Position SC 2021: Midfielder Discussion

[Bomber18]

Players I can see benefitting are J.Kelly,T.Kelly, Duncan, Rockliff, Boak, Macrae, Neale, and Merrett.

Telly an interesting one on that list.

 

[freowho]

I think it's interesting to listen to the AFL coaches. The ones I've heard seem to think it will open the game up more. Has anyone heard a naysayer?

 

[Connoisseur]

I think it's interesting to listen to the AFL coaches. The ones I've heard seem to think it will open the game up more. Has anyone heard a naysayer?

Horse?

 

[Bomber18]

I think it's interesting to listen to the AFL coaches. The ones I've heard seem to think it will open the game up more. Has anyone heard a naysayer?

Yeah agreed. Just trying to track down some articles on it. Here was one of the earliest ones.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...-tweak-changing-the-game-20210129-p56xv0.html

“It really opens up that diagonal kick into the corridor and stops you being pushed down the line as easily,” one coach said.

“It is pretty significant,” one coach said. “It’s much harder to defend so you can be a lot more attacking with ball in hand.

“It’s a bigger change than the cut in rotations or the kick-in one [pulling the man on the mark back at kick-ins a further 10 metres].

According to clubs who have been training with umpires in match simulation, the change to the “man on the mark” rule is having the most profound effect on ball movement and congestion of all the rule changes.

 

[Ironhawk]

Horse?

It does make sense for Horse to be a neighsayer...

 

[Bomber18]

It does make sense for Horse to be a neighsayer...

 

[Wheedus]

It does make sense for Horse to be a neighsayer...

Yellow card

 

[Beg2Differ]

Yellow card

I wouldn’t say yellow...more like GOLD!!!

 

[wogitalia]

Building on some of the below discussion re impact of the man on the mark rule changes observed in the preseason (ie less stoppages, more uncontested marks), does anyone think it could really dent the reign of inside mids in SC...? I’m talking the mids who generally have had very favourable DT / SC ratios due to being able to benefit from a lot of CPs and other SC gold from stoppages...?

I’m personally leaning towards taking Jelly over Oliver, Fyfe types on such basis. Macrae and Neale I think probably not as affected but may have other reasons to avoid them.

Thoughts?

https://supercoachscores.com/threads/sc-2021-ruck-discussion.4532/page-35#post-700117

https://supercoachscores.com/threads/questions-for-rowsus.1063/page-510#post-698628

https://supercoachscores.com/threads/2021-strategy-team-player-discussions.4468/page-123#post-700016

Yes. My latest draft is legitimately designed around this. If no other positive comes from it, at least it pushed me away from Wines (although he looked a lot better on the outside after a preseason for the first time in a few years!).

Pendles is another who is a sneaky good option with the rule changes I think that I haven't seen mentioned much.

Only way that picking those types really hurts is if all the preseason data and the talk is completely wrong and it actually ends up more contested. This seems unlikely so really the worst case is things stay the same and you've got premiums with the upside being that it does become significantly more open and you've got a lot of strong picks with upside, something that has definitely been lacking for a lot of the midfield guys this preseason.

 

[BarginHunter]

Are people off Oliver? havent heard anything about him in a while?

 

[donnybuang]

Are people off Oliver? havent heard anything about him in a while?

Can't be a good sign, missing the final praccy match.

 

[Ben's Beasts]

Are people off Oliver? havent heard anything about him in a while?

Currently 26% of SCS members who have voted in the poll have him so still quite popular.

Trained fully on Friday and was reportedly one of the best on the track.

 

[stephen]

Are people off Oliver? havent heard anything about him in a while?

Nothing serious but I think Macrae reminding people about his abilities at the same time Oliver missed meant a few of us changed trams. Both good picks imo but hard to fit them both in if you want the premo rucks as well.

 

[NT.Thunder]

I agree, I think there are so many good options around that $600k and up, spin me three times and throw 3 darts and that's my midfield premiums locked.

 

[BarginHunter]

Nothing serious but I think Macrae reminding people about his abilities at the same time Oliver missed meant a few of us changed trams. Both good picks imo but hard to fit them both in if you want the premo rucks as well.

i may have found a way to do so, with gawndy

BUT not sure how strong my team is now, ill post it in the Rate My Team thread to give you an idea

 

[NT.Thunder]

Any news on Cripps?

 

[armesy]

I think I agree with this. There’s actually been an increase in CBs so the CB mids who can capitalize on the outside too will benefit.

Really good point. If we are expecting more goals this season then surely the extra CB's account for less stoppages around the ground. CB's are even better for the big clearance guys as its only 4 v 4 in there.

 

[Dimmawit]

Have had Fyfe in all my recent drafts and was pretty confident I'd start him. My concerns about Freos mounting injuries were sufficiently quelled by JL and fyfes statements saying his role wouldn't be impacted but now seeing Treacy get suspended....has me concerned.

At some point Fyfe has to be sent fwd for longer than whatever was planned. He could be a late scratching for me now

Anyone of a similar view?

 

[Ben's Beasts]

Have had Fyfe in all my recent drafts and was pretty confident I'd start him. My concerns about Freos mounting injuries were sufficiently quelled by JL and fyfes statements saying his role wouldn't be impacted but now seeing Treacy get suspended....has me concerned.

At some point Fyfe has to be sent fwd for longer than whatever was planned. He could be a late scratching for me now

Anyone of a similar view?

Yes.

It's basically just Taberner as the exclusive forward target now. Meek might spend some time down there when he isn't rucking but I expect that will be minimal. So surely Fyfe plays more forward than was originally planned until they have that second tall playing.

 

[wogitalia]

Have had Fyfe in all my recent drafts and was pretty confident I'd start him. My concerns about Freos mounting injuries were sufficiently quelled by JL and fyfes statements saying his role wouldn't be impacted but now seeing Treacy get suspended....has me concerned.

At some point Fyfe has to be sent fwd for longer than whatever was planned. He could be a late scratching for me now

Anyone of a similar view?

I didn't expect Treacy to play round one anyway, the fact he's playing reserves a week out is not a strong case for being in the team.

Fully expecting Darcy to come back at FF and be eased in. Best case for picking Meek and Meek will have every chance to usurp the #1 ruck position. Best case is basically that Darcy plays well as a forward and they stick with it. Will probably be a 60/40 ruck split which still makes Hunter a better pure play for a 6 week punt but also with a far greater chance of busting out in 3.

Flynn still clearly ahead of either for mine.

Still expecting Fyfe has a 70/30 split. Also wouldn't he shocked if a Logue or Pearce did go forward but mostly expecting Darcy.

Also worth noting that Fyfe's starting price is based on several games of almost full forward time (was genuinely surprised he didn't get DPP this year) so it's not like he can't score there and it's not like Lobb or Craberner were taking the best defender over Fyfe whenever he's forward anyway!