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What could you do if Redden became a rookie? It feels like you are batting at least one too deep in your midfield. Your 3 mid-priced picks could be sorted although I don't mind Lobbe and Ceski. Bird = dunno on him. It might allow you to get Ablett back. What's the reasoning not taking Gaz at his cheapest starting price in years? He and the team have a massive point to prove. He's only $70K more than your Shiel and $60K than Titch.

Overall I feel like you've stretched out the budget too far maybe the amp of the GnR in the mids is needed. IDIG has a good template of what you can do with the extra mid rookie or two.
 
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What could you do if Redden became a rookie? It feels like you are batting at least one too deep in your midfield. Your 3 mid-priced picks could be sorted although I don't mind Lobbe and Ceski. Bird = dunno on him. It might allow you to get Ablett back. What's the reasoning not taking Gaz at his cheapest starting price in years? He and the team have a massive point to prove. He's only $70K more than your Shiel and $60K than Titch.

Overall I feel like you've stretched out the budget too far maybe the amp of the GnR in the mids is needed. IDIG has a good template of what you can do with the extra mid rookie or two.
Ablett has played 21 games in two seasons and starts the season at 31. He's Ablett obviously so he defies all normal logic, but it's $100k which can be spent elsewhere. I'm not saying I have nailed them, but there are plenty of mids out there who can finish the season with a 110 average and to me represent better "value", particularly given players like Pendles and Rockliff (great captain choices) are also under priced. If Ablett comes out of the blocks and scores 130+ the opening two rounds I can re assess.

Bird I 100% agree with you. I had Z Merret eventually but went with Bird for now because of his price. I'm not really happy with either of them to be honest.

Rich could potentially become Kelly or Dureya as a POD.

Redden I am waiting to see how his pre season pans out with his abductor injury, but basically he has a bit of a dip in his historic output. His last 5 seasons (old to new) go 103, 103, 98, 103, 95. He left Brisbane by choice to seek opportunities elsewhere which to me says the passion wasn't there. He has moved to a club which should see more success on the field, and he should have greater midfield support than he did at Brisbane last year with all of their injuries.

I guess overall I have tried to moneyball it a bit more than I usually would by avoiding the ultra premium players (Ablett, Shaw) and trying for the fallen premiums or premiums who have an explainable reason why they were down last year and should improve this year.
 

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My first call for feedback. Have at it!

The rookies are placeholders. I have the DPP links set up so whoever fills the gaps will basically be a playing rookie with DPP status. I have really tried to avoid the top echelon of scorers from 2015. In my first iteration I had the likes of Shaw and Ablett but I think the money can be better spent elsewhere.

After reading Rowsus' analysis of the past few winners I have tried my best to avoid chasing points and instead have looked for value premiums across the board.

Daniel Rich is one player sure to draw criticism. At the moment he is in there on gut feel alone. I keep taking him out and putting him back. Brisbane had their top tier players ravaged by injury last season. Hanley, Beams, Rockliff to name a few. My gut says he is capable of big scores and having the A graders around him will help his output.

Kolodjashnij is one pick I really like. I was critical of him early last year but then read Eade's comments about being played out of position early and finding his spot late. He is ceiling is huge, and like Rich he regains players like Ablett, O'Mera, Swallow, Prestia etc.

Mumford could become Martin, but I like him as a POD. I have him every year so I am well aware of how injury prone he is, but I'm also aware of his enormous ceiling. I think the young talent around him is better than the young talent at Brisbane, and you might have seen me constantly posting about how much ruck scores are impacted by the players at their feet!

Anyway.. feedback welcome.
Very unique looking side and a really interesting approach. Lots of upside!

I know we discuss value and chasing last year's points on here often and if i had the stones, i'd probably start a similar type of team but i think perhaps there's too much risk? It would be a difficult hole to dig yourself out of if all your speculative picks failed and you'd be stuck trying to fix your team instead of upgrading.

Ablett as mentioned above is well below his normal starting so for mine he would still be a value pick and is worth reshuffling the team for.

From memory Redden has had a bit of a setback so one to monitor. My concern with picking him is whether he'll finish in the top 10 midfielders come season's end. At his starting price he would have to be a keeper or late luxury trade so you run the risk of starting with a negative POD against most people's Wines at a similar price. Also, with only 3 spots for upgrades in the midfield you may miss out on some of the top shelfers.

I can see why you've chosen your rucks and I'm sure you're aware of the risks involved so won't comment there.

Roughead is an interesting pick. Don't hate him but don't love him and can't figure out if he's underpriced or just declining :confused:

Your structure for mine is what sets this type of structure apart from the safer cookie cutter type structure i've taken and if you nail those speculative picks you'll put yourself in a very good position to win the whole thing!
 

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Nice work mate. I like it a lot. Think you are paying top price for a few of your keepers (McVeigh, Simpson, Montagna and Goldy) but if you think they can maintain/increase their average then that's fine.

A very solid side from a great coach.
Thanks mate. I don't mind paying top price if i'm confident they're within the not-a-bad-pick range and can play 20+ games. Would love to give Zachy a run but don't think i want to take the risk anymore. Also very keen on Boydy but can't quite fit him in.
 
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After recurring nightmares of somehow missing the start of the AFL, and therefore, Supercoach season despite it only being the end of January, I've decided to try to make another iteration of a possible team. Rookies are still placeholders for the most part.

 

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Any reason for the 150k left over? Is that a deliberate strategy?
 
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Any reason for the 150k left over? Is that a deliberate strategy?
Not at the moment; it's just how the cards fell. I'm considering downgrading Shiel to O'Meara and perhaps upgrading in Defence.
 

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DEF: Shaw, KK, Bartel, Rampe, Hurn, Brown (Byrne, Golds)
MID: GAJ, Rockliff, JPK, Ward, Liberatore, Crouch, Trengove, Morabito (Ahern, Freeman, Menegola)
RUC: Goldstein, Mumford (Goetz)
FWD: Deledio, Bennell, Thomas, Wells, Petracca, Kerridge (Adams, Yarran)
 
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Here is my attempt any thoughts?
Rookies only gap fillers for now of course.

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Hey Brett,

I think one light in defence and forwards and top heavy in the mids. Goldy to say Martin or NicNat gives so much more cash to play with. Say Shiel to a Corey Evans, VJ to a KK and Lamb/Kennedy to Harvey, Buddy, or someone of that price you think has the biscuits. Side will look better I reckon.

It is true to say that guesswork rookies are gap fillers but your choices are not all 117.3 players which gives plenty of room to manoeuvre.
 
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DEF: Shaw, KK, Bartel, Rampe, Hurn, Brown (Byrne, Golds)
MID: GAJ, Rockliff, JPK, Ward, Liberatore, Crouch, Trengove, Morabito (Ahern, Freeman, Menegola)
RUC: Goldstein, Mumford (Goetz)
FWD: Deledio, Bennell, Thomas, Wells, Petracca, Kerridge (Adams, Yarran)
Some interesting choices here DMCC10. The first thing I noticed is that most of your starting forwards are meaningful injury risks. I'd suggest getting some more durable types in there or you might end up with a few headaches. Dusty, Boomer and Roughy could be names to look at. I would probably look to lighten in the backline (perhaps cutting Shaw, who is priced at mid keeper levels) to get one more forward keeper as well - I had a somewhat similar structure until recently, but evened it up and I think it looks better and gives more flexibility. I would also look to raise a little cash to upgrade Ward to Pendles. Cutting Shaw would probably cover that too given how dear he is. I don't think Ward will be a top scoring mid this year, and Pendles basically always is.
 

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Early comments would be appreciated. Rookies obviously filling the gaps atm and understand an injury concern or 2 but hoping all fit by rd1.

DEF: Gibson, Bartel, Kolodjashnij, Smith, Brown (Ess), Byrne (Rice, Collins)
MID: Pendlebury, Ablett, Selwood, Rockliff, Liberatore, Crouch, Kerridge, Jansen (Mathieson, Gore, Freeman)
RUC: Martin, Lobbe (Cox)
FWD: Montagna, Martin, Dahlhaus, Wingard, Anderson, Cockatoo (Petracca, Sumner)

2.4k leftover.


Anderson/Cockatoo are big risks but I just don't see many value rookies in attack.

Thoughts?
 
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i really meant that if he's using cockatoo and anderson- not because he likes them but because he doesnt see many options, id prefer to not have that link and have a decent rookie in the fwd line instead
 

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Not at the moment; it's just how the cards fell. I'm considering downgrading Shiel to O'Meara and perhaps upgrading in Defence.
Fair enough mate. I was considering doing the same to help with upgrades and rookie corrections. I think it would be damn handy but I always find myself trying to start as many points on the ground as possible.
 
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Ok guys, I feel like it's time :) Version 1 for 2016. See below:

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A few notes to justify initial selection:

Defence: for some reason, could not make myself Heater even though he was so solid last year. So went for some old stayers in McVeigh and Bartel. Barring injury, you know what you're going to get. Smith should find his way back to at least a 90 odd average at worst. The kid's a gun. Mal was a tricky one. Had a bad season last year...but who at GC didn't have an off one? The other option is spend a bit more and put KK in there. Then threw in some rookies I think MAY get games (Whitecross is slowly becoming more of a cross...but no idea who to swap him with)

Mids: Set and forget: Fyfe, Ablett, Pendles, Rocky, Libba. Breakout: Crouch. Then rookies who should get games (Lovell is my dark horse. Love the kid and reckon he could push for a spot in the Hawks outfit)

Rucks: had to put the love for my Roo boys aside and take Martin over Goldy due to price..and now that Ryder is out, Lobbe should get some really good ruck time. Safer bet than Leuenberger IMO. Then King as a floating doughnut.

Forwards: 4 solid forward options, Wells to come back strong and then rookies as above.

Let me know what you all think.

Cheers!
Version 2:

DEF: McVeigh (M), Simpson, Bartel (M), B.Smith, M. Brown (F), N.Drummond (S. Collins, K,Collins)
MID: Pendles, GAJ, JPK, Rockliff, Libba, B.Crouch, Parish, Gore (Morabito, Lovell, Hiscox (F))
RUC: S.Martin, Lobbe (M.King (F))
FWD: D.Martin (M), Zorko (M), Barlow (M), Boomer, Wells, Petracca (Kerridge (M), MacDonald-Tipungwuti (D))

Few changes from Version 1:

- Fyfe out - until he proves fitness. Brought in JPK (super solid and rarely misses games).
- With that spare cash, upgraded N.Mal to Simpson. Now I have 3 old stayers. Looking for consistency from all of them.
- Brought Hiscox into the mids for M/F link.
- Whitecross swapped for K. Collins and Drummond in for Hartley (this one may change when teams are known for Round 1 + watching NAB form)
- Franklin out for Zorko...but now I'm not sure if the extra 90k is worth it initially. He's a pretty consistent scorer with less risk associated with him than Buddy...but would like to hear thoughts.
 

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I like your changes but i like Franklin over Zorko. Based off no stats at all but i reckon with Rock/Beams/Hanley all fit, Zorko will almost certainly spend less time in the middle. Not sure how i'd spend the extra 90k.
 
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Early comments would be appreciated. Rookies obviously filling the gaps atm and understand an injury concern or 2 but hoping all fit by rd1.

DEF: Gibson, Bartel, Kolodjashnij, Smith, Brown (Ess), Byrne (Rice, Collins)
MID: Pendlebury, Ablett, Selwood, Rockliff, Liberatore, Crouch, Kerridge, Jansen (Mathieson, Gore, Freeman)
RUC: Martin, Lobbe (Cox)
FWD: Montagna, Martin, Dahlhaus, Wingard, Anderson, Cockatoo (Petracca, Sumner)

2.4k leftover.


Anderson/Cockatoo are big risks but I just don't see many value rookies in attack.

Thoughts?
Nice team, very similar structurally to mine, just a couple of observations:
- Gibson. Not sure how Lake departing affects his output but have never been a fan of general defenders in fantasy football. Swap him for a midfielder with dpp (rich/yeo) or a pure hbf.
- Smith. Averaged 92 in an AA season in defence, is returning to same role, can we realistically see him pushing much higher than 92? He's an inconsistent player and prone to forward tags, I'm not so sure that will be changing anytime soon.
- Dahlhaus. Only reason I bring this up is how is his role (and output) affected by the return of Libba? Admittedly I didn't watch much of Dahlhaus last year, but his stats are very impressive. Could suffer from a similar fate as Zorko where team balance necessitates they spend more time up forward.
Apart from that, everything else looks great!
 
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I like your changes but i like Franklin over Zorko. Based off no stats at all but i reckon with Rock/Beams/Hanley all fit, Zorko will almost certainly spend less time in the middle. Not sure how i'd spend the extra 90k.
The longer I play this game the more I look into a players games played. Franklin's game count is shocking. he has only played 22 games ONCE and that was in 2008. He has averaged 18.4 games per season across his career. If you take out his debut year (14 games) that number only jumps up to 18.8 games per year. It's a pretty safe assumption to say this wont suddenly change in 2016. He will cop a silly suspension and have some kind of niggling injury which keeps him out for 1-2 weeks. His knees have been dodgey for years.

You might think 18-19 games is a pretty good return, but why start the season with an 18 game player when you can invest in a 22 game player instead? He's under priced, no doubt about it, but unless you are buying him as a stepping stone he's a bad investment. If you are buying Franklin you are buying him in the hope he is a keeper. His last 3 seasons have yielded averages of 90.42 (2013), 99.95 (2014) and 87.12 (2015). Where is his improvement coming from in 2016? His TOG won't increase as he doesn't get subbed. His role wont change. He's been at the swans for 2 average (by premium standards) seasons. He's now a year older.

One thing I am really trying not to do this year is invest in someone based on their profile. The numbers don't lie.

I have broken my own rule by selecting Crouch and Mumford at the moment, but if I take the emotion out of it they should change to O'Mera (if fit) and Stef Martin for similar prices.
 
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