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Which team wins a final first?

  • Essendon

    Votes: 23 28.4%
  • Tasmania

    Votes: 58 71.6%

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First 2 rounds no supporters then assess.
Just play the finals in October. All games under lights.

Maybe even all teams get the same bye rounds of 2weeks middle of the season after round 11 fixtures.
Rather miss 1 or 2 weeks in the middle of the season than the whole season thrown into turmoil.
 
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First 2 rounds no supporters then assess.
Just play the finals in October. All games under lights.

Maybe even all teams get the same bye rounds of 2weeks middle of the season after round 11 fixtures.
Rather miss 1 or 2 weeks in the middle of the season than the whole season thrown into turmoil.
What's the lights thing? I seemed to have missed it.
 
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So they are allowed to let the first 500 in the queue in? ;)
Be interesting to see who they actually let in

45-50 on the playing list + partners , family

coaches , assistants , assistant to the assistants , analysts , support staff , 2 doctors , 2 physios , trainers = another 50 or so

President , board members , influential supporters

Umpires & staff
Media
Ground staff
Gill & his entourage

surely they let the cheer squad attend
 
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I'm amazed by the NRL putting the pressure on the Gov for funding to remain afloat and no doubt the AFL also, I truly feel for these clubs and highly paid CEO's and players etc......But you know what, I really feel for old mate who is already struggling that works longs hours in hospitality or tourism or whatever industry that may lose his/her job and/or business. Will the $750 that they possibly get save their asses?

Bigger problems in the world here then putting sport on hold for a few months. I get the jobs and multi-millions tied up in this but it shouldn't be money driving decisions.
 
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I'm amazed by the NRL putting the pressure on the Gov for funding to remain afloat and no doubt the AFL also, I truly feel for these clubs and highly paid CEO's and players etc......But you know what, I really feel for old mate who is already struggling that works longs hours in hospitality or tourism or whatever industry that may lose his/her job and/or business. Will the $750 that they possibly get save their asses?

Bigger problems in the world here then putting sport on hold for a few months. I get the jobs and multi-millions tied up in this but it shouldn't be money driving decisions.
100% agree.

I’m pretty sure I’ve read that the average AFL player earns around $380k - and I’m sure the AFL itself is getting its share of the pie.

I suspect if they’re asking for support, that will go down poorly with a lot of fans who are doing it tough.
 

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I'm amazed by the NRL putting the pressure on the Gov for funding to remain afloat and no doubt the AFL also, I truly feel for these clubs and highly paid CEO's and players etc......But you know what, I really feel for old mate who is already struggling that works longs hours in hospitality or tourism or whatever industry that may lose his/her job and/or business. Will the $750 that they possibly get save their asses?

Bigger problems in the world here then putting sport on hold for a few months. I get the jobs and multi-millions tied up in this but it shouldn't be money driving decisions.
$750 won't cover a normal Tuesday in low season, including not paying myself. Self isolation is impractical in our circumstances. We are in a world of uncertainty.

The boat crews and hospitality workers up here don't know what the future holds. Their are a number of "crisis" meetings in the next few days.

The media conjecture and fearmongering headlines do not help anyone. I will hold my tongue!
 
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Gil and co are wanting the Gov to force a close so they can declare "force majeure" on the TV contracts.

Who loses there? Channel 7 who will be pressuring the Gov not to call it.

I do wonder what kinds of insurance and re insurance they have for sporting contracts
 
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Gil and co are wanting the Gov to force a close so they can declare "force majeure" on the TV contracts.

Who loses there? Channel 7 who will be pressuring the Gov not to call it.

I do wonder what kinds of insurance and re insurance they have for sporting contracts
Yeah I get this and it sucks, in fact I'm waiting for this to happen for a snowboarding trip I booked to NZ in July. I've paid $3.5k and because NZ and Aus have now imposed 14 day isolation periods my trip as gone from 10 days to 38 days. But because theoretically I can still go it'll be me cancelling the trip and losing the money. Sucks for me, but what do you do.

If ever we all needed to help each other out now is the time, we'll all need to take a hit in some capacity but seeing some corporates whine like @Darkie mentioned won't be looked at well. I mean at least Alan Joyce came out and said he wouldn't draw a salary for the remainder of the fin year.

Be interesting to see who is prepared to take a hit in a time like this and who will be a @%#*
 
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Health of the players should be above all. There is no footy without them. I hope we don’t go down the path of cramming in more games to start the season. It would increase the risk of injury as recovery time is less while also weakening their immune system and making them more susceptible to getting sick (COVID-19 or not). Also from a SC point of view, I just can’t see any player being allowed to play 7 games in 4 weeks or whatever it is, it just wouldn’t make any sense from a injury prevention point of view. Players would have to be rested and that would make it harder to enjoy SC.
I’d much rather they play a shorter season of say 17 games after delaying the start of season. It gives everyone time to assess more information about the current situation and we get a (forced) trial of a 17 game season, which I think is the most fair way to fixture the AFL season (ie play everyone once). And if it comes to it, I much prefer everyone get out of this situation with no/minimal health effects and possibly have no footy played this season (if it comes to it) as opposed to some mongrel fixture used to appease commercial interests. We really need to take a long-term view with this. Hopefully rational heads prevail.
 
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Yeah I get this and it sucks, in fact I'm waiting for this to happen for a snowboarding trip I booked to NZ in July. I've paid $3.5k and because NZ and Aus have now imposed 14 day isolation periods my trip as gone from 10 days to 38 days. But because theoretically I can still go it'll be me cancelling the trip and losing the money. Sucks for me, but what do you do.

If ever we all needed to help each other out now is the time, we'll all need to take a hit in some capacity but seeing some corporates whine like @Darkie mentioned won't be looked at well. I mean at least Alan Joyce came out and said he wouldn't draw a salary for the remainder of the fin year.

Be interesting to see who is prepared to take a hit in a time like this and who will be a @%#*
NZ airlines now have a free credit for bookings made during a certain period. Others will follow, so check it out. Expedia, etc have similar policies and/or refunds available. Keep checking.

I would also think that after a month of no inbound flights Aus and NZ may well allow travel between each other.
 
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Health of the players should be above all. There is no footy without them. I hope we don’t go down the path of cramming in more games to start the season. It would increase the risk of injury as recovery time is less while also weakening their immune system and making them more susceptible to getting sick (COVID-19 or not). Also from a SC point of view, I just can’t see any player being allowed to play 7 games in 4 weeks or whatever it is, it just wouldn’t make any sense from a injury prevention point of view. Players would have to be rested and that would make it harder to enjoy SC.
I’d much rather they play a shorter season of say 17 games after delaying the start of season. It gives everyone time to assess more information about the current situation and we get (forced) trial of a 17 game season, which I think is the most fair way to fixture the AFL season (ie play everyone once). And if it comes to it, I much prefer everyone get out of this situation with no/minimal health effects and possibly have no footy played this season (if it comes to it) as opposed to some mongrel fixture used to appease commercial interests. We really need to take a long-term view with this. Hopefully rational heads prevail.
I’d argue the health of everyone should be above all, these measures are being put in place to control a pandemic and that’s what we can’t lose sight of. If we can manage that whilst maintaining the health and safety of the players and delivering footy games than great but I do feel we are being skewed more towards corporate greed and commercial interest like you say.
 
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Health of the players should be above all. There is no footy without them. I hope we don’t go down the path of cramming in more games to start the season. It would increase the risk of injury as recovery time is less while also weakening their immune system and making them more susceptible to getting sick (COVID-19 or not). Also from a SC point of view, I just can’t see any player being allowed to play 7 games in 4 weeks or whatever it is, it just wouldn’t make any sense from a injury prevention point of view. Players would have to be rested and that would make it harder to enjoy SC.
I’d much rather they play a shorter season of say 17 games after delaying the start of season. It gives everyone time to assess more information about the current situation and we get (forced) trial of a 17 game season, which I think is the most fair way to fixture the AFL season (ie play everyone once). And if it comes to it, I much prefer everyone get out of this situation with no/minimal health effects and possibly have no footy played this season (if it comes to it) as opposed to some mongrel fixture used to appease commercial interests. We really need to take a long-term view with this. Hopefully rational heads prevail.
It will all come down to one thing. Money. Everything else seems to be secondary. I expect nothing less though from the AFL.

I do agree with you completely - don't make things unsafe and risk the players health just to get some games in. I would much rather have no footy be played than having to bring in substitute players to avoid burn out of the stars, just to fulfil a TV deal. Much as I like my footy, the right decision is to call it off like almost every single sporting league anywhere else in the world.
 
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NZ airlines now have a free credit for bookings made during a certain period. Others will follow, so check it out. Expedia, etc have similar policies and/or refunds available. Keep checking.

I would also think that after a month of no inbound flights Aus and NZ may well allow travel between each other.
Thanks for that heads up, I’m booked through Liquid Snow so I’ve asked the question. I’d rather leave it in place or have a credit so at least the money can remain on their books, I’m happy to head back to Japan early next year again with the credit so will see how it pans out. It’s still a long way from July so let’s hope we are all in a much better space then. ?
 
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As I read somewhere, this is a **** sandwich and everyone has to take a bite.

The agruements at the moment is who is going to be taking the bigger bites.
 
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I’d argue the health of everyone should be above all, these measures are being put in place to control a pandemic and that’s what we can’t lose sight of. If we can manage that whilst maintaining the health and safety of the players and delivering footy games than great but I do feel we are being skewed more towards corporate greed and commercial interest like you say.
Of course, I agree public health is most important thing. But purely focusing on footy, the players need to be looked after because there is no show without them. And they are also human being who have families and friends to look after and interact with.
I just think it is increasingly unlikely that at least 1 player won't get infected at some point in time, especially if we put off the social shutdown that seems to be needed to really contain the virus and reduce the exposure. Luckily, it doesn't seem to be as deadly as other pandemics in that it's not going to majorly affect most people, but it is spreading quite quickly. I think the AFL will have little choice but to postpone eventually.
I hate that we are all in this position but it is what it is. We shouldn't really ever be in a position where we are weighing up the dollar value of sport VS public health, especially when lives are at risk for those who are vulnerable. It should be a no-brainer, but as Wu-Tang Clan rapped back in the 90’s - "Cash Rules Everything Around Me"...
 
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