Opinion Questions For Rowsus
- Thread starter Rowsus
- Start date
- Status
G
Him & Simpson helped save my round!
Hey Row, i have a very big decision to make early on, Libba went down and as he was my ticket to Dangerfield i now see it necessary to trade him down and up 1 of Fyfe, Bont, Sloane to Danger.
I know this may sound reactionary and i think it very unlikely i ditch Fyfe but i already had concerns on the other 2 before i picked them!
I remember your stats about Bontempelli and that he only scores well in games the Bulldogs are competitive in i.e win/lose by 14 points either way, now i am not sure if Libba going down helps or hinders him more but if the Bulldogs are not going to be a competitive team this year i think i need to flick him asap.
Sloane: I watched him carefully against the Bombers and it wasn't just Gibbs attending more stopages/center bounces it was also the positioning, when both where at a center bounce i noticed Gibbs always had prime position to get in first and Sloane hung back, it wasn't until ''dire straights'' in the last quarter when they sent Sloane in and he looked back to being the main guy with Crouch, now Adelaide lost but unless they restructure after one loss (which seems unlikely) Sloane is going to continue to suffer because of Gibbs. Lastly but not least, I didn't expect Sloane to really kick of early anyway as he plays 2 of the 4 teams that hard tagged him last year in rounds 3 and 4 but i thought after that he had a great run until Melbourne.
Any/all of your thoughts and observations would be greatly welcomed
Feel free to be blunt as it may help me!
P.S How did your team go this week anyway, hope you got off to a flyer.
Hey Row, i have a very big decision to make early on, Libba went down and as he was my ticket to Dangerfield i now see it necessary to trade him down and up 1 of Fyfe, Bont, Sloane to Danger.
I know this may sound reactionary and i think it very unlikely i ditch Fyfe but i already had concerns on the other 2 before i picked them!
I remember your stats about Bontempelli and that he only scores well in games the Bulldogs are competitive in i.e win/lose by 14 points either way, now i am not sure if Libba going down helps or hinders him more but if the Bulldogs are not going to be a competitive team this year i think i need to flick him asap.
Sloane: I watched him carefully against the Bombers and it wasn't just Gibbs attending more stopages/center bounces it was also the positioning, when both where at a center bounce i noticed Gibbs always had prime position to get in first and Sloane hung back, it wasn't until ''dire straights'' in the last quarter when they sent Sloane in and he looked back to being the main guy with Crouch, now Adelaide lost but unless they restructure after one loss (which seems unlikely) Sloane is going to continue to suffer because of Gibbs. Lastly but not least, I didn't expect Sloane to really kick of early anyway as he plays 2 of the 4 teams that hard tagged him last year in rounds 3 and 4 but i thought after that he had a great run until Melbourne.
Any/all of your thoughts and observations would be greatly welcomed
Feel free to be blunt as it may help me!P.S How did your team go this week anyway, hope you got off to a flyer.
- Joined
- 2 Feb 2017
- Messages
- 425
- Likes
- 358
Hey Row,
Like you, I never intended to start Danger as I thought he’d be available cheaper.
But now that Libba has gone down, do I take the opportunity to bring in Danger while I can and pay 750k, or stick with my original thoughts and try to get him later?
Options are Parker & Acres or Danger & English as the trade-ins this week.
Like you, I never intended to start Danger as I thought he’d be available cheaper.
But now that Libba has gone down, do I take the opportunity to bring in Danger while I can and pay 750k, or stick with my original thoughts and try to get him later?
Options are Parker & Acres or Danger & English as the trade-ins this week.
Him & Simpson helped save my round!
Hey Row, i have a very big decision to make early on, Libba went down and as he was my ticket to Dangerfield i now see it necessary to trade him down and up 1 of Fyfe, Bont, Sloane to Danger.
I know this may sound reactionary and i think it very unlikely i ditch Fyfe but i already had concerns on the other 2 before i picked them!
I remember your stats about Bontempelli and that he only scores well in games the Bulldogs are competitive in i.e win/lose by 14 points either way, now i am not sure if Libba going down helps or hinders him more but if the Bulldogs are not going to be a competitive team this year i think i need to flick him asap.
Sloane: I watched him carefully against the Bombers and it wasn't just Gibbs attending more stopages/center bounces it was also the positioning, when both where at a center bounce i noticed Gibbs always had prime position to get in first and Sloane hung back, it wasn't until ''dire straights'' in the last quarter when they sent Sloane in and he looked back to being the main guy with Crouch, now Adelaide lost but unless they restructure after one loss (which seems unlikely) Sloane is going to continue to suffer because of Gibbs. Lastly but not least, I didn't expect Sloane to really kick of early anyway as he plays 2 of the 4 teams that hard tagged him last year in rounds 3 and 4 but i thought after that he had a great run until Melbourne.
Any/all of your thoughts and observations would be greatly welcomed Feel free to be blunt as it may help me!
P.S How did your team go this week anyway, hope you got off to a flyer.
Hey Row, i have a very big decision to make early on, Libba went down and as he was my ticket to Dangerfield i now see it necessary to trade him down and up 1 of Fyfe, Bont, Sloane to Danger.
I know this may sound reactionary and i think it very unlikely i ditch Fyfe but i already had concerns on the other 2 before i picked them!
I remember your stats about Bontempelli and that he only scores well in games the Bulldogs are competitive in i.e win/lose by 14 points either way, now i am not sure if Libba going down helps or hinders him more but if the Bulldogs are not going to be a competitive team this year i think i need to flick him asap.
Sloane: I watched him carefully against the Bombers and it wasn't just Gibbs attending more stopages/center bounces it was also the positioning, when both where at a center bounce i noticed Gibbs always had prime position to get in first and Sloane hung back, it wasn't until ''dire straights'' in the last quarter when they sent Sloane in and he looked back to being the main guy with Crouch, now Adelaide lost but unless they restructure after one loss (which seems unlikely) Sloane is going to continue to suffer because of Gibbs. Lastly but not least, I didn't expect Sloane to really kick of early anyway as he plays 2 of the 4 teams that hard tagged him last year in rounds 3 and 4 but i thought after that he had a great run until Melbourne.
Any/all of your thoughts and observations would be greatly welcomed
Feel free to be blunt as it may help me!P.S How did your team go this week anyway, hope you got off to a flyer.
while Libba might have been your planned path to Danger, the possibility and option was there to use someone else. You chose not to start Danger for considered reasons, and I'm sure that it wasn't because you thought Libba would blaze a perfect path to the Danger upgrade. That being the case, none of the reasons that you didn't start Danger have changed, it's just your proposed path that has changed. So that means to grab Danger now means you are doing a complete back-flip on your opinion and planning, because Libba got injured. I can't see that the two things are linked, so stick with the plan, and find another avenue to get there.
Similar to above, you chose Bont for considered reasons. Knee-jerking him out on one bad game seems a bad decision, especially as it is the Bulldogs worst game since Bevo took over. It's a completely dissimilar thing to Hannebery in Round 1 last season. Hannebery didn't look right at all, and was playing a different role than the previous season. His good SC is based entirely on his fitness. Some players can drag themselves to decent scores carrying niggles, not Hannebery. There appeared nothing wrong with the Bont, they just got thrashed.
What you see one week, isn't always what you'll see next week. If you watched enough Adelaide games last season, you'd have seen Sloane lining up in different positional roles in different weeks, even at Centre Bounces. One week is too little information to say Gibbs will cut Sloane's lunch for the season. Don't forget Sloane had 8 sub 90's to go with his 9 130+'s last season.
My team got a flat tyre, I missed most of the popular good scores. I'll bounce back though. I hope you went well.
Hi McC, welcome back.
The MN started this season at 5495. Unfortunately, it's impossible to future map it too much. We can expect it to drop around 6-7% in Round 3, after the first price change, but after that, who knows? There are people that believe the MN doesn't change, and the prices receive a "shift" at the end of each round (round 3 and beyond). This theory isn't necessarily wrong, just arriving at the same conclusion, using a different path.
The price change formula I use is:
Price change = (score - B/E) * 440
The MN started this season at 5495. Unfortunately, it's impossible to future map it too much. We can expect it to drop around 6-7% in Round 3, after the first price change, but after that, who knows? There are people that believe the MN doesn't change, and the prices receive a "shift" at the end of each round (round 3 and beyond). This theory isn't necessarily wrong, just arriving at the same conclusion, using a different path.
The price change formula I use is:
Price change = (score - B/E) * 440
Hey TG,
the Dangerfield decision was one of the biggest you made in the pre-season.
Why has Libba getting injured made you doubt the decision you probably took the longest to make?
Stick with your original thoughts. The two things are unrelated.
Also, why would you knee-jerk Acres in on the back of one good score?
His JLT was average, and anyone can pluck a score now and then. Don't forget, it was a home game against Brisbane!
the Dangerfield decision was one of the biggest you made in the pre-season.
Why has Libba getting injured made you doubt the decision you probably took the longest to make?
Stick with your original thoughts. The two things are unrelated.
Also, why would you knee-jerk Acres in on the back of one good score?
His JLT was average, and anyone can pluck a score now and then. Don't forget, it was a home game against Brisbane!
Last edited:
- Joined
- 29 Jan 2014
- Messages
- 996
- Likes
- 75
- AFL Club
- Essendon
Cheers Rowsus.
Would you have any idea what it ends up around on average? Any rough guess would be great if you do indeed have some idea.
I'm assuming that it have to do with the total price of all the player in total or something to that effect. Hence the big drop in round 3 when all the prices rise. Do you have a theory?
Thanks again
I'll need to trade well to move myself out of the round 1 hole i've dug!
Would you have any idea what it ends up around on average? Any rough guess would be great if you do indeed have some idea.
I'm assuming that it have to do with the total price of all the player in total or something to that effect. Hence the big drop in round 3 when all the prices rise. Do you have a theory?
Thanks again
I'll need to trade well to move myself out of the round 1 hole i've dug!
You're on the right track.
Round 3 is when the biggest group of Rookie and lower priced players receive their biggest value jump. Hence the MN takes it's biggest hit.
How far it fall for the season depends on how many Rookie and lower priced players play, and how well they perform.
Usually by Round 5 or 6 it gets to a stage that it doesn't move that much, and sometimes even has a week where it bounces back up a little.
I'm going to adjust my Round 3 drop to 5-5.5%, and say the approximate end value will be around 5100.
Round 3 is when the biggest group of Rookie and lower priced players receive their biggest value jump. Hence the MN takes it's biggest hit.
How far it fall for the season depends on how many Rookie and lower priced players play, and how well they perform.
Usually by Round 5 or 6 it gets to a stage that it doesn't move that much, and sometimes even has a week where it bounces back up a little.
I'm going to adjust my Round 3 drop to 5-5.5%, and say the approximate end value will be around 5100.
Hey Rowsus, with Crouch out for ~3+ weeks I'll be looking to trade him out, but unfortunately I've only got $700 so the only way is down.
I've got Cripps and Cogs out of the 'higher end' mid-pricers so right now I'm looking at Parker or Gibbs. Gibbs has been particularly impressive, and I'll wait to see how Hanners affects Parker's scoring this week, but what are your thoughts on these two?
I've got Cripps and Cogs out of the 'higher end' mid-pricers so right now I'm looking at Parker or Gibbs. Gibbs has been particularly impressive, and I'll wait to see how Hanners affects Parker's scoring this week, but what are your thoughts on these two?
Hey TG,
I'm thinking he has to go, too. He's committing some on-field sins I just hate to see. I know he's an outside player, but he's running past contests he should be becoming involved in, and that's one of my pet hates. When Greenwood kicked that goal yesterday, after side stepping a player, it was Lambert he side-stepped (easily), and I don't think Lambert got a glove on him! A "committed" player would have charged his body at Greenwood's centre of gravity, Lambert was "flying by" and was hoping to tackle with his arms, not arms and body.
Completely sinful, and that sort of play won't get you a game in my team, unless you are consistently racking up 20+ touches and a couple of goals.
I'm not sure who will replace him yet, but he will be replaced. I make his B/E around 152, so if he coughs up something around 70 this week, he drops $35k. If he's tricky to replace now, it will only get worse after next week!
I'm thinking he has to go, too. He's committing some on-field sins I just hate to see. I know he's an outside player, but he's running past contests he should be becoming involved in, and that's one of my pet hates. When Greenwood kicked that goal yesterday, after side stepping a player, it was Lambert he side-stepped (easily), and I don't think Lambert got a glove on him! A "committed" player would have charged his body at Greenwood's centre of gravity, Lambert was "flying by" and was hoping to tackle with his arms, not arms and body.
Completely sinful, and that sort of play won't get you a game in my team, unless you are consistently racking up 20+ touches and a couple of goals.
I'm not sure who will replace him yet, but he will be replaced. I make his B/E around 152, so if he coughs up something around 70 this week, he drops $35k. If he's tricky to replace now, it will only get worse after next week!
Hey Rowsus I currently do not have Dangerfield and D. Martin and can make a correction with Matt Crouch going down. Both are undoubtedly must-haves by seasons end by i'm having difficulties on deciding which one to hop on first.
By going D.Martin i'm fixing up a massive Negative Pod 53.5% who has looked to elevate his game this year. On the other-hand, by going Dangerfield i think i could potentially get on him while his ownership is still relatively low 19.3%. I'm actually currently leaning to Dangerfield because of his proven history but i'm worried that D.Martin can cause some serious damage until i gather enough funds to eventually trade him in.
Thoughts?
By going D.Martin i'm fixing up a massive Negative Pod 53.5%
who has looked to elevate his game this year. On the other-hand, by going Dangerfield i think i could potentially get on him while his ownership is still relatively low 19.3%. I'm actually currently leaning to Dangerfield because of his proven history but i'm worried that D.Martin can cause some serious damage until i gather enough funds to eventually trade him in.Thoughts?
Hey Rowsus I currently do not have Dangerfield and D. Martin and can make a correction with Matt Crouch going down. Both are undoubtedly must-haves by seasons end by i'm having difficulties on deciding which one to hop on first.
By going D.Martin i'm fixing up a massive Negative Pod 53.5% who has looked to elevate his game this year. On the other-hand, by going Dangerfield i think i could potentially get on him while his ownership is still relatively low 19.3%. I'm actually currently leaning to Dangerfield because of his proven history but i'm worried that D.Martin can cause some serious damage until i gather enough funds to eventually trade him in.
Thoughts?
By going D.Martin i'm fixing up a massive Negative Pod 53.5%
who has looked to elevate his game this year. On the other-hand, by going Dangerfield i think i could potentially get on him while his ownership is still relatively low 19.3%. I'm actually currently leaning to Dangerfield because of his proven history but i'm worried that D.Martin can cause some serious damage until i gather enough funds to eventually trade him in.Thoughts?
Dusty is very likely to go up in price after Round 3, and Danger nearly has to drop in price. If the choice is out of those 2, choose Dusty. He's a good deal cheaper than Danger for now anyway.
Hey mate, hope you've had a good start to the season!
Keen to get your opinion on the merit of a Zorko to Cogs trade. I obviously picked Zorko thinking he'll be a 112-115 player (was pretty confident in that) but so far he's been heavily tagged 2/2 games and has Ebert & Holman in 2 of his next 3. He is a pretty outside player so the tag badly affects him. In seasons gone he has had the odd game where he's been tagged so I was under no illusions there would be the odd poor score but 2 tags from 2 games doesn't fill me with confidence moving forward.
Cogs looks like a good pick and by pocketing 150k it helps justify the premium swap but I remain unsure as I still think Zorko will be a decent averaging player.
Thanks!
Keen to get your opinion on the merit of a Zorko to Cogs trade. I obviously picked Zorko thinking he'll be a 112-115 player (was pretty confident in that) but so far he's been heavily tagged 2/2 games and has Ebert & Holman in 2 of his next 3. He is a pretty outside player so the tag badly affects him. In seasons gone he has had the odd game where he's been tagged so I was under no illusions there would be the odd poor score but 2 tags from 2 games doesn't fill me with confidence moving forward.
Cogs looks like a good pick and by pocketing 150k it helps justify the premium swap but I remain unsure as I still think Zorko will be a decent averaging player.
Thanks!
- Joined
- 2 Feb 2017
- Messages
- 425
- Likes
- 358
Hey mate,
Are we seeing the re-emergence of the key forward?
Already seen some monster scores from Buddy, Lynch, Hogan and a few others.
I usually steer clear of key forwards but could the first few rounds suggest they are worth considering this year?
Hogan is one I’m eyeing off with Melbourne’s soft early draw.
Are we seeing the re-emergence of the key forward?
Already seen some monster scores from Buddy, Lynch, Hogan and a few others.
I usually steer clear of key forwards but could the first few rounds suggest they are worth considering this year?
Hogan is one I’m eyeing off with Melbourne’s soft early draw.
Hey ZP,
poorish last week, nabbed a lot of the good scores this week (Lynch, Martin, Sloane), but 4 poor onfield scores will hold me to around par for the week. I hope you're doing better.
I'm going a similar tac, and contemplating Neale to Coniglio. Cash grab, and their output will probably end up similar, if Coniglio stays fit. Neale seems to be the one paying the most, to get the young guys some Midfield time, and he's back to his old ways of getting 27-30 disposal for 100 SC, though I'm sure that will correct itself as we go on.
I understand your concern with Zorko, but yesterday also proved, they don't have to let him off the chain for long, for him to score quickly. Sides quite often loosen the grip of the tag a little, if it looks like they are winning easily. As We found out yesterday, that can sometimes be a mistake! Also, I think there are only 3 or 4 true taggers in the League, and the rest are more run-with type players.
Ebert is a concern, I'm not sure I'd let Holman put me off. Either way, I guess ridding yourself of Zorko avoids his inevitable price drop, with his B/E around 217. Mind you, that 32 drops straight after his first price change.
I think Zorko can and will be in that 105-110 area from here for the season. Having said that, Coniglio looks a need to have (B/E around 12), and if you have no other path to him, then not losing any Zorko cash is as good as any.
poorish last week, nabbed a lot of the good scores this week (Lynch, Martin, Sloane), but 4 poor onfield scores will hold me to around par for the week. I hope you're doing better.
I'm going a similar tac, and contemplating Neale to Coniglio. Cash grab, and their output will probably end up similar, if Coniglio stays fit. Neale seems to be the one paying the most, to get the young guys some Midfield time, and he's back to his old ways of getting 27-30 disposal for 100 SC, though I'm sure that will correct itself as we go on.
I understand your concern with Zorko, but yesterday also proved, they don't have to let him off the chain for long, for him to score quickly. Sides quite often loosen the grip of the tag a little, if it looks like they are winning easily. As We found out yesterday, that can sometimes be a mistake! Also, I think there are only 3 or 4 true taggers in the League, and the rest are more run-with type players.
Ebert is a concern, I'm not sure I'd let Holman put me off. Either way, I guess ridding yourself of Zorko avoids his inevitable price drop, with his B/E around 217. Mind you, that 32 drops straight after his first price change.
I think Zorko can and will be in that 105-110 area from here for the season. Having said that, Coniglio looks a need to have (B/E around 12), and if you have no other path to him, then not losing any Zorko cash is as good as any.
Hey mate,
I'm not sure I'd be trying to predict too many trends off the back of 1.7 Rounds.
Last season there were only 5 occassions where 7 or more goals were kicked by an individual:
Franklin 10 & 8
Kennedy, Brown & Lynch 7
We've had 2 this season. Not entirely unexpected.
I think this season will be the same as most. Your better Key forwards will have a mix of a couple of really high scores, some good high scores, but a handful of poor ones as well.
Picking the right one, at the right time, is the key. I did a pre-season thread on it, and my Draw analysis said, the 2 with the best Draw early on was Lynch and Dixon, hence why I started Lynch.
I'm not sure I'd be trying to predict too many trends off the back of 1.7 Rounds.
Last season there were only 5 occassions where 7 or more goals were kicked by an individual:
Franklin 10 & 8
Kennedy, Brown & Lynch 7
We've had 2 this season. Not entirely unexpected.
I think this season will be the same as most. Your better Key forwards will have a mix of a couple of really high scores, some good high scores, but a handful of poor ones as well.
Picking the right one, at the right time, is the key. I did a pre-season thread on it, and my Draw analysis said, the 2 with the best Draw early on was Lynch and Dixon, hence why I started Lynch.
- Status