Opinion 2025: Player X v Player Y
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Thanks for your response @Under The Dome
I'm interested to know why you have such a strong preference for Smith as I'm seeing it the other way atm.
This summarises the SC history of the two ..
Parker's 2024 was ruined by a broken arm and he is now 32 - so getting on, but its hard to count him out just yet.
Age is the only comparative negative that I can see..
On the positive case for Parker..
Wardlaw's LTI almost certianly means he gets a good shot in the middle
He doesn't have an early bye.
He's cheaper
If I get it totally wrong I can most likely trade Parker to Smith in R4.
Of course we get to see Smith in R0 - but its a tough assignment for his new team - away to Brisbane.
I'll reconsider if he goes gang-busters tho - possbly start both of them
PS.. As a Dogs fan, I'm dirty on losing Bailey, but dont think thats colouring my opinion.
I'm interested to know why you have such a strong preference for Smith as I'm seeing it the other way atm.
This summarises the SC history of the two ..
Parker's 2024 was ruined by a broken arm and he is now 32 - so getting on, but its hard to count him out just yet.
Age is the only comparative negative that I can see..
On the positive case for Parker..
Wardlaw's LTI almost certianly means he gets a good shot in the middle
He doesn't have an early bye.
He's cheaper
If I get it totally wrong I can most likely trade Parker to Smith in R4.
Of course we get to see Smith in R0 - but its a tough assignment for his new team - away to Brisbane.
I'll reconsider if he goes gang-busters tho - possbly start both of them
PS.. As a Dogs fan, I'm dirty on losing Bailey, but dont think thats colouring my opinion.
Currently, there's no player available as forward this year that averaged over 100 last year and only 6 that averaged over 90.
North were bereft of any experience up forward and really mid/fwd if truth be known. Parker has been brought in for that express purpose, Darling too, but more for his marking or splitting the defence attributes. My thinking before Wardlaw went down was that Parker would split his time 60/40 mid/fwd and act as on field coach, I'm not sure if that split would change much. Powell, Simpkin and Sheezel were used as mid/fwds last year with Phillips being used as a defensive mid. Those first 3 along with Parker and LDU would fill out the mid rotations. I don't think that Parker will be in the top echelon of forwards in SC this year, but I don't see him in the bottom tier either. Basically, we're getting a forward keeper, say F3/4 for $343k.
Smith could very well be in the same boat, around F3/4 keeper range, he might get more of the ball but his disposal will hold him back.
Because the scoring range for keeper status is so low in the forwards the amount of options open right up. I think most expect the top 2 forwards to come from JHF, Rankine, Moore, Daniels etc. they're all priced fairly and the difference between say Moore/Daniels and Macrae/Daniel might very slight, so those cheaper options are next in line. Only leaves F5 & F6 to fill (should predictions prove correct) Start Parker and Smith and there's the forwards complete.
North were bereft of any experience up forward and really mid/fwd if truth be known. Parker has been brought in for that express purpose, Darling too, but more for his marking or splitting the defence attributes. My thinking before Wardlaw went down was that Parker would split his time 60/40 mid/fwd and act as on field coach, I'm not sure if that split would change much. Powell, Simpkin and Sheezel were used as mid/fwds last year with Phillips being used as a defensive mid. Those first 3 along with Parker and LDU would fill out the mid rotations. I don't think that Parker will be in the top echelon of forwards in SC this year, but I don't see him in the bottom tier either. Basically, we're getting a forward keeper, say F3/4 for $343k.
Smith could very well be in the same boat, around F3/4 keeper range, he might get more of the ball but his disposal will hold him back.
Because the scoring range for keeper status is so low in the forwards the amount of options open right up. I think most expect the top 2 forwards to come from JHF, Rankine, Moore, Daniels etc. they're all priced fairly and the difference between say Moore/Daniels and Macrae/Daniel might very slight, so those cheaper options are next in line. Only leaves F5 & F6 to fill (should predictions prove correct) Start Parker and Smith and there's the forwards complete.
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Those players around $450k in the mids I think have to be chosen on the expectation that they'll become keepers. My aim is 30pts upside, Cerra may well deliver 113PPG over the early rounds given the Blues soft draw, if he does that then he's not going to be a prime target to trade out. Do you then hold him and upgrade around him but his scoring drops to his normal range (whatever that is) or he again succumbs to injury? I reckon Clarry is enough risk at that price and I'd assume he's in the team?
Peatling has to score at 95 to achieve my benchmark of a 30PPG improvement, I think he's capable of that and because of his bye is a perfect stepping stone to an uber mid.
Peatling would be my choice over Cerra and the nearly $100k saving should deliver an extra 15-20PPG via an upgrade elsewhere, still giving you the expected output of Cerra but possibly reducing the risk and making more cash in the mean time.
That $100k saving should be enough to get Parker into the team, so the Parker v's Peatling choice becomes moot as they're both looking like they'll be good starting options, Parker in particular because of the lower bar for forwards, where he might just be a keeper. So I'd start both.
Peatling has to score at 95 to achieve my benchmark of a 30PPG improvement, I think he's capable of that and because of his bye is a perfect stepping stone to an uber mid.
Peatling would be my choice over Cerra and the nearly $100k saving should deliver an extra 15-20PPG via an upgrade elsewhere, still giving you the expected output of Cerra but possibly reducing the risk and making more cash in the mean time.
That $100k saving should be enough to get Parker into the team, so the Parker v's Peatling choice becomes moot as they're both looking like they'll be good starting options, Parker in particular because of the lower bar for forwards, where he might just be a keeper. So I'd start both.
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That's the other things , the C option.
That Round 1-4 draw is enticing for Cripps / TDK into Gawn though.
Sheezel is going to be extremely interesting
If his role does indeed change , does he lose that many points or if he starts hitting the scoreboard more does he actually increase his points ? 🤔
Are their more possible alternatives on the mid line to fading Bont over Sheezel on the defence line ?
That Round 1-4 draw is enticing for Cripps / TDK into Gawn though.
Sheezel is going to be extremely interesting
If his role does indeed change , does he lose that many points or if he starts hitting the scoreboard more does he actually increase his points ? 🤔
Are their more possible alternatives on the mid line to fading Bont over Sheezel on the defence line ?