Discussion 2021: Strategy, Team & Player Discussions
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As I'm having another mare of a round in BBL, rather than watching, I thought I'd try putting a side together full of players with only a few seasons of experience as per this post of mine. I decided any player who had played games in no more than 4 previous seasons would be eligible. This means Naismith is eligible for example, who first played one game in 2014, then played matches in 2016, 2017 and 2020. Most on the list debuted 2017 or later though.
I have kept the same rookies/structure as my previously revealed team for simplicity - you can easily bring another gun player in by changing this around, or add in mid priced players. The "guns" chosen are the highest priced players who are eligible - all bar two of those in the forward line averaged 90+ last season, and these two still averaged 85+ (only 10 forwards total averaged 90+ - these two were #11 and #12).
DEF: Luke Ryan, Jordan Ridley, Tom Stewart, Dan Houston, Denver Grainger-Barras, Lachlan Jones. [Jacob Wehr, Thomas Highmore]
MID: Hugh Greenwood, Hugh McCluggage, Andrew Brayshaw, Sam Walsh, Jarrod Berry, Will Phillips, Luke Pedlar, Tom Powell. [Reef McInnes, Connor Downie, Alex Davies]
RUC: Reilly O'Brien, Tim English. [Josh Treacy (F)]
FOR: Rowan Marshall (R), Zak Butters, Shai Bolton (M), Braeden Campbell (M), Finlay Macrae (M), James Rowe. [Brayden Cook (M), Caleb Poulter (M)]
$333,700 remaining.
If you are interested, the following players would also be eligible (I may have missed one or two). I have only included players who averaged 80+ in 2020:
DEF: Jordan Dawson, Tom Doedee, Alex Witherden, Jack Bowes, Hunter Clark, Brennan Cox, Jack Lukosius, Damon Greaves.
MID: Tim Kelly, Andrew McGrath, Harry Perryman, Jy Simpkin, Matt Rowell, Bailey Smith, Adam Cerra, Will Setterfield, James Worpel, Brandan Parfitt, Tim Taranto, Jack Graham, Josh Daicos, Caleb Serong, Luke Davies-Uniacke, Patrick Lipinski, James Cousins, Mitchell Hinge.
RUC: Peter Ladhams (F), Oscar McInerney, Darcy Fort, Sam Naismith
FOR: Peter Ladhams (R).
Matthew Kennedy (M/F) appears in the picker and averaged 81.4 in 2020, but I think he may have been delisted? He would be eligible too.
I have kept the same rookies/structure as my previously revealed team for simplicity - you can easily bring another gun player in by changing this around, or add in mid priced players. The "guns" chosen are the highest priced players who are eligible - all bar two of those in the forward line averaged 90+ last season, and these two still averaged 85+ (only 10 forwards total averaged 90+ - these two were #11 and #12).
DEF: Luke Ryan, Jordan Ridley, Tom Stewart, Dan Houston, Denver Grainger-Barras, Lachlan Jones. [Jacob Wehr, Thomas Highmore]
MID: Hugh Greenwood, Hugh McCluggage, Andrew Brayshaw, Sam Walsh, Jarrod Berry, Will Phillips, Luke Pedlar, Tom Powell. [Reef McInnes, Connor Downie, Alex Davies]
RUC: Reilly O'Brien, Tim English. [Josh Treacy (F)]
FOR: Rowan Marshall (R), Zak Butters, Shai Bolton (M), Braeden Campbell (M), Finlay Macrae (M), James Rowe. [Brayden Cook (M), Caleb Poulter (M)]
$333,700 remaining.
If you are interested, the following players would also be eligible (I may have missed one or two). I have only included players who averaged 80+ in 2020:
DEF: Jordan Dawson, Tom Doedee, Alex Witherden, Jack Bowes, Hunter Clark, Brennan Cox, Jack Lukosius, Damon Greaves.
MID: Tim Kelly, Andrew McGrath, Harry Perryman, Jy Simpkin, Matt Rowell, Bailey Smith, Adam Cerra, Will Setterfield, James Worpel, Brandan Parfitt, Tim Taranto, Jack Graham, Josh Daicos, Caleb Serong, Luke Davies-Uniacke, Patrick Lipinski, James Cousins, Mitchell Hinge.
RUC: Peter Ladhams (F), Oscar McInerney, Darcy Fort, Sam Naismith
FOR: Peter Ladhams (R).
Matthew Kennedy (M/F) appears in the picker and averaged 81.4 in 2020, but I think he may have been delisted? He would be eligible too.
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A Treloar joined Collingwood in 2016.
2016- Plays 22 games
2017- Plays 21 games. T Adams scores 113 in the 1 game Treloar misses.
2018- Plays 13 games. T Adams averages 107.89 from 9 without Treloar and 86 from 10 with him.
2019- Plays 22 games.
2020- Plays 8 games. T Adams averages 116 from 9 without Treloar. Averages 102.38 from 8 games with Treloar.
T Adams without A Treloar since 2016= 112 from 19 (3/19 below 100, 5/19 120+)
2017= 113
2018= 114+81+107+125+109+107+103+126+99
2020= 112+131+106+122+128+115+119+117+94
2016- Plays 22 games
2017- Plays 21 games. T Adams scores 113 in the 1 game Treloar misses.
2018- Plays 13 games. T Adams averages 107.89 from 9 without Treloar and 86 from 10 with him.
2019- Plays 22 games.
2020- Plays 8 games. T Adams averages 116 from 9 without Treloar. Averages 102.38 from 8 games with Treloar.
T Adams without A Treloar since 2016= 112 from 19 (3/19 below 100, 5/19 120+)
2017= 113
2018= 114+81+107+125+109+107+103+126+99
2020= 112+131+106+122+128+115+119+117+94
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bored so here is my latest version. I have a trigger player to free up 100k or so to upgrade to higher priced rookies if needed
Defenders
Luke Ryan $576,500
Lachie Whitfield $561,600
Tom Stewart $538,000
Luke McDonald $512,900
Lachlan Jones $139,800
Dylan Roberton $139,700
Will Gould $123,900
Jacob Wehr $117,300
Midfielders
Lachie Neale $721,800
Clayton Oliver $656,700
Tom Mitchell $610,000
Taylor Adams $588,800
Will Phillips $198,300
Luke Pedlar $162,300
Tom Powell $153,300
Errol Gulden $117,300
Sam Berry $117,300
Connor Downie $117,300
Alex Davies $102,400
Rucks
Brodie Grundy $648,200
Braydon Preuss $303,000
Josh Treacy $102,400
Forwards
Patrick Dangerfield $611,900
Josh Dunkley $560,200
Rowan Marshall $557,200
Isaac Heeney $454,500
Nakia Cockatoo $123,900
Beau McCreery $117,300
James Rowe $117,300
Bailey Laurie $117,300
Defenders
Luke Ryan $576,500
Lachie Whitfield $561,600
Tom Stewart $538,000
Luke McDonald $512,900
Lachlan Jones $139,800
Dylan Roberton $139,700
Will Gould $123,900
Jacob Wehr $117,300
Midfielders
Lachie Neale $721,800
Clayton Oliver $656,700
Tom Mitchell $610,000
Taylor Adams $588,800
Will Phillips $198,300
Luke Pedlar $162,300
Tom Powell $153,300
Errol Gulden $117,300
Sam Berry $117,300
Connor Downie $117,300
Alex Davies $102,400
Rucks
Brodie Grundy $648,200
Braydon Preuss $303,000
Josh Treacy $102,400
Forwards
Patrick Dangerfield $611,900
Josh Dunkley $560,200
Rowan Marshall $557,200
Isaac Heeney $454,500
Nakia Cockatoo $123,900
Beau McCreery $117,300
James Rowe $117,300
Bailey Laurie $117,300
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2018 - regular season only
quick calculations
Taylor Adam with Treloar - 86
Taylor Adams without Treloar - 106
2018 finals Adams played very well with Treloar in the side and Treloar was massively below normal levels. Treloar hadn't played since round 14.
Think there is relevance to this view and had heard it back then too.
edit - just saw Connoiseur has posted a better period of comparison scores.
quick calculations
Taylor Adam with Treloar - 86
Taylor Adams without Treloar - 106
2018 finals Adams played very well with Treloar in the side and Treloar was massively below normal levels. Treloar hadn't played since round 14.
Think there is relevance to this view and had heard it back then too.
edit - just saw Connoiseur has posted a better period of comparison scores.
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J Impey:
Position: Forward
Club: Hawthorn
Price: $212,800
Between 2018 and 2019 at Hawthorn, J Impey averaged 70.82 from 39 matches. Excluding the 19 SC from 21% TOG in RD18 2019 moves the figure to 72.18 from 38 matches.
Since joining Hawthorn, Impey averages 15.77 disposals per game.
SC avg when disposals equal/exceed 16: 81.64 from 22
SC avg when disposals below 16: 52.86 from 22
Position: Forward
Club: Hawthorn
Price: $212,800
Between 2018 and 2019 at Hawthorn, J Impey averaged 70.82 from 39 matches. Excluding the 19 SC from 21% TOG in RD18 2019 moves the figure to 72.18 from 38 matches.
Since joining Hawthorn, Impey averages 15.77 disposals per game.
SC avg when disposals equal/exceed 16: 81.64 from 22
SC avg when disposals below 16: 52.86 from 22
Two observations come to mind. Do you have enough Captain options. Second you have none of the higher priced rookies (even just as holders). Not all of them will show up but a couple will eg the likes of Will Phillips, B Campbell, T Powell and DGB. As you say you may need to drop someone down to get the cash to bring some of these guys in.
