some merit this season.

Looking forward to giving it a crack regardless of how it turns out!
FWIW I love the idea mate, such an interesting strategy!

Just make sure you are completely sold on those mid-pricers and have very clear thoughts on why each are in your team.

You'd hate to waste that 400k fixing up your team rather than using it to your advantage and upgrading them.

Would love to hear how it turns out if you end up doing it!
 
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