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Which mid pricers/JLT bolters will you be starting?

  • Tuohy

    Votes: 11 11.7%
  • Mills

    Votes: 3 3.2%
  • Bob Murphy

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • Beams

    Votes: 80 85.1%
  • Marc Murphy

    Votes: 4 4.3%
  • Watson

    Votes: 6 6.4%
  • O'Meara

    Votes: 44 46.8%
  • Swallow

    Votes: 29 30.9%
  • Sandilands

    Votes: 80 85.1%
  • Witts

    Votes: 34 36.2%
  • Ryder

    Votes: 10 10.6%
  • Roughead

    Votes: 41 43.6%
  • Higgins

    Votes: 11 11.7%
  • Wingard

    Votes: 2 2.1%
  • Billings

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Nankervis

    Votes: 54 57.4%
  • Steele

    Votes: 28 29.8%
  • Petracca

    Votes: 2 2.1%

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I've been bouncing between Gawn/Sandi and Goldy/Sandi for a while now but I think I'll settle on Goldy/Sandi purely for the $$$ side of things. I just can't risk Witts and be comfortable with it. If I was going to go anyone other than premo/Sandi it'd probably be Nank.
 
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But are you convinced he will score well enough? Rucks are usually somewhere I'd want to play safe and I haven't seen anything that even says Witts is going to play every week. Can someone enlighten me?
I'm not interested in paying 650k for Gawn so I'd rather Witts to start off with. At 200k I'm not too concerned with how he scores but he's discounted and will a make bit of coin. He is definitely a risk, I'd expect an 80 average from a conservative perspective.
 
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But are you convinced he will score well enough? Rucks are usually somewhere I'd want to play safe and I haven't seen anything that even says Witts is going to play every week. Can someone enlighten me?
It's not like he will be sharing the ruck with anyone, Eade has made it pretty clear they won't play 2 rucks and Wright will provide the chop out if need be. You also don't have to be an elite ruckman to score well in Supercoach, rucks get alot of free points by way of H2As, clearances and tackles. Just look at Giles, Lobbe, McKernan when they were given first crack, they're not exactly world beaters and they averaged 80+ easily. Eade just strikes me as that kind of coach that rewards players who work hard and have earned their spot and won't just give games to more established players over those that have shown a willingness to work hard. Witts has done exactly that over the preseason, worked hard, put his head down and made the spot his to lose. Sure, he's competing with Currie, but that's not exactly the toughest competition is it? Witts would know that he's been gifted a huge opportunity to make a career for himself as the no 1 banana at Gold Coast and I don't really see him stuffing that up. If he is out of the team by round 4-5 then so be it, that's why most people are picking Nankervis in the forward lines as it gives you a great out for either Sandi or Witts if they can't string the required 6+ games in a row.
 

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This is good. I like the explanations fellas.

I'm tempted to take the risk but still so hesitant for a few reasons... 217k for Witts... 366k for Nank...

It's confusing spending 217k on Witts and then spending 366k on Nank just in case... When you could go a known premo ruckman and use spare change for a rookie tha's much more likely to make more cash...

Interesting thoughts fellas but yeah... Tough one for me.
 
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This is good. I like the explanations fellas.

I'm tempted to take the risk but still so hesitant for a few reasons... 217k for Witts... 366k for Nank...

It's confusing spending 217k on Witts and then spending 366k on Nank just in case... When you could go a known premo ruckman and use spare change for a rookie tha's much more likely to make more cash...

Interesting thoughts fellas but yeah... Tough one for me.
It's not really spending 366k on Nank though as a contingency for just Witts. He gives you cover for both Sandilands AND Witts. The Witts selection enables me to go MID Premo + Witts in comparison to RUCK Premo + Marchbank/WHE. I feel a lot safer in picking a Pendlebury/JPK type over a Gawn/Goldstein type this year. It certainly is risky starting Witts at R2, and I can understand why the majority are against such a strategy because "Set and Forget!" has been the predominant ruck strategy for a number of years. But I think of all years, with such uncertainty in role surrounding the top 2 rucks from last year, this is the year to try something different!
 

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It's not really spending 366k on Nank though as a contingency for just Witts. He gives you cover for both Sandilands AND Witts. The Witts selection enables me to go MID Premo + Witts in comparison to RUCK Premo + Marchbank/WHE. I feel a lot safer in picking a Pendlebury/JPK type over a Gawn/Goldstein type this year. It certainly is risky starting Witts at R2, and I can understand why the majority are against such a strategy because "Set and Forget!" has been the predominant ruck strategy for a number of years. But I think of all years, with such uncertainty in role surrounding the top 2 rucks from last year, this is the year to try something different!
It's way too risky for me but I can see why people are doing it, Be interesting to see how many do go the classic set and forget (Gawn and Goldy).
 
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It's way too risky for me but I can see why people are doing it, Be interesting to see how many do go the classic set and forget (Gawn and Goldy).
I was planning to but I think I've lost my nerve...that combo locks up a lot of dollars that a lot of other coaches are using to bat very deep in the mids.
Will be interesting to see whether Spencer gets named for the Dees tomorrow night.
 

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I was planning to but I think I've lost my nerve...that combo locks up a lot of dollars that a lot of other coaches are using to bat very deep in the mids.
Will be interesting to see whether Spencer gets named for the Dees tomorrow night.
It's a method that has worked every year, In saying that I'm still taking Sandi
 
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It's way too risky for me but I can see why people are doing it, Be interesting to see how many do go the classic set and forget (Gawn and Goldy).
I was planning to but I think I've lost my nerve...that combo locks up a lot of dollars that a lot of other coaches are using to bat very deep in the mids.
Will be interesting to see whether Spencer gets named for the Dees tomorrow night.
I am, built my team around it from the start so it's been quite easy, set and forget and don't get tempted. Goldys ownership is sitting at only 12% so you'd think those going the combo would be no more than about half that (or 6%) so it's quite POD really. Reality is if they both fire (Gawn is just a beast and Goldy has the history) then I'd say you've won against a Sandi/Nank/Witts/Ryder combo no matter what.

Personally I hoping all those guys fall over early though and/or spud it up to spice things up and make it "Interesting", I feel like I'm owed a bit of ruck Karma after owning Jacobs all last year, good luck :)
 

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I am, built my team around it from the start so it's been quite easy, set and forget and don't get tempted. Goldys ownership is sitting at only 12% so you'd think those going the combo would be no more than about half that (or 6%) so it's quite POD really. Reality is if they both fire (Gawn is just a beast and Goldy has the history) then I'd say you've won against a Sandi/Nank/Witts/Ryder combo no matter what.

Personally I hoping all those guys fall over early though and/or spud it up to spice things up and make it "Interesting", I feel like I'm owed a bit of ruck Karma after owning Jacobs all last year, good luck :)
I agree it could work out massively, the new rule where players can't go third man up could help increase both of their scoring output too
 
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Hey guys - would like to throw up what is looking like my final team (pending rookie selections) and am very keen on your thoughts

DEF: Adams, Laird, Mills, Thurlow, Marchbank, Hampton I/C Stewart, Guthrie

MID: Danger, Kennedy, Hannes, Treloar, Fyfe, O'Meara, Swallow, SPP I/C Pickett, Hibberd, Deluca (F/D)

RUC: Goldy, Sandi I/C Strnadica

FWD: Dahlhaus, Buddy, Greene, Steele, Taranto, Houston I/C Parfitt, Eddy

10k in the bank..

Maybe a bit light in the backs but I think I've made up for it was quality elsewhere.. thoughts? Very much appreciate your feedback!
 
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Hey guys - would like to throw up what is looking like my final team (pending rookie selections) and am very keen on your thoughts

DEF: Adams, Laird, Mills, Thurlow, Marchbank, Hampton I/C Stewart, Guthrie

MID: Danger, Kennedy, Hannes, Treloar, Fyfe, O'Meara, Swallow, SPP I/C Pickett, Hibberd, Deluca (F/D)

RUC: Goldy, Sandi I/C Strnadica

FWD: Dahlhaus, Buddy, Greene, Steele, Taranto, Houston I/C Parfitt, Eddy

10k in the bank..

Maybe a bit light in the backs but I think I've made up for it was quality elsewhere.. thoughts? Very much appreciate your feedback!
Too many midpricers.
 
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Nice team mate!

I do think your backs may be a little too light, but with that said, you cover what you won't get in the backs (with only 2 premiums) by having a BIG midfield.

Good luck!
 
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Too many midpricers.
Thanks for the feedback - what would you suggest changing?

I'd love Mills or Thurlow to be a Doch or Shaw but it means ripping cash out of elsewhere. Do you dump Steele for McCarty to free up some more cash? Just not sure really. I feel like there is value in the mid-pricers picked. Normally I steer clear of them though so this could have been a week of madness and betrayal of everything I hold dear..

We'll try this..

DEF: Doch, Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten I/C Stewart, Guthrie

MID: Danger, Kennedy, Hannes, Treloar, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, SPP I/C Pickett, Hibberd, Deluca (F/D)

RUC: Goldy, Sandi I/C Strnadica

FWD: Dahlhaus, Buddy, Greene, McCarthy, Taranto, Butler I/C Parfitt, Eddy

$5.4k in the bank..
 
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Hey guys - would like to throw up what is looking like my final team (pending rookie selections) and am very keen on your thoughts

DEF: Adams, Laird, Mills, Thurlow, Marchbank, Hampton I/C Stewart, Guthrie

MID: Danger, Kennedy, Hannes, Treloar, Fyfe, O'Meara, Swallow, SPP I/C Pickett, Hibberd, Deluca (F/D)

RUC: Goldy, Sandi I/C Strnadica

FWD: Dahlhaus, Buddy, Greene, Steele, Taranto, Houston I/C Parfitt, Eddy

10k in the bank..

Maybe a bit light in the backs but I think I've made up for it was quality elsewhere.. thoughts? Very much appreciate your feedback!
Not too shabby in my eyes. I'm assuming you focused on reducing the amount of sketchy rookies, in particular on field so you've ended up having a few extra breakout/value picks to the norm.

I can see this team doing well with all the upside but at the same time you are left quite vulnerable due to only having 10 proven premiums (Green and Sandi kinda fall into an awkward category for mine).

Personally, Beams would definitely be one of the value picks i'd be starting. If you were looking to reduce injury risk across that line you could turn JOM/Swallow into Beams/SPS and use the change to turn one of your other mid pricers into an out and out premium.

EDIT: you've made some changes :p I prefer the second option.
 

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OK, I think this is me until the teams arrive. Though I'm questioning every spot apart from Danger and Fyfe at the moment.

DEF: Shaw, Rance, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, EVW, (Otten, Stewart)
MID: Danger, Treloar, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, O'meara, Swallow, SPP, (Barrett, Pickett, Deluca)
RK: Gawn, Sandi (Strnd)
FWD: N. Riewoldt, JJK, Dahl, Rough, Taranto, Eddy, (Butler, Parfitt)

Changed Adams to Rance when I analysed my bye situation.
Bont and Steven have changed spots a number of times. I've toyed with another rookie for O'meara/Swallow, and upgrading Bont to Selwood or Hannebery. Bont had 8 or 9 pretty substandard scores last year - just wonder if the Dogs roundabout of mids means he'll continue this sort of fluctuation.
Suddenly uncomfortable with N.Roo for some reason... he has to slow down eventually, and is probably a bit overpriced. Not sure I can start the top three priced fwds.
Some bench rookies are placeholders until final teams and last minute research.

Anyway, feedback would be great. Thanks.
Very similar team to mine so not much to comment on except maybe your D6 but we'll have a better idea tomorrow night i suppose. I prefer the Marchbank/Hampton D5/6 combination but some may deem that too cautious and perhaps overspending across that line. Personally, my team just looks less vulnerable that way.

I think it's a pretty astute move taking Rance over Adams (over Laird). I'm assuming Adams went because of his lack of durability which is probably marginal over Laird but considering the midfield depth between the two teams, it makes sense. I'm not sure many will have the stones not to start Adams because he just seems a more likely 100+ player but it's something i'm considering as well.

Your "Not sure I can start the top three priced fwds" comment rang very true for me. It's a tough ask to spend that much cash on Rooey when a premium midfielder is somewhere between 10-70k more but here we are, on the eve of the comp, with him sitting at F1 because he plays all those games at Etihad at the start of the year and scores that much better in wins... and never misses games!

JJK i like more because he's got the rd 12 bye but more importantly doesn't share a bye with dahl/mac/bud/steele so is as close to a lock as he can be at this stage.

You've also reminded me that i need to check my bye situation!
 
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Can someone please convince me not to trade selwood out for ablett .... my gut tells me that ablett always starts big...but all the experts say not to get him because hes gonna play foward
 
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Can someone please convince me not to trade selwood out for ablett .... my gut tells me that ablett always starts big...but all the experts say not to get him because hes gonna play foward
What experts do you speak of? If you're referring to the Herald Sun 'experts', I doubt any of them have come close to the 299 ranking you achieved last year, back yourself in.
 
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Can someone please convince me not to trade selwood out for ablett .... my gut tells me that ablett always starts big...but all the experts say not to get him because hes gonna play foward
Do it, see you in the bottom 20,000.









jks I didn't mean it, hope it worked :eek:
 
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