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Hi guys,

Only will to share my structure at this stage. It is based around where I see rookie value. It's early but it'll look something like this.

D – 3-0-5
M – 6-1-4
R – 1-1-1
F – 3-0-5

I don't mind being a bit thing down back or forward.
 

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Hi guys,

Only will to share my structure at this stage. It is based around where I see rookie value. It's early but it'll look something like this.

D – 3-0-5
M – 6-1-4
R – 1-1-1
F – 3-0-5

I don't mind being a bit thing down back or forward.
Jurn, with your 6 MID premiums, what price range and above are you talking for them?? $550K+ ???
 
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Team 1:

D: McVeigh, Bartel, Yeo, Smith, MW Brown, Bonner (Hartley, Hibberd)

M: Pendles, Ablett, Selwood, Rockliff, Libba, Crouch, Freeman, Sumner (Cuningham, Mathieson/Keays, Morabito)

R: Goldstein, Lobbe (Read)

F: Deledio, Martin, Barlow, Franklin, Kerridge, Petracca (Kommer, Adams)

Cash left: 154.1k

or alternatively:

R: Goldstein, Martin (Read)

F: Deledio, Martin, Barlow, Leuenberger, Kerridge, Petracca (Kommer, Adams)

Cash left: 105.4k

Leaning towards the second option if Leuey is fit to play in round 1. Thoughts on structure? Option 1 vs. option 2?
Any idea how I might spend the extra cash. I don't really mind having 100k in the bank to start the season though.
All comments and criticisms much appreciated.
 
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Hi guys,

Only will to share my structure at this stage. It is based around where I see rookie value. It's early but it'll look something like this.

D – 3-0-5
M – 6-1-4
R – 1-1-1
F – 3-0-5

I don't mind being a bit thing down back or forward.
I really like that 6-1-4 midfield structure JS. Earlier pre-season I had a 5-2-4, but a few members told me that it may have been overkill considering lots of the cash generating rookies are to be had in the midfield. With that being said, Libba/Crouch/JOM could make a lot of cash themselves, and it's risk/reward as to whether one of them may become a keeper. I currently have 4-2-5 with a 4-0-4 forward line, but I could change it to a 3-0-5 forward line like you to go with a 5-2-4 midfield.

I don't see much downside in going 7 deep (premiums/midpricers) in the midfield as long as the speculative picks are limited to 1-2.

EDIT: After having a fiddle around with things, I can already see it would change my structures significantly, so I'll probably put my 5-2-4 midfield to rest. My last comment still stands though for those who will go 7 deep.
 
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Team 1:

D: McVeigh, Bartel, Yeo, Smith, MW Brown, Bonner (Hartley, Hibberd)

M: Pendles, Ablett, Selwood, Rockliff, Libba, Crouch, Freeman, Sumner (Cuningham, Mathieson/Keays, Morabito)

R: Goldstein, Lobbe (Read)

F: Deledio, Martin, Barlow, Franklin, Kerridge, Petracca (Kommer, Adams)

Cash left: 154.1k

or alternatively:

R: Goldstein, Martin (Read)

F: Deledio, Martin, Barlow, Leuenberger, Kerridge, Petracca (Kommer, Adams)

Cash left: 105.4k

Leaning towards the second option if Leuey is fit to play in round 1. Thoughts on structure? Option 1 vs. option 2?
Any idea how I might spend the extra cash. I don't really mind having 100k in the bank to start the season though.
All comments and criticisms much appreciated.
Hi Bomber,

Personally I really don't like Leuenberger, so its easy option 1 for me.

If you want ruck cover, maybe Franklin out, Sinclair in or use some of your cash to get West (if he plays) in the froward line.

Other than that Option 1 is very similar to my draft at the moment.
 
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Jurn, with your 6 MID premiums, what price range and above are you talking for them?? $550K+ ???
Correct. 550k+ in the mid/ruc for premo, 500k+ in the fwd/def for premos given they can generally average a bit lower. I've counted Bartel and Boomer as premos as they don't seem like mid priced selections to me.
 
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Hi Bomber,

Personally I really don't like Leuenberger, so its easy option 1 for me.

If you want ruck cover, maybe Franklin out, Sinclair in or use some of your cash to get West (if he plays) in the froward line.

Other than that Option 1 is very similar to my draft at the moment.
Thanks Deeman, that is very helpful! Plenty of options for ruck cover I suppose. Franklin could go for Tippett/Sinclair. I really like your suggestion of West as cover (if he plays).
 

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Correct. 550k+ in the mid/ruc for premo, 500k+ in the fwd/def for premos given they can generally average a bit lower. I've counted Bartel and Boomer as premos as they don't seem like mid priced selections to me.
Gee, with that criteria I have just 8 'premiums' in my team right now!
 
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I've fairly happy with my GnR structure atm:
3-0-5
5-Libba-5
2-0-1
4-0-4
 
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Gee, with that criteria I have just 8 'premiums' in my team right now!
It keeps me in line when I pick my teams. That's not to say guys between 550k - 475k in the midfield are midpricers, I just can't call them premiums and reasonably satisfy myself that they are premiums, unless they are a 2014 Beams type. That is a no-mans land area that I generally try to stay away from, as to be successful the player generally has to 'breakout' (Wines) or increase their average by about 10 ppg (A.Swallow/R.Griffen 2015).

I have no issues paying 50k more for a player that had a down year but should return to form (i.e. Selwood, Pendles). The players that generally fit this bill are the top 10 rated players in the competition e.g. Dangerfield was 4th overall in the AFL Player Ratings at the start of 2015, but was priced at 106 or there abouts.

For me, that means I'm picking Selwood, Sloane, Pendles, JPK and Harvey. Years of a scoring trend, and picking players that regularly play over 21 games in a seasons is also a major plus.
 

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Hi guys,

Only will to share my structure at this stage. It is based around where I see rookie value. It's early but it'll look something like this.

D – 3-0-5
M – 6-1-4
R – 1-1-1
F – 3-0-5

I don't mind being a bit thing down back or forward.
Correct. 550k+ in the mid/ruc for premo, 500k+ in the fwd/def for premos given they can generally average a bit lower. I've counted Bartel and Boomer as premos as they don't seem like mid priced selections to me.
WOW Jurn Stern...I calculated approx. 6.85MM spent across your 13 Premiums! Assuming your 2 mid-price selections are at the 300-350K mark, that leaves around 2.5MM for your remaining 15 Rookies. Definitely GnR setup if I may say so myself, which is something I'm strongly considering building my team around.
 

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It keeps me in line when I pick my teams. That's not to say guys between 550k - 475k in the midfield are midpricers, I just can't call them premiums and reasonably satisfy myself that they are premiums, unless they are a 2014 Beams type. That is a no-mans land area that I generally try to stay away from, as to be successful the player generally has to 'breakout' (Wines) or increase their average by about 10 ppg (A.Swallow/R.Griffen 2015).

I have no issues paying 50k more for a player that had a down year but should return to form (i.e. Selwood, Pendles). The players that generally fit this bill are the top 10 rated players in the competition e.g. Dangerfield was 4th overall in the AFL Player Ratings at the start of 2015, but was priced at 106 or there abouts.

For me, that means I'm picking Selwood, Sloane, Pendles, JPK and Harvey. Years of a scoring trend, and picking players that regularly play over 21 games in a seasons is also a major plus.
All valid points and solid picks.

So no Yeo, Smith or Zac Merrett types in consideration for you then?

Preferring to go down the more proven route in both defence and up forward?
 
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All valid points and solid picks.

So no Yeo, Smith or Zac Merrett types in consideration for you then?

Preferring to go down the more proven route in both defence and up forward?
Exactly. It probably means that I'll struggle to win, because I'll never get that huge advantage of picking a few great breakout players, but it gives me a group of premiums that I have good reason to expect will play 20+ games and be in the top 10 for their position (top 15 for mids).
 

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Exactly. It probably means that I'll struggle to win, because I'll never get that huge advantage of picking a few great breakout players, but it gives me a group of premiums that I have good reason to expect will play 20+ games and be in the top 10 for their position (top 15 for mids).
A solid strategy.

Not one that I think I will employ this season with all the perceived value around but solid nonetheless.
 

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All valid points and solid picks.

So no Yeo, Smith or Zac Merrett types in consideration for you then?

Preferring to go down the more proven route in both defence and up forward?
Exactly. It probably means that I'll struggle to win, because I'll never get that huge advantage of picking a few great breakout players, but it gives me a group of premiums that I have good reason to expect will play 20+ games and be in the top 10 for their position (top 15 for mids).
I must admit, I've never understood the amount of love for Smith here so far this pre-season. After looking at his table/numbers, I've fallen out of love with Yeo. I don't want to be on any WC players with FTB tendencies, given their toughish early draw. I'm totally on the fence with Merrett. If the NAB shows he is playing mainly Mid, I will probably jump on board, if it is 50/50 Mid/Fwd, I will go without him.
 
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I must admit, I've never understood the amount of love for Smith here so far this pre-season. After looking at his table/numbers, I've fallen out of love with Yeo. I don't want to be on any WC players with FTB tendencies, given their toughish early draw. I'm totally on the fence with Merrett. If the NAB shows he is playing mainly Mid, I will probably jump on board, if it is 50/50 Mid/Fwd, I will go without him.
BOOM! % ownership of these two players will drop through the floor now :p
 
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I must admit, I've never understood the amount of love for Smith here so far this pre-season. After looking at his table/numbers, I've fallen out of love with Yeo. I don't want to be on any WC players with FTB tendencies, given their toughish early draw. I'm totally on the fence with Merrett. If the NAB shows he is playing mainly Mid, I will probably jump on board, if it is 50/50 Mid/Fwd, I will go without him.
What are your thoughts on spending more to get the pricier premiums Rowsus?
 
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WOW Jurn Stern...I calculated approx. 6.85MM spent across your 13 Premiums! Assuming your 2 mid-price selections are at the 300-350K mark, that leaves around 2.5MM for your remaining 15 Rookies. Definitely GnR setup if I may say so myself, which is something I'm strongly considering building my team around.
Yeah there is a lot of cash spent on half of my squad, and I'm spending more than 350k on both mid pricers that I'm looking at.
 

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What are your thoughts on spending more to get the pricier premiums Rowsus?
I think it is ok. The higher the price you pay, the more certain you need to be that they'll at least go close to last years output. Seems a bit obvious saying that, but it's amazing how many Coaches just lock in high priced players, without comparing expectation to price. The obvious example this year is Goldy, though for what we are talking about, it probably isn't fair to compare Rucks with Mids. If people are locking in Goldy, with an expectation he will be under 118 this coming season, or less than say 5/game clear of the 2nd best Ruck, I would say they are crazy.
Let's assume Fyfe is 100% fit. Unless you thought he'd be at least a 90% chance to be 116-117+ in 2016, then I wouldn't start with him. Going in with the a "I know he'll be top 8 for Mids" attitude doesn't cut it for me. Having said that, he doesn't become a Lock if you believe he will be 120, but he shouldn't be considered as a starting option, if you think he will only be 115. He is $670k. If he goes 115/game, then history says you will probably pick him up at around $550-$560k at some stage of the season.
I like your approach of banking the players with good on field history, that definitely lowers the risk. If you have set reasonable expectations, and those expectations are that the players at worst should score within 5/game of last season, then load up as many of those expensive 20+ game players as you can. The only thing I'd say to those reading this, is that one season of say 117, and a history of 103 - 108, doesn't make 112 a reasonable expectation for 2016. You'd want a bit more than 1 seasons history, to be paying top dollar at the start of the season.
 
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I must admit, I've never understood the amount of love for Smith here so far this pre-season. After looking at his table/numbers, I've fallen out of love with Yeo. I don't want to be on any WC players with FTB tendencies, given their toughish early draw. I'm totally on the fence with Merrett. If the NAB shows he is playing mainly Mid, I will probably jump on board, if it is 50/50 Mid/Fwd, I will go without him.
i totally agree. im surprised there is also a lot of love for nicnat. i think you said it well in your review with nitnat he doesnt score well when they lose. they do have a tough start to the season.
 
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