Discussion 2025: AFL SuperCoach Discussion
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Idea is to hope Bo Allan gets a gig and swing Holmes to M9 in Round 3. Obviously cutting it tight but I reckon Houston is a bit of value and a POD; so I'm working at the assumption that if I think someone with the extra bye is around 5 ppg underpriced up to round 10 I'll take them into consideration. The other issue is structure, I'm just not too confident in defensive rookies so batting deep there is my thinking.
IMO that team was pretty bog standard for a starting team last year. Up until about Rd 9 scoring wasn't that special but after that it just took off. All about identifying players on the rise and good trading I think. And to not have Ryan, Butters or Serong indicates to me it is about getting value, value and for something totally different.......value.
These two really play into each other. It's a lot easier to not worry about Round 0 players if you're not losing a super premium that you paid big bucks for. Having that 50 point hit (per wogitalia's figures) because you lost a Neale or a Green hurts more than losing less because they're not a super premium and because that money is now spread across multiple players. Maybe it's only a 10-20 point hit at most.
This year I'm currently doing similar - I don't want the big premiums with that opening round ideally, but I have no problem taking guys like Mills or WAshcroft or Bailey Smith.
This year I'm currently doing similar - I don't want the big premiums with that opening round ideally, but I have no problem taking guys like Mills or WAshcroft or Bailey Smith.
You're right in what you're saying, but it also comes down to the value attached to those higher priced premiums.
Part of that quote was 'May largely avoided top-priced players in his starting team – with the exception of Marcus Bontempelli, Max Gawn and Harry Sheezel'
Now that's not quite right, yes, Bont was $724k to start with but dropped to $614k by round 8 and wasn't really a viable C option.
Gawn was underpriced and a value pick at $583k, May Captained him in 5 of his first 10 rounds, Gawn quickly got to $700k by round 7 proving to be out of reach for most, particularly those that faded him after his round 0 score of 72 and the fact that he had an early bye.
Sheezel was also underpriced and a value pick even with the early bye as well, started at $556k and also became difficult to trade in reaching $644k by round 8.
He traded Heeney in at round 2 (early bye too) at $483k who also became hard to get reaching $640k by round 6.
Flanders was another early bye starter at $494k reaching his peak of $644k in round 17.
He also started Green at $621k (who actually was a high priced premium), again, another premium with an early bye, my guess is that the main reason for him was the soft matchup where he Captained him in round 1. I did the same and likewise held him all year, what I'm still kicking myself for is not realising that the injury he picked up in round 5, when he was priced at $644k, would hamper him for the next 9 rounds. If I was switched on enough I would have traded him in round 5 then bought him back in round 15 for $456k when he was over the injury and went on to average 115 over the final 10 rounds.
The funny thing is that I started all of those value and high priced picks (Gawn and Green) as well, which meant I was travelling along ok ranking in the mid 1000's for a lot of the year. There were some fundamental errors though that derailed the season, not having Xerri at all, trading in Rowell and Ryan at top price only to see them promptly and immediately crap the bed which led to a sub par finishing team. Oh, and profligacy with trades didn't help only having 4 left after round 15.
I think that the main take for me from what happened last year is that the value picks outweigh the loss of points from the early byes, combine that with a couple of premos with good starts to their fixture which should also see the loss of points minimized. So yes, the cheaper value options like Mills, Washcloth and Smith won't hurt much from a points loss perspective, but those higher priced premiums that also present value shouldn't be discounted either.
Part of that quote was 'May largely avoided top-priced players in his starting team – with the exception of Marcus Bontempelli, Max Gawn and Harry Sheezel'
Now that's not quite right, yes, Bont was $724k to start with but dropped to $614k by round 8 and wasn't really a viable C option.
Gawn was underpriced and a value pick at $583k, May Captained him in 5 of his first 10 rounds, Gawn quickly got to $700k by round 7 proving to be out of reach for most, particularly those that faded him after his round 0 score of 72 and the fact that he had an early bye.
Sheezel was also underpriced and a value pick even with the early bye as well, started at $556k and also became difficult to trade in reaching $644k by round 8.
He traded Heeney in at round 2 (early bye too) at $483k who also became hard to get reaching $640k by round 6.
Flanders was another early bye starter at $494k reaching his peak of $644k in round 17.
He also started Green at $621k (who actually was a high priced premium), again, another premium with an early bye, my guess is that the main reason for him was the soft matchup where he Captained him in round 1. I did the same and likewise held him all year, what I'm still kicking myself for is not realising that the injury he picked up in round 5, when he was priced at $644k, would hamper him for the next 9 rounds. If I was switched on enough I would have traded him in round 5 then bought him back in round 15 for $456k when he was over the injury and went on to average 115 over the final 10 rounds.
The funny thing is that I started all of those value and high priced picks (Gawn and Green) as well, which meant I was travelling along ok ranking in the mid 1000's for a lot of the year. There were some fundamental errors though that derailed the season, not having Xerri at all, trading in Rowell and Ryan at top price only to see them promptly and immediately crap the bed which led to a sub par finishing team. Oh, and profligacy with trades didn't help only having 4 left after round 15.
I think that the main take for me from what happened last year is that the value picks outweigh the loss of points from the early byes, combine that with a couple of premos with good starts to their fixture which should also see the loss of points minimized. So yes, the cheaper value options like Mills, Washcloth and Smith won't hurt much from a points loss perspective, but those higher priced premiums that also present value shouldn't be discounted either.
Have to admit, I'm warming to Trent Rivers.
Talk is of more mid time this year.
The 2 games last year with his most CBA's were.
Round 15. 80% CBA's - Supercoach score - 131
Round 17. 83% CBA's - Supercoach score - 143
If it happens to go pear shaped, he's an easy flip to Matty Roberts after his early bye.
Talk is of more mid time this year.
The 2 games last year with his most CBA's were.
Round 15. 80% CBA's - Supercoach score - 131
Round 17. 83% CBA's - Supercoach score - 143
If it happens to go pear shaped, he's an easy flip to Matty Roberts after his early bye.
