Position Forwards Discussion

Which forwards will you be starting outside of Danger/Heeney? (new poll 4/3/19)

  • Gray $526k

    Votes: 11 8.6%
  • Mundy $521k

    Votes: 17 13.3%
  • Menegola $543k

    Votes: 18 14.1%
  • McLean $514k

    Votes: 6 4.7%
  • Kelly $506k

    Votes: 28 21.9%
  • Boak $477k

    Votes: 11 8.6%
  • Billings $438k

    Votes: 29 22.7%
  • Gresham $430k

    Votes: 3 2.3%
  • Worpel $396k

    Votes: 20 15.6%
  • Greene $354k

    Votes: 33 25.8%

  • Total voters
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SC scoring freak as a junior. 90+ average a realistic possibility I feel in an improving Richmond side without mids seemingly stealing all the points pie. A 95 average would be a win for sure.
I’m not sure Richmond are improving this year. Seems to be some thoughts around that the new 666 will work against them and they also lack some depth due to departure of some of their 2nd tier players. Time will tell of course.
 
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Full training for 2 weeks. If he were proper fit he'd be not even considering VFL. Great upgrade target - if he gets to round 7 or 8 averaging 75-80, I'd back him in to finish the year averaging 85-90, that's a worthwhile pick-up.

Season averages of 83, 88, 93, 85, 78. So I'd say the 85-90 range is achievable, with a slow start to the year.

Say 88 for the year from 22 games = 1936 points. 77 after 7 = 539. So the next 15 games is 93.1.
Boosted from big scores v GC and Carlton in the last 8 weeks of the year.
 
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I’m not sure Richmond are improving this year. Seems to be some thoughts around that the new 666 will work against them and they also lack some depth due to departure of some of their 2nd tier players. Time will tell of course.
Difficult to predict but I'd have thought if 6-6-6 suited them they would have lined up more often in that style. Instead they barely ever went 6-6-6 and went 8-6-4 commonly which to me says they don't prefer the set up.
 
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surely 6-6-6 is built for darling?

underpriced as well with a -1 and another bad score
this interests me , I thought Simpson came out after JLT1 and said the forward line was more crowded than normal because of 6-6-6 and there wasn't as much available space to work in , not sure how that helps Darling , unless I have completely misunderstood the whole thing ?
 
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Toby McLean will return to attack this season as the Dogs search for greater avenues to goal.
A breakout midfielder last season, the 23-year-old is set to be deployed in the forward 50 as Luke Beveridge prepares for deeper options in the centre square.
The move comes as Tom Liberatore returns from injury, Josh Dunkley takes on greater responsibility and No.6 draft pick Bailey Smith emerges as a midfield talent.
"I think it will be (life as a forward), especially for the first half of the year," McLean told AFL.com.au at the Dogs' season launch.
"With 'Libba' (Liberatore) coming back, he's huge and his influence in the midfield is massive for us, so I think I will see a bit more time forward.
"It's good to try new things, I had a lot of mid time last year and it's good to change it up."
Rather than seeing the switch as a demotion, McLean views it as a valuable addition to a side ranked No.15 in the competition in 2018 for total scores.
"Everything's based on your pressure and the defensive side of things," McLean said.
"For me it's all about that and keeping the ball in the forward line for us boys and help us score easier.
"As one of the smaller boys I've got to get to the drop of the ball for Aaron Naughton and Josh Schache.
"That seems such a long time ago now (2016 Grand Final). I was only a skinny boy back then and hopefully you can tell I've put on a bit of weight."
Now 79kg and sporting a beard that he hasn't shaved since last year's best and fairest, McLean said he'll continue to stick with it to "just make me look a little angrier."

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03...m=feed&utm_campaign=RSS+feed:+AFL+Latest+News
 
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SC scoring freak as a junior. 90+ average a realistic possibility I feel in an improving Richmond side without mids seemingly stealing all the points pie. A 95 average would be a win for sure.
My worry with the Higgins pick is the same fear I have with Papley, both blokes are tiny height wise, and although both may pinch hit through the mids at times, I just can't see the minutes becoming overly significant due to their size. Although i guess Zorko showed how its done so you never know.
 

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Toby McLean will return to attack this season as the Dogs search for greater avenues to goal.
A breakout midfielder last season, the 23-year-old is set to be deployed in the forward 50 as Luke Beveridge prepares for deeper options in the centre square.
Pretty much matches what he did in JLT2
 
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Toby McLean will return to attack this season as the Dogs search for greater avenues to goal.
A breakout midfielder last season, the 23-year-old is set to be deployed in the forward 50 as Luke Beveridge prepares for deeper options in the centre square.
The move comes as Tom Liberatore returns from injury, Josh Dunkley takes on greater responsibility and No.6 draft pick Bailey Smith emerges as a midfield talent.
"I think it will be (life as a forward), especially for the first half of the year," McLean told AFL.com.au at the Dogs' season launch.
"With 'Libba' (Liberatore) coming back, he's huge and his influence in the midfield is massive for us, so I think I will see a bit more time forward.
"It's good to try new things, I had a lot of mid time last year and it's good to change it up."
Rather than seeing the switch as a demotion, McLean views it as a valuable addition to a side ranked No.15 in the competition in 2018 for total scores.
"Everything's based on your pressure and the defensive side of things," McLean said.
"For me it's all about that and keeping the ball in the forward line for us boys and help us score easier.
"As one of the smaller boys I've got to get to the drop of the ball for Aaron Naughton and Josh Schache.
"That seems such a long time ago now (2016 Grand Final). I was only a skinny boy back then and hopefully you can tell I've put on a bit of weight."
Now 79kg and sporting a beard that he hasn't shaved since last year's best and fairest, McLean said he'll continue to stick with it to "just make me look a little angrier."

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-16/off-the-leash-dog-mclean-looking-a-little-angrier-set-to-attack-2019?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=RSS+feed:+AFL+Latest+News
That’s very good news for Dunkley owners.
 
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this interests me , I thought Simpson came out after JLT1 and said the forward line was more crowded than normal because of 6-6-6 and there wasn't as much available space to work in , not sure how that helps Darling , unless I have completely misunderstood the whole thing ?
it suits him because of the type of forward he is @Lost In The Sky could explain it better hopefully:)
 
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it suits him because of the type of forward he is @Lost In The Sky could explain it better hopefully:)
I don't recall hearing those coments from Simmo, but I haven't seen all of his press comments.

The 6-6-6 setup from center bounces helps the key forwards because in previous years, most teams liked to play an extra defender behind the ball, which often meant the key forwards where battling two vs one in a lot of contests. This year from center bounces... the teams that can get a quick getaway from the bounce, will be kicking it to a straight one vs one contest. This benefits a player like Darling in a couple of ways, firstly he is a very strong physically, so in a one vs one contest he has an edge. And secondly he has elite endurace and really good speed for a big fella, That means he can put some distance on his defender and run into open space and mark the ball.

The thing I like about Darling is that form from round 1-10 last year before the ankle injury, He was clearly the best key forward in the game over that period and one of the best players in the comp. Having seen him in person numerous times this pre-season including match sim stuff... He looks to be in that form again. With a good early draw, I think he is going to start the season really strong.
 
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Cheers mate , for all the talk of 6-6-6 I really hope the umpires have learnt to bounce the ball correctly EVERY time to give the Rucks a fair contest.

TV won't really show us how good 6-6-6 is , and how much extra space is available.

Still think the BP may have time to go 3rd man up if teams are relying on a 50-60m clean takeaway and kick from the bounce.

Blighty thinks we might see Full Forwards scoring 100 goals again , he may also be going senile hahaha.

Was reading some reports from different club practice matches and people were saying they were still able to sit up a loose man within 15 seconds.

Given one D & F have to be in the goal square , I would think one BP would be in his hip pocket and the other would be 10 metres in front.

Then can the takeaway player lookup and change is kick and decision in a split second , not sure.

Hopefully we get to see some behind the goal vision to see how it works.

Fingers crossed the AFL have got it right.
 
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