Strategy 2023: Round 3 Trades

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I agree re Marshall and English.


I would likely hold fire on McVee to Bowes, given Bowes isn’t on the bubble. McVee could make a bit of cash this week and could even turn things around and be worth holding longer term (unlikely but possible).

The main benefit as I see it is another round of info on Bowes’ role, fitness and scoring. Something like Hopper to JHF looked like a pretty good trade a week ago and I suspect almost noone would be doubt it this week (unless Hopper misses through injury). The info is quite valuable, especially at this stage of the season. I think it’s worth forgoing a few points on ground this round for that info. If it was 30+ points and you wanted to be aggressive/you were confident on Bowes, that seems okay to me.
The other option I'm now considering is Chesser and Dale to LDU and McKenna. A lot to think about - and I definitely agree with you re: Bowes. Hopper missing is a bit of a spanner in the works but think I'll hold him.
 
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Getting fomo with Daicos the unfortunate part is my team doesn't really have any glaring issues (tell that to my rank) to make the acquisition an easy one.

Docherty is probably the player I'd have to move to get him. I have full confidence in Docherty as a pick although even with a couple of 100 scores over the next two weeks he'll drop about 50k vs Dacios who will rise close to 70k with a 105 avg in the next two games. 120k swing in 2 weeks justify a trade? I'm not entirely sure but Dacios is about to become a hell of a lot more popular and not having him will hurt.

Darcy is the other I want to move to English like I originally had. Sampson would mean Chesser up however I don't think I'm that insane.

Will probably use a second boost if I do bite the bullet on Doch > Daicos to turn Greene into Chandler.
 
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You can get LDU and Daicos without trading Doc though.

Try:
Gawn > Cameron
Neale > LDU
Flanders > Daicos via Davey and Chesser

You are losing Neale instead of Doc but you are getting LDU instead of Setterfield and not going into round 4 with 900k in the bank (which is a lot of money to have not doing you any good for a week or however long it takes you to spend it. Especially early in the year)

Having said that.... Your midfield is pretty bloody strong already, with Hollands as your first sub offering you maybe 70. Do you need LDU right now? My focus would be on those forwards. Fyfe, Flanders, Greene and Comben are not looking like doing you any favours. Really, they are looking more like boat anchors at the moment.

Your issue down back is Chesser but he's on the bench so isn't urgent. Your mids are fine. You have a ruck to fix. You are leaking points up forward and have two dodgy bench options likely to make you nothing really slowly. On bench so they aren't critical but there is a rookie on offer in Chandler that should sort you out the cash faster. You've got 166k bank and at a glance, all the good rookies but Chandler.

I'd say your first priority is Gawn, then your 2nd and 3rd priorities are forwards.

So Gawn > Cameron leaves about 320k
Flanders/Fyfe > Ziebell leaves either 280k or 220k
Greene/Comben > Chandler sideways

This way you fix your ruck injury and you halve the Fyfe/Flanders problem. If one of them is missing, you can either trade them for the cash boost this round from the other, or even trade the selected player so you can loop your forward bench because you kinda need to. It' really weak. Either way, Chandler projects as being a tidy F6 for you in the opening rounds. You should have only 220 - 280k doing waiting for the next round where you can look at correcting Fyfe/Flanders into Bowes maybe or I dunno, there's another couple like Croxier who missed round 1 and you get to take a look at. Don't forget Kozzy will be back for round 4 with a round 5 trade in maybe on the cards.

The issue is that you miss the big shiny player this week in LDU, Daicos and Setterfield. But face it, you were missing 1 of them anyway because of Gawn and, because you were swapping Doc for Daics and because your onfield midfield is already full, the benefit from bringing in LDU or Setterfield is marginal. You can't afford LDU without losing another premium and fielding Setterfield over Hollands/Mackenzie should only be in the order of 20 - 40 points for an extra 200k spent. I think that ZB offers significantly better prospect of returns than Flanders/Fyfe fo not much more coin and Greene/Comben > Chandler is a no-brainer.

HTH. Yours is a good puzzle. Gawn getting hurt has made me thankful I did the boost in round 1. I haven't had any injuries to worry about in round 2 (maybe Hopper) but had I have not boosted in round 1 and copped an injury in round 2 it would have stuffed me right up. Not liking being down to 30 trades already though :D
In my opinion Gawn, Fyfe &
Flanders are your 3 main issues.

Would you consider going

Gawn > Cameron
Fyfe > Coniglio
Flanders > Ziebell ?

Could flick Ziebell to defence from round 6 also.
Stick with your Keepers (Docherty) and prioritise what's more urgent to correct for the round.

Here's my take...

Trade 1 (priority): Gawn to DCameron leaving $323,000 ITB

Potential OUTS:
Fyfe $313,600
Flanders $256,300
Comben $123,900 / Chesser $123,900***

Potential INs:
N Daicos $502,500
Setterfield $348,200
Ziebell $356,400
Chandler $123,900***

***If choosing to trade out Comben/Chesser then Chandler has to be strongly considered as one of the INs

On-field position which needs strengthening: D6 and F5/6

I feel that Setterfield is an unnecessary luxury (feels great to have) doesn't address the current need of your team. Like you've alluded to, it would be great to be able to do an 'extra' correction trade for the round. We're all in that same predicament and have to make do within the confines of the allocated 3 trades allowable for the round.

Trade 2
N Daicos is a constant in all your options so that's your 2nd trade sorted. In order to do that, you'll have to use either Fyfe/Flanders.

Trade 3
You have a choice to make here.
Either boost to swap to a better immediate cash cow (Chesser/Comben to Chandler) or to a better MP player (Fyfe/Flanders to Ziebell*). *Setterfield is not available as an option as you won't have the required F/M player in the Mids to execute this
Appreciate the feedback everyone. I guess it just wasn't as aggressive as I'd initially thought and was in fact counter intuitive. Based on what you've all said it's clear I'd be setting myself up to remain >75,000 ranked with a bleeding FWD line and needing to burn another 3 early trades. Zero cash gen upside with dead weight picks like Fyfe, Madden, Chesser, and even Comben. Plus the added risk of a Hopper flavoured donut amongst all of that.

Gawn > Cameron
Fyfe > Ziebell
Flanders > Naicos via Chesser

I'm left with $34k and I'd like to have gone into Round 4 with that $300k and make 2 more corrections, possibly bringing in another premo. But I now understand why majority don't often do that this early lol.

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In: Setterfield, Chandler, Cameron

Out: Jones, Ratugolea, Darcy

Docherty, J.McGovern, Ginbey, McKenna, Wilmot, Constable; Chesser, Cowan

Bontempelli, Macrae, J.Kelly, T.Green, Setterfield, Hopper, Worpel, Ashcroft; Mackenzie, O.Baker, A.Davey

Marshall, D.Cameron; Madden

Dunkley, Coniglio, Rozee, Taranto, Ziebell, Sheezel; Chandler. F.Greene

33 trades left
Have opted with this instead -

In: Setterfield, D.Cameron, N.Daicos

Out: Chesser, S.Darcy, J.Macrae

Docherty, Daicos, J.McGovern, L.Jones, Ginbey, McKenna; Wilmot, Cowan

Bontempelli, J.Kelly, T.Green, Setterfield, Hopper, Worpel, Ashcroft, Mackenzie; Constable, O.Baker, A.Davey

Marshall, D.Cameron; Madden

Dunkley, Coniglio, Rozee, Taranto, Ziebell, Sheezel; Ratugolea, F.Greene

Thoughts as to whether this is a better choice?
 
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Have opted with this instead -

In: Setterfield, D.Cameron, N.Daicos

Out: Chesser, S.Darcy, J.Macrae

Docherty, Daicos, J.McGovern, L.Jones, Ginbey, McKenna; Wilmot, Cowan

Bontempelli, J.Kelly, T.Green, Setterfield, Hopper, Worpel, Ashcroft, Mackenzie; Constable, O.Baker, A.Davey

Marshall, D.Cameron; Madden

Dunkley, Coniglio, Rozee, Taranto, Ziebell, Sheezel; Ratugolea, F.Greene

Thoughts as to whether this is a better choice?
Personally doing something similar except with LDU instead of Daicos.

LDU looks to be a potential #1 ranked SC player. Wont touch anywhere near 550k the rest of the year while Daicos's ceiling is capped.
He will be a top 6 defender but you could easily get him in later, the same cant be said for LDU who could hover at 650k for the rest of the year.

LDU also has POD value. 45% vs 6% ownership and less than $60k difference in price.
 
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Personally doing something similar except with LDU instead of Daicos.

LDU looks to be a potential #1 ranked SC player. Wont touch anywhere near 550k the rest of the year while Daicos's ceiling is capped.
He will be a top 6 defender but you could easily get him in later, the same cant be said for LDU who could hover at 650k for the rest of the year.

LDU also has POD value. 45% vs 6% ownership and less than $60k difference in price.
Can't fit him in if I stick to D.Cameron & Setterfield. only have $9,900 left in the bank
 
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I'm finding this difficult, despite having no injuries other than Hopper.
Possible trade outs: Cumming, Chesser, Neale, Darcy, Bruhn (definitely going).
Possible trade ins: Naicos, Setters, LDU, Ruck?, Ziebell.
Limited funds: $1,700. 36 trades.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Other than Pou, i have desired rookies ( i think)

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Cumming > Naicos
Darcy > Cameron
Bruhn > Ziebell

You could choose to stick with Darcy, but only dumping Bruhn will leave you 40k shy of grabbing Ziebell, something to think about.
 
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Am I alone in potentially holding Darcy?? If he's not injured it's just one bad week.









I've gone Rat to Chandler, Callaghan to Sheezel
Holding Darcy for now, if he can;t front up against WCE then he'll have to go.

Going against the trend by holding Doch too, no Daicos, no Ziebell, no LDU and no Chandler, they would have to be 4 of the most popular trade ins this week I guess.
I have Redman where Daicos would be.
JHF instead of Ziebell
Green in place of LDU
Greene instead of Chandler

Holding Hopper with Hollands to cover

Trades are:

Cumming > Bowes
Chesser > Cole
Uwland > Setterfield

Needed to maintain some depth in the backline with Cumming going out to finance Setters so it was a choice of Crozier or Bowes.

Have improved my bench players which are quite solid now, reduced my onfield rookies to 4 (Ginbey, Ashcroft, Mackenzie and Cheezel) who are looking like solid scorers, Bowes and Setters should be good stepping stones.
The 3 ins are all onfield and hopefully add a bit more scoring power.
 
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Roughly in order I'd prefer ND, Green, DC, Mitchell. If you need the forward to get a rubbish scorer off, then DC would be bumped up a bit.
Have Chandler D6, which is fine for now. DC would sit D4 and be handy ruck cover. Dunks to the mids.
 
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