Position SC 2021: Midfielder Discussion
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Chicken meet egg. Seriously though, they were better because of those two and those two scored better because the team was performing better. Sustainable roles, Brouch/Hately cancels out for mine although Brouch was out for a good chunk of that.
I think you've kind of answered your own question. I don't think anyone is writing them off as players, just as starting picks. If you they're going to start slower and drop $$$ then they're perfect upgrade targets.
For mine:
Danger - Preseason injury is countered by him being such an attention whore/drama queen that it quite probably is nothing and he's just fishing. Role is a real big question, Cameron's arrival also a question, does he take forward half targets and hurt the considerable time Danger spends there or does he release him to play more pure midfield and help him? Ultimately there's enough questions there and his history when limited in the preseason is to start slow.
I think at the end of the day he's not likely to improve his average, quite probably going to be a decent amount cheaper and thus makes a lot of sense to upgrade into, especially given his worst case is a big drop if he's genuinely got OP type problems and spends a lot of time as the 3rd target up forward. Basically I don't think you end up paying more for him later.
Mitchell - Injury is a big issue for mine, tackling and contested ball are huge parts of his game, shoulder injuries are notorious problem injuries (think Ablett) and he's not that far off being priced fairly to his non-Brownlow level season. While I think there is a case he can improve and bounce back to those heights an injury interrupted preseason is not the best basis for that.
I again come to the end thinking he's pretty fairly priced with questions of early form and durability that make it worth at least seeing how he looks. Same as Danger I think you're unlikely to pay significantly more for him, even if he starts strong he wont move a lot, such is the nature of early price rises going mostly to rookies.
I think you've kind of answered your own question. I don't think anyone is writing them off as players, just as starting picks. If you they're going to start slower and drop $$$ then they're perfect upgrade targets.
For mine:
Danger - Preseason injury is countered by him being such an attention whore/drama queen that it quite probably is nothing and he's just fishing. Role is a real big question, Cameron's arrival also a question, does he take forward half targets and hurt the considerable time Danger spends there or does he release him to play more pure midfield and help him? Ultimately there's enough questions there and his history when limited in the preseason is to start slow.
I think at the end of the day he's not likely to improve his average, quite probably going to be a decent amount cheaper and thus makes a lot of sense to upgrade into, especially given his worst case is a big drop if he's genuinely got OP type problems and spends a lot of time as the 3rd target up forward. Basically I don't think you end up paying more for him later.
Mitchell - Injury is a big issue for mine, tackling and contested ball are huge parts of his game, shoulder injuries are notorious problem injuries (think Ablett) and he's not that far off being priced fairly to his non-Brownlow level season. While I think there is a case he can improve and bounce back to those heights an injury interrupted preseason is not the best basis for that.
I again come to the end thinking he's pretty fairly priced with questions of early form and durability that make it worth at least seeing how he looks. Same as Danger I think you're unlikely to pay significantly more for him, even if he starts strong he wont move a lot, such is the nature of early price rises going mostly to rookies.
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I agree on Titch. Oliver had a shoulder reco in the 2018/2019 o***eason and then dropped 5ppg on his season average, with 3 sub 100s in the first 4 rounds.
As for Danger, he’s a wait for mine. He’s in the lucky position that even though he’s ageing, the whole Cats midfield is old and they’ve traded most of their younger players. Duncan 29, Danger 30, Selwood 32, Higgins 32, Menegola 28, so he won’t be pushed out due to age. Certainly not a lock, but in the consideration basket.
As for Danger, he’s a wait for mine. He’s in the lucky position that even though he’s ageing, the whole Cats midfield is old and they’ve traded most of their younger players. Duncan 29, Danger 30, Selwood 32, Higgins 32, Menegola 28, so he won’t be pushed out due to age. Certainly not a lock, but in the consideration basket.
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The only question is backing up from the shoulder and will get tagged as he did in the Geelong game. expect massive volatility in his scoring due to that, like Bont (who was tagged 5 out of first 6-7 games last year). everyone will have him I expect, like Cripps due to FOMO
Could be good, does his TOG drop due to keeping him fresh and number of midfielders that can rotate through? Better for his hamstrings to not over do I would expect and manage his load.
Could be good, does his TOG drop due to keeping him fresh and number of midfielders that can rotate through? Better for his hamstrings to not over do I would expect and manage his load.
Article about Rowell on the AFL website:
https://www.afl.com.au/news/547638/-humble-gun-to-take-big-step-on-road-to-round-one
This mentioned a few changes around the mid structure:
Dew said Rowell's return to the midfield would strengthen an area of the ground Gold Coast has developed depth in during the past 12 months.
He said Noah Anderson would spend more time "inside" in 2021, while Izak Rankine would also push higher up the ground to be on-ball more regularly in the coming year.
Not sure who the losers would be from this. Most likely Weller and Swallow?
https://www.afl.com.au/news/547638/-humble-gun-to-take-big-step-on-road-to-round-one
This mentioned a few changes around the mid structure:
Dew said Rowell's return to the midfield would strengthen an area of the ground Gold Coast has developed depth in during the past 12 months.
He said Noah Anderson would spend more time "inside" in 2021, while Izak Rankine would also push higher up the ground to be on-ball more regularly in the coming year.
Not sure who the losers would be from this. Most likely Weller and Swallow?
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It’s tempting but I’d rather find the money and start a Heeney or Williams type at that price on their lines instead. Heeney and Williams will be closer to top 6/8 forwards and defenders over serong who won’t get near the top 6/8 as a mid at that price
that’s how I view it anyway.
I’m very skeptical of guys in that 400-500 range that aren’t gonna be near the absolute premiums in their positions.
that’s how I view it anyway.
I’m very skeptical of guys in that 400-500 range that aren’t gonna be near the absolute premiums in their positions.
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