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Hi row
I would love your help before I finalise my team.
At this stage my team is
B rance shaw Bartel weatering dea Hartley brown Adams
M Fyfe Ablett danger Pendles rockie mills Gresham bkennedy Hewitt Davis Dunkley/petracca
R goldie Gawn wyett
F Martin Barlow hall wells kerridge menadue mccarthy amt
I was wondering what is the best option
A - keep Pendles in the squad and keep either Dunkley or petracca
B- bring in Selwood for pendles and drop Bartel or rich and upgrade Dunkley to Oliver huge risk but love selwoods draw and past numbers
C- Pendles out wines in and Bartel stays in the team and Dunkley is out Oliver in.
D- out Shaw, laird in pendles stays in and Oliver is in
E- alternative option
Thanks Row for your help
I would love your help before I finalise my team.
At this stage my team is
B rance shaw Bartel weatering dea Hartley brown Adams
M Fyfe Ablett danger Pendles rockie mills Gresham bkennedy Hewitt Davis Dunkley/petracca
R goldie Gawn wyett
F Martin Barlow hall wells kerridge menadue mccarthy amt
I was wondering what is the best option
A - keep Pendles in the squad and keep either Dunkley or petracca
B- bring in Selwood for pendles and drop Bartel or rich and upgrade Dunkley to Oliver huge risk but love selwoods draw and past numbers
C- Pendles out wines in and Bartel stays in the team and Dunkley is out Oliver in.
D- out Shaw, laird in pendles stays in and Oliver is in
E- alternative option
Thanks Row for your help
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Hi Rowsus,
Hope you've enjoyed the first game of the season. Is it just me or do colours seem brighter, and whites whiter?
Jarrod Witts has been named as sole ruck for the Magpies, presumably with Gault chopping out. Grundy has been named an emergency.
I don't want to pick Goldstein. I think he's great. Love him. Think he's probably top ruck this year. But I think last year was some version of a spike and I think he'll be heaps cheaper at some stage this season. That said, I've been resigned to picking him (save a brief exciting period where I thought Currie might be named) because I wasn't keen on any midpricers and I felt I could sustain one overpriced pick in my team if I sought value elsewhere and if I was confident Goldstein would be a required pick at some stage.
Enter Jarrod. Am I having the dreaded last-minute crazies, or am I right in thinking that if he plays as sole ruck he's a midpriced r/f with a high likelihood of outscoring his price and a genuine (if not high) possibility of becoming a forward keeper?
Hope you've enjoyed the first game of the season. Is it just me or do colours seem brighter, and whites whiter?
Jarrod Witts has been named as sole ruck for the Magpies, presumably with Gault chopping out. Grundy has been named an emergency.
I don't want to pick Goldstein. I think he's great. Love him. Think he's probably top ruck this year. But I think last year was some version of a spike and I think he'll be heaps cheaper at some stage this season. That said, I've been resigned to picking him (save a brief exciting period where I thought Currie might be named) because I wasn't keen on any midpricers and I felt I could sustain one overpriced pick in my team if I sought value elsewhere and if I was confident Goldstein would be a required pick at some stage.
Enter Jarrod. Am I having the dreaded last-minute crazies, or am I right in thinking that if he plays as sole ruck he's a midpriced r/f with a high likelihood of outscoring his price and a genuine (if not high) possibility of becoming a forward keeper?
Hi Rowsus,
Great to have footy back ! Stephen raised a good point so perhaps you could help with my question simultaneously. I want keen on Goldy at his price and would only consider him originally if there was s suitable mid pricer who I could not decide on. Now with the teams out Witts comes into picture. How do you feel about his JS ? Changing Martin/NicNat into Goldy/Witts gives me an extra chunk of money and just makes me feel better about my whole team as I was never really married to my ruck setup. Also I don't mind using trades early to correct Witts if it doesn't work out, ad I'm quite disciplined with rationing my trades over the course of the season; ie I never have trade scarcity issues at the pointy end of the season. Cheers
Great to have footy back ! Stephen raised a good point so perhaps you could help with my question simultaneously. I want keen on Goldy at his price and would only consider him originally if there was s suitable mid pricer who I could not decide on. Now with the teams out Witts comes into picture. How do you feel about his JS ? Changing Martin/NicNat into Goldy/Witts gives me an extra chunk of money and just makes me feel better about my whole team as I was never really married to my ruck setup. Also I don't mind using trades early to correct Witts if it doesn't work out, ad I'm quite disciplined with rationing my trades over the course of the season; ie I never have trade scarcity issues at the pointy end of the season. Cheers
Def654: Welcome aboard! 
That's the beauty of making 3 or 4 teams during the pre-season. I go with team A if Currie is named, Team B if he's not etc.
My Ruck line is now Martin, NicNat (Currie). I still believe Currie will get games, be a Cash cow, and potentially give us cover, even though there are many that will say it is madness to have a $160k non-playing Rookie on the bench. So far, he is only non-playing this week!
Team C had my Rucks as Martin, Nicholls (Currie), giving the neat pairing of Nicholls and Currie, as when one misses, the other plays, barring injury. I ended up deciding on NicNat, as he is potentially a top 3 Ruck, so therefore a Keeper, where as there is little doubt I would need to upgrade Nicholls.
That's the beauty of making 3 or 4 teams during the pre-season. I go with team A if Currie is named, Team B if he's not etc.
My Ruck line is now Martin, NicNat (Currie). I still believe Currie will get games, be a Cash cow, and potentially give us cover, even though there are many that will say it is madness to have a $160k non-playing Rookie on the bench. So far, he is only non-playing this week!
Team C had my Rucks as Martin, Nicholls (Currie), giving the neat pairing of Nicholls and Currie, as when one misses, the other plays, barring injury. I ended up deciding on NicNat, as he is potentially a top 3 Ruck, so therefore a Keeper, where as there is little doubt I would need to upgrade Nicholls.
The obvious fear for everyone is Oliver/Kennedy.
It's not just Brayshaw though, Grimes, Dunn, and probably eventually Petracca are potential best 22 players that may come in, in the first 4 or 5 Rounds. Not all of them present an immediate like for like threat to Oliver/Kennedy, but numbers coming in, can cause a shuffle. It doesn't have to be like for like.
In a more direct answer to your question, the candidates to go out, for Brayshaw to come in are:
Oliver, Kennedy and to a lesser extent, Kent and Harmes and even lesser M Jones.
It's not just Brayshaw though, Grimes, Dunn, and probably eventually Petracca are potential best 22 players that may come in, in the first 4 or 5 Rounds. Not all of them present an immediate like for like threat to Oliver/Kennedy, but numbers coming in, can cause a shuffle. It doesn't have to be like for like.
In a more direct answer to your question, the candidates to go out, for Brayshaw to come in are:
Oliver, Kennedy and to a lesser extent, Kent and Harmes and even lesser M Jones.
Hi ad,
some of your options seem a bit extreme, to bring in a Rookie.
B) Bartel seems more likely to average high 90's than Rich, and they are both unlikely to play 22.
C) Is what you really see as a compromise of Pendles down to Wines, worth it just to get Oliver?!
D) Ditto for C, if you liked Laird that much, he'd be there already, another compromised pick
A) Seems your option, and there are plusses and minusses for both. I'd probably go Dunkley, only because we don't know when we will see Petracca.
Good luck, I hope you jump the right way.
some of your options seem a bit extreme, to bring in a Rookie.
B) Bartel seems more likely to average high 90's than Rich, and they are both unlikely to play 22.
C) Is what you really see as a compromise of Pendles down to Wines, worth it just to get Oliver?!
D) Ditto for C, if you liked Laird that much, he'd be there already, another compromised pick
A) Seems your option, and there are plusses and minusses for both. I'd probably go Dunkley, only because we don't know when we will see Petracca.
Good luck, I hope you jump the right way.
Hi stephen, it was a ripping start, wasn't it?!
I entertained Witts myself, for about 3 minutes when Currie wasn't named. Last year Witts had an interupted pre-season, with shoulder surgery. If we look at a worst case scenario from that, Grundy and Witts played 8 out 14 games together, when both were fit. I can't see Collingwood using Gault/Moore as chop outs on a regular basis, or against teams with strong rucking set ups. Therein lies the problem. Witts highest scores last season were: 83, 82, 81, and his 3 scores when playing without Grundy were: 71, 82, 81. So he averaged 78 without Grundy, and 71 with Grundy in the team, and scored two of his top 3 without Grundy. The two played together around 50% of the time when they were both fit last season, and I can see it happening again this season. Here's the cruncher - He needs to average 79/game just to maintain his price over the first 10-12 Rounds, and that's better than he did last season without Grundy, so it's hard to see him doing it this season, with Grundy. Remember, it only takes one bad score to stall his cash raising. You want a Stepping Stone, not a Piggy Bank.
I really don't share your opinion that he can become a Forward Keeper, unless Grundy gets some sort of LTI. And I can't see him outscoring his price on a consistent enough basis, to make any real cash.
The only problem I see with the plan, is that Witts may not be an easy fix, depending on how long you hold him. You can only go down if you have a link you can bring up, which I guess you might have, if you have Witts. Otherwise you have no choice but to fix him by going up.
I entertained Witts myself, for about 3 minutes when Currie wasn't named. Last year Witts had an interupted pre-season, with shoulder surgery. If we look at a worst case scenario from that, Grundy and Witts played 8 out 14 games together, when both were fit. I can't see Collingwood using Gault/Moore as chop outs on a regular basis, or against teams with strong rucking set ups. Therein lies the problem. Witts highest scores last season were: 83, 82, 81, and his 3 scores when playing without Grundy were: 71, 82, 81. So he averaged 78 without Grundy, and 71 with Grundy in the team, and scored two of his top 3 without Grundy. The two played together around 50% of the time when they were both fit last season, and I can see it happening again this season. Here's the cruncher - He needs to average 79/game just to maintain his price over the first 10-12 Rounds, and that's better than he did last season without Grundy, so it's hard to see him doing it this season, with Grundy. Remember, it only takes one bad score to stall his cash raising. You want a Stepping Stone, not a Piggy Bank.
I really don't share your opinion that he can become a Forward Keeper, unless Grundy gets some sort of LTI. And I can't see him outscoring his price on a consistent enough basis, to make any real cash.
The only problem I see with the plan, is that Witts may not be an easy fix, depending on how long you hold him. You can only go down if you have a link you can bring up, which I guess you might have, if you have Witts. Otherwise you have no choice but to fix him by going up.
Thanks Rowsus.
My plan A was to start Gawn/Currie, which really seemed to make all the other lines seem much better.
Had to go on to plan B with Gawn/NicNat. While I think if fit they'll both be top 5 rucks for the year. You're starting with 2 prem players, but locking yourself into having to change one to Goldy.
Just don't think there is any other ruck suitable to step from.
My plan A was to start Gawn/Currie, which really seemed to make all the other lines seem much better.
Had to go on to plan B with Gawn/NicNat. While I think if fit they'll both be top 5 rucks for the year. You're starting with 2 prem players, but locking yourself into having to change one to Goldy.
Just don't think there is any other ruck suitable to step from.
Hey Rowsus,
Do you think it is worth picking a non-playing player for loophole purposes this year? If I were to pick one donut in the midfield this year, who should it be?
I currently am considering players in the following order
Mathieson>Petracca>Clarke
All should play in a few weeks, and prevents the situation of not having enough trades to cull cash cows at the appropriate time.
Do you think it is worth picking a non-playing player for loophole purposes this year? If I were to pick one donut in the midfield this year, who should it be?
I currently am considering players in the following order
Mathieson>Petracca>Clarke
All should play in a few weeks, and prevents the situation of not having enough trades to cull cash cows at the appropriate time.
Thanks Rowsus for the helpful response on Witts (and apologies for the error ridden original post written late at night). In the cold light of day I'm breaking one of the golden rules by rushing in a spur of the moment selection on day 1 of the season based purely on a surprise team selection. If their is a silver lining though it's enabled me to do a bit of minor tinkering and bring in Goldy (also breaking my own personal rule of paying overs for players) so now content with a Goldy/NN set & forget. Will keep an eye on Witts though, for 100k less I probably would have done it.
Hey Pro,
It can be a good tactic, for a week or three until you naturally have loophole options from missing players anyway. I wouldn't use Mathieson. From that sounds of it, the timing of his injury might have him on the bubble right when we are looking for downgrade targets. Petracca doesn't offer great loopholing in the first 2 weeks, but might give you Menadue's 80 this week, possibly. He also has DPP. We're not sure when he will debut, so he might be in the same boat as Mathieson, timing wise. Clarke is a real unknown factor. He could be in next week, or he could be this seasons Couch, and not appear until Rnd 19! If I was making this move, I would use Petracca. The DPP is just so useful.
It can be a good tactic, for a week or three until you naturally have loophole options from missing players anyway. I wouldn't use Mathieson. From that sounds of it, the timing of his injury might have him on the bubble right when we are looking for downgrade targets. Petracca doesn't offer great loopholing in the first 2 weeks, but might give you Menadue's 80 this week, possibly. He also has DPP. We're not sure when he will debut, so he might be in the same boat as Mathieson, timing wise. Clarke is a real unknown factor. He could be in next week, or he could be this seasons Couch, and not appear until Rnd 19! If I was making this move, I would use Petracca. The DPP is just so useful.
Hey Rowsus, just wanted your thoughts on Mitch Robinson? I feel as if he'll improve on last year with more midfield minutes (although there is always the risk he'll play a slightly negating role) and hopefully push for a 95 average.
I've currently got Barlow and Hall at F1 and F3 respectively, but around that price range I'm not sure who gives a better risk/reward. Currently looking at Zach Merrett/Zorko, would love your thoughts on who's the better option.
I've currently got Barlow and Hall at F1 and F3 respectively, but around that price range I'm not sure who gives a better risk/reward. Currently looking at Zach Merrett/Zorko, would love your thoughts on who's the better option.
Hey MrM,
no I would still take Robbo. I think he has upside. Second year at a new Club, and showed something when the opportunity arose late last season. That opportunity still exists, so I think he has a chance to re-define himself somewhat in SC-terms. Zorko seems to have pegged himself as a 98 - 103 type player, and outside of a spike, and I think that's his range.
Both those are wait and see. When will Beams be back, and what happens to Robbo? If he looks to affected, I will just have to sideways him out.
no I would still take Robbo. I think he has upside. Second year at a new Club, and showed something when the opportunity arose late last season. That opportunity still exists, so I think he has a chance to re-define himself somewhat in SC-terms. Zorko seems to have pegged himself as a 98 - 103 type player, and outside of a spike, and I think that's his range.
Both those are wait and see. When will Beams be back, and what happens to Robbo? If he looks to affected, I will just have to sideways him out.
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