Strategy 2023: Round 2 Trades

[Ginty22]

Interested in people who saw the StK game's thoughts on H Clark. I tried to limit my midpriced exposure across lines, so ended up with Clark over the midfield options that I'd preferred (probably would have gone Setterfield except for my paranoia about including Essendon players).

He was names starting on all. What did his role actually look like? Is there any hope that he becomes a quality mid, or should I just cull him straight away?

Have Stewart to fix. But going to hold the rookies because a 20-100 is better than a 100-20 for cash gen.

(Also have Fyfe, but he's likely a placeholder for a missed rookie next week)

So Stewart -> someone, and then either use the second trade on Clark (can swing Ginbey to defence) or hold?

As a current owner I was watching him closely, when on the field he lined up exclusively centre bounce or wing. Issue is he only played 58% game time and went at 33% disposal efficiency, both of these seriously limited his scoring.
He has the right role, but for whatever reason his tog was very low, which was surprising because he had 78% tog in the practice match
I'm torn between giving him another week and hoping his tog improves or moving him up to Young now

 

[BomberSam]

Hey community, thinking I'll sit on my hands this week but just throwing it out there to see if I'm missing anything? It's weird to not have any obvious moves amidst the carnage.

Likely next week will be something boring like 2 of Hopper/Jones/Chesser to Callaghan and Phillips. Just taking an extra weeks info. Could be tempted by a JHF/Ziebell (not afraid to boost). No way to Daicos unless Laird looks bad again.

 

[mike89]

Agree, Laird definitely a hold.

Thinking hard about Bruhn though. Think he might have been stitched up slightly with the injuries forcing others (Touhy?) back and pushing him out to the wing, but that equally suggests his role is pretty precarious anyway. Inclined to give him one more go before he gets flung to the likes of JHF. What keeps my finger over the trigger is he's playing a high scoring midfield in Carlton and he plays first...

 

[jel]

Tbf Kelly played 21 games last season

In fact he's only missed 2 games in the last 2 seasons.
He still has the 'injury prone' stigma from 2018 - 2020.

 

[Peter56]

I was looking at using 3 trades. Then thought this is the equivalent of starting these players and I am 3 trades behind the majority of people. As was pointed out the trouble is that we only had the one game of data, so we discarded the Daicos, JHF or Sheezel picks.

 

[dlanod]

I was looking at using 3 trades. Then thought this is the equivalent of starting these players and I am 3 trades behind the majority of people. As was pointed out the trouble is that we only had the one game of data, so we discarded the Daicos, JHF or Sheezel picks.

I think all three of those warrant different responses to only a single game of data because of the different concern for each.

The main concern over Sheezel was role. I think we can put that to bed after one game, so I'd be comfortable bringing him in if I didn't already have it.

The concern over Daicos is the tag. This is still up in the air, and will change from a week to week basis so I don't think anything has actually changed or will likely change. For me the big change is that now Stewart is out so that's one less player I prefer.

Not sure what the concern over JHF was as I literally never considered him, but after examining him this week my main issue is his price for a second year who don't usually explode - so scoring I guess. Scoring after one week is near random and is exactly why we usually wait until after week 2 for correction trades.

 

[Vicwood]

A few balls in the air atm, with some poor Rd1 performances.

Laird - hold for a week. Down grade would release a ton of cash but no one $560k+ really put their hand up.
Fyfe - hold for a week with a trade to JHF on the cards if JHF has another good game.

Would need to do the Laird trade to get enough cash to fix both these rookies if they don't improve.
F.Greene - likely hold for a week?
Chesser - likely hold for a week?

LDU says hello

 

[Blue Bloods]

Interested in people who saw the StK game's thoughts on H Clark. I tried to limit my midpriced exposure across lines, so ended up with Clark over the midfield options that I'd preferred (probably would have gone Setterfield except for my paranoia about including Essendon players).

He was names starting on all. What did his role actually look like? Is there any hope that he becomes a quality mid, or should I just cull him straight away?

Have Stewart to fix. But going to hold the rookies because a 20-100 is better than a 100-20 for cash gen.

(Also have Fyfe, but he's likely a placeholder for a missed rookie next week)

So Stewart -> someone, and then either use the second trade on Clark (can swing Ginbey to defence) or hold?

Didn’t see the game but have Clark in RealDT and thinking to hold. He came in when Yeo was ruled out. So if you hold can wait and see how Yeo or Bowes go and make a call then, hopefully making some cash on the way.

Corrections trade before round 3 are all about the big price increase/decreases, the Clark/Hopper/Bruhun/Fyfes of the world can wait, of course they can be traded to catch the other big increases. Hope that made sense

 

[Blue Bloods]

There's some real 50/50 decisions this week that could burn either way.

1. Trading Fyfe
2. Trading Jones
3. Trading In - JHF, Daicos, Sheezel

Both Fyfe and Jones could turn it round against North and Saints - wouldn't be the first time trades have turned out a -ve net loss

Yep lots of 50/50 calls and really need to see another week, which I’m fine with but could need 4 trades next week.

Pity we couldn’t have 36 trades but use them whenever we want.

 

[Slacker]

imho, English looked real good, Marshall looked pretty average. Marshall > English, open up an early POD and extra points over the season.
English has a good midfield and running team around him and both Gawn and English have separate bye rounds.
Thinking will stick to rucks for C/VC looping and Gawn and English will easily facilitate this from now on.
Supercaoch 101, never trade in rookies after 1 round, especially round 1, keep 3 rookie corrections for the round 2 rookie bolters.

 

[NT.Thunder]

imho, English looked real good, Marshall looked pretty average. Marshall > English, open up an early POD and extra points over the season.
English has a good midfield and running team around him and both Gawn and English have separate bye rounds.
Thinking will stick to rucks for C/VC looping and Gawn and English will easily facilitate this from now on.
Supercaoch 101, never trade in rookies after 1 round, especially round 1, keep 3 rookie corrections for the round 2 rookie bolters.

English scoring ability has never been questioned for me, always been his durability. If you didn't consider English as an option preseason due durability, that hasn't changed after one game.

 

[doc ron]

Just the one trade for me Jones -> McKenna. Could go Grundy to Gawn as well, but will give it another week.

 

[donnybuang]

Jelly to Cogs I think. Even if Jelly is gone for just a week, he's a disaster waiting to happen again and should have learned from the past. Much harder to cover for missing premiums this early in the season when the bench is full of rookies who aren't fieldable. Not sure on the other trades yet, Bruhn, Flanders and Hopper are problems.

I'm pretty much the same with Jelly. Look, he was playing well, but wasn't on track for a massive score either. I was hoping for a lucky season of 22 @115, but that ain't happening.

 

[BIGB0Y]

Agree, Laird definitely a hold.

Thinking hard about Bruhn though. Think he might have been stitched up slightly with the injuries forcing others (Touhy?) back and pushing him out to the wing, but that equally suggests his role is pretty precarious anyway. Inclined to give him one more go before he gets flung to the likes of JHF. What keeps my finger over the trigger is he's playing a high scoring midfield in Carlton and he plays first...

I saw enough, played a ok quater but then just looked flat. Geelong didn’t have much faith in him after that as he looked super glued to the bench and a nothing role on a wing.

 

[aj74]

Just finished watching the Port replay. JHF impressive, turned the game for PA in the 3rd Quarter. Great Role and could be A FWD keeper. Definately a consideration this week.

Reckon you're missing Butters's role in that comeback.

Having said that, JHF did more than enough to earn a trade into my team

 

[Zim^zuM]

LDU says hello

Potentially Laird waves a big hello to LDU this week. Don't get me wrong, I think LDU will be a good pick. But he won't play against West Coast every week, and laird won't play in 36--40 degree heat every week either.

 

[Slacker]

English scoring ability has never been questioned for me, always been his durability. If you didn't consider English as an option preseason due durability, that hasn't changed after one game.

True, but a bit like Hopper, Marshall's ownership numbers were /are scary high almost forcing his selection despite any other logic and yes I capitulated. After seeing him and Marshall play their first real game for the season, well to my eye , English should be a significantly better choice and dovetails nicely with Gawn going forward. There's no point delaying that even though, you're right, more fool me for being a sheep to start off with.

 

[Santoz]

Non Laird owners, should we be freeing up cash to go early on Laird seeing as, in recent history, he just doesn't have outlier games like this at all?

Over the first few price cycles, we're likely not going to get a better opportunity to grab him as cheap as we are going to get this season.

Thinking Bruhn to Phillips via DPP frees up 150k for the Laird slush fund.

 

[Shannon]

@Russty_ & anyone who saw the Saints v Freo game, how did Liam Stocker look/play?

Just seeing if he is a viable option if Liam Jones is out especially with Webster now injured also so I assume his spot in the backline would be reasonably secure for now?

 

[NT.Thunder]

True, but a bit like Hopper, Marshall's ownership numbers were /are scary high almost forcing his selection despite any other logic and yes I capitulated. After seeing him and Marshall play their first real game for the season, well to my eye , English should be a significantly better choice and dovetails nicely with Gawn going forward. There's no point delaying that even though, you're right, more fool me for being a sheep to start off with.

Not really, I think English will be a much higher scorer but I also think English will miss random games so if people are of the opinion of not taking him due risk of missing games, that thought process hasn’t changed.