Discussion 2021: Strategy, Team & Player Discussions

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There are lots of ways. Most years there are one or two really good rookies who make it to 350k+. Downgrade them to a 123k rookie to make 225k and use that to fund a 425k Preuss up to a 650k Gawn.

Or maybe you sell one of those cheap KPFs (Daniher, Ben Brown, Jeremy Cameron) after they get a couple of big scores.

Or if things are really skinny on the rookie front you might have to seek value with your upgrade the week before to make sure you have some money in the bank to make up the extra. But if things are really tight on the money-making front it makes picks like Preuss even more important.
That's very true as well (didn't factor that in).

If I start Preuss then I better start researching for these rookies.
 
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Most years this is a concern with mid-price rucks but not sure it is this year, if you think Marshall is a good starting pick anyway. Lots of very appealing options in the 200-300k range up forward (too many for me to fit in) so it's a pretty easy bail out to swing Marshall into rucks and pick up whichever one of the supercheap KPFs looks like making some quick $$$
Of course. Ignore me, I am still in holiday mode...
 
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Also, people have mentioned that collectively, Gawn+Grundy costs about the same in 2021 as it did in 2020, with Grundy cheaper and Gawn more expensive, so the extra spend on Gawn could be recouped by Grundy.[/QUOTE

Preuss such a small game sample and hasn’t average over 70.? Martin is cheaper but you just know he will miss games. ROB is the only other I will consider depends on how the rookies line up.

RD1 Darcy
RD2 Marshall/Paddy
RD3 Pruess/Mummy
RD4DeKonong
RD5Big Boy
RD6 Nank

Good Chance the “beard” goes large in one of these matchups possibly 2.
If that happens will be difficult to find the coin to bring him in.

This year it’s a smorgasbord of mid price.

For me it’s Taranto and one of Hately or Hepple. I won’t be messing around with the Ruck Line. Set and Forget.
 
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I think Preuss is a far better option than Heppell. Hately might be an alternative, but being the #1 ruck (which I believe Preuss will be for the majority of the season), is far more lucrative imo than a midfield/half-back role. Hately potentially plays inside mid which is potential 105 average so I'd be more bullish on him.
 
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I think Preuss is a far better option than Heppell. Hately might be an alternative, but being the #1 ruck (which I believe Preuss will be for the majority of the season), is far more lucrative imo than a midfield/half-back role. Hately potentially plays inside mid which is potential 105 average so I'd be more bullish on him.
I find that interesting, why are you not at all keen on Heppell as an option if he is fit? Seems to me like a lock if he's fit. I have both Preuss and Heppell atm, if I had to pick one I'm picking a fit Heppell as he should go 95-105.

Not sure why people are so keen on Hately, he has no proven history as a scorer and is only in his 3rd year so I would very very surprised if he averages 105. He's going to get more mid time but he was a no. 14 draft pick (not a massively rated junior talent) and has shown very little in scoring ability so far in his career.
 

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Only 31 mid eligible players averaged 100 last year - less than two per side.

I know we always take about more mid time as a big tailwind, and it is, but averaging 100 is actually pretty hard to do even with decent opportunity.
 
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Cripps burnt me last year! Is he a must have or not? thoughts?
He's absolutely a must have. In a season where almost all the premium midfielders are either coming off career best seasons by 5-10 avg or have other issues like Macrae (Treloar) and Titch (Pre-season), someone like Cripps who has the potential to average 120 priced at under 100 is an absolute steal.
 
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I find that interesting, why are you not at all keen on Heppell as an option if he is fit? Seems to me like a lock if he's fit. I have both Preuss and Heppell atm, if I had to pick one I'm picking a fit Heppell as he should go 95-105.

Not sure why people are so keen on Hately, he has no proven history as a scorer and is only in his 3rd year so I would very very surprised if he averages 105. He's going to get more mid time but he was a no. 14 draft pick (not a massively rated junior talent) and has shown very little in scoring ability so far in his career.
To be honest it's mostly gut feel on potential role and I'd rather take a punt on someone with breakout potential over someone who has been tracking at high 90s the past few seasons.

Hately also had to contend with breaking into GWS so he hasn't had the inside midfield role he'll most likely have at the Crows.
 
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Cripps burnt me last year! Is he a must have or not? thoughts?
Me too. Has been a poor scorer for 18 months with the occasional spike. I won’t be touching him unless he regains consistency and I don’t expect that to happen with the evolution of the Carlton side.
He's absolutely a must have. In a season where almost all the premium midfielders are either coming off career best seasons by 5-10 avg or have other issues like Macrae (Treloar) and Titch (Pre-season), someone like Cripps who has the potential to average 120 priced at under 100 is an absolute steal.
Sorted that one out for you. What’s your next question?
 
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For me, since there are so many excellent scorers that have perceived potential to be overpriced (talking Lloyd, Neale, Gawn as the most obvious examples), players like Cripps who are proven excellent performers, at peak age and at a discount must be under serious consideration so as to be able to afford the more expensive players. Sure, there are risks but I'd suggest that at his price, there's no one that comes close to Cripps proven potential to score big. And he's not in the age profile where he should be in a downward trend.
 
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First of no doubt many.. (Depend on rookies etc)

Def: Lloyd, Laird, Ryan, DGB, Jones, Roberton, Wher, Laurie

Mid: Neale, Titch, Cripps, Rowell, Heppell, Phillips, Powell, Davies, McInnes, Downie, Bowey

Ruc: Grawndy, Treacy

Fwd: Danger, Marshall, Dusty, Macrae, cockatoo, Rowe, Hutchings, Eyre.

Thinking about:
M.crouch, Hately, Green, Caldwell

Figured Ryan is a POD as every man and his dog will go Williams.
 
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To be honest it's mostly gut feel on potential role and I'd rather take a punt on someone with breakout potential over someone who has been tracking at high 90s the past few seasons.

Hately also had to contend with breaking into GWS so he hasn't had the inside midfield role he'll most likely have at the Crows.
Only 31 mid eligible players averaged 100 last year - less than two per side.

I know we always take about more mid time as a big tailwind, and it is, but averaging 100 is actually pretty hard to do even with decent opportunity.
I don’t doubt he’ll improve and get a decent amount of mid time, probably as their 4th or 5th choice inside mid behind Crouch, Laird, Sloane and potentially Keays. Like Darkie said it’s just that the vast majority of inside mids don’t score 100.

There are many good inside mids averaging under 90 at the moment. Dom Sheed is about 4th or 5th in the Eagles pecking order and is a decent player and he averaged 89, Brad Crouch who just left Adelaide averaged 83, Parish 86, Worpel 88, Cotchin 82, etc

I think if he has a good year he’s probably going to be scoring a tick over 80 for the season and I would get behind him if he was at least 50-60K cheaper, but as it is it’s just a lot to put up for someone who is unproven and wasn’t originally drafted with the kind of hype to make me confident he’ll start dominating.

There’s no hype for Caldwell as a pick and he’s left for more mid opportunity as well and was taken two picks higher by the same team

I get being cold on Heppell but the only time he has been an under 100avg player since 2014 has been since he’s had this congenital foot issue show up late last year and then a bad run this year with injury. If he’s fit he will be playing a lot of midfield because we need him and I think he still is among our 3 best inside mids. If there are injury issues that are ongoing I would be turned off him as an option
 
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