Strategy 2024: Round 5 Trades

[misterspock]

Talk me out of trading in Jeremy Sharp @ $255k...BE of -51...if he averages 70 over the next 3 games price will rise by $100k and potential stepping stone to a premo by Round 7 or 8.

People are comfortable trading in Comben @ $227k and a BE of -40, however is a key position player with perhaps greater risk than Sharp of generating low scores and slower cash generation...i.e. if he averages say 55 over the next 4-5 games his price only goes up $75k. Advantage of Comben is the upcomign DPP I suppose.

Thoughts?

 

[Zimmer]

I’ve got Jordan, Grundy, Daicos, Massimo, Z Reid and many of the various players that have been mentioned as trade out options and the only one I’m sure if trading is Jordan. I was clear on bringing in Steele as well but questioning that now too.

 

[Spifflicator]

Talk me out of trading in Jeremy Sharp @ $255k...BE of -51...if he averages 70 over the next 3 games price will rise by $100k and potential stepping stone to a premo by Round 7 or 8.

People are comfortable trading in Comben @ $227k and a BE of -40, however is a key position player with perhaps greater risk than Sharp of generating low scores and slower cash generation...i.e. if he averages say 55 over the next 4-5 games his price only goes up $75k. Advantage of Comben is the upcomign DPP I suppose.

Thoughts?

I think you have a legit concern with Comben, but remember Sharp is playing wing (like Billings) and has put in a massive score from outta nowhere (like Billings) and could also just as easily have a game where he just doesn't get near it and throws in a putrid low score (like Billings). These are the risks of SC but hightened by taking an expensive rookie. I am much more interested Lohmann who is approx. $160k and has only risen $10k due to being starting sub. I think his performance on the weekend has proven he deserves to start and we should see some solid game time from him.

This time of year downgrading to cheaper rookies is much kinder to cash gen than the lure of the expensive ones.

 

[Deeman1]

Talk me out of trading in Jeremy Sharp @ $255k...BE of -51...if he averages 70 over the next 3 games price will rise by $100k and potential stepping stone to a premo by Round 7 or 8.

People are comfortable trading in Comben @ $227k and a BE of -40, however is a key position player with perhaps greater risk than Sharp of generating low scores and slower cash generation...i.e. if he averages say 55 over the next 4-5 games his price only goes up $75k. Advantage of Comben is the upcomign DPP I suppose.

Thoughts?

I'm not going to talk you out of anything, after I brought in Dempsey at 219k last week who had a break even of around -20 if I recall correctly, but the only one thing I will say is that its not very efficient use of cash, then again if you have a stalled rookie in the $200k-$220k range and can get there in one trade, then it might be worth it. I guess the good thing with Sharp is he as a fairly lucrative, role, I think I would wait a week on Comben to see what happens this week, plenty of examples of players that have a massive score in first game (which is only in 1 price rise), then turn out to be a bad pick.

I think getting Sharp is team dependent, but may turn out to be worth it.

 

[Xerri popper]

Hey guys, I appreciate all the help you can provide a second year player.

I have 98,500 in bank and have only used 1 boost

Was thinking Grundy to meek and coffield to graham/clohesy netting me lots of money in the bank

Or do move Jackson up to ruck and grab Flanders with the same graham/clohesy option

Or is there something even better doing with your opinions?

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So have reconsidered and thinking Grundy to Marshall, coffield to clohesy

Thinking this should be a decent upgrade on ruck for the rest of the season while he is coming in at a lower price

 

[quite ironic]

I think you have a legit concern with Comben, but remember Sharp is playing wing (like Billings) and has put in a massive score from outta nowhere (like Billings) and could also just as easily have a game where he just doesn't get near it and throws in a putrid low score (like Billings). These are the risks of SC but hightened by taking an expensive rookie. I am much more interested Lohmann who is approx. $160k and has only risen $10k due to being starting sub. I think his performance on the weekend has proven he deserves to start and we should see some solid game time from him.

This time of year downgrading to cheaper rookies is much kinder to cash gen than the lure of the expensive ones.

To be fair watching both games, Billings looked very unsustainable as he was racking up touches everywhere on the wing and hff. He had so much ball around the 50 metre arc offensively which is generally very unsustainable.

Sharp's was a bit different with 75% of his possessions in defensive 50. He had a lot of touches around defensive 50 and out on the hbf which is at least a lot more chance of being sustainable.

I doubt he goes 120+ again but I think the chance of another 75-85 score is possible in that role, which would see a lot more variance if he relied on most of his touches being in the offensive half of the ground.

 

[NT.Thunder]

Looking over my trades, contemplating bringing Gawn in this week for Grundy. I do worry another big game and he is almost getting out of reach and it is hurting me. BE 75 so will go up, bye the next round but best 18 I feel it doesn't hurt as much. A bit to mull over.

When do DPP players changes come in? Is it next week or the week after?

 

[Russty_]

Looking over my trades, contemplating bringing Gawn in this week for Grundy. I do worry another big game and he is almost getting out of reach and it is hurting me. BE 75 so will go up, bye the next round but best 18 I feel it doesn't hurt as much. A bit to mull over.

When do DPP players changes come in? Is it next week or the week after?

After round 6.
I'm thinking the same thing with Gawn, sick of seeing all those points go begging each week because I picked Grundy who isn't the Ruck he used to be.

 

[Herbie66]

Hey guys, I appreciate all the help you can provide a second year player.

I have 98,500 in bank and have only used 1 boost

Was thinking Grundy to meek and coffield to graham/clohesy netting me lots of money in the bank

Or do move Jackson up to ruck and grab Flanders with the same graham/clohesy option

Or is there something even better doing with your opinions?

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I am definitely no expert , but if it was me I would be going Grundy - > Meek (doing that exact trade myself) and banking some cash for future upgrades.

Pretty solid team given no Sheezel , Heeney & Flanders & running Xerri @ R2.

6 premium midfield ✓

To me it looks like you need to upgrade the following (like many)

D'Ambrosio
Williams
Howes

Roberts
McKercher

Darcy
Reid , H
Mead

Ideally you want these players to get close to $ 350k before upgrading (obviously the higher they get in price the "easier" it will be to get ultra premiums)

Possibly King & Powell.

You then need to look at your bench and see where you are going to generate your cash.

If you use a rough of figure of a bench players getting to $ 275k , then downgrading them to a new $ 125k you get that magic $ 150k profit that has been talked about for years.

Looking at your current bench :-

Hore - dead
Coffield - dead

Sanders - ✓ Lots of 💰 to make
Carroll - if he holds his spot , should still make money
Wilson - will be a slow burn

Naismith - dead

Berry - looking at Footywire could soon start losing money
Duursma - as above

Clohesy , Graham , Ramsden look good after after their first game , when do others appear (for future downgrades) is anyone's guess though.

No issue in doing Coffield - > Clohesy this round (many are) to give you another look at the other 2 + Comben and if they are viable to trade in for Round 6.

Certainly see the appeal in Marshall but does that cause problems in a few rounds time when you are struggling for cash to start upgrading ?

Footywire have Witts under $ 500k after Round 7 who could be a option.

Darcy Cameron after Round 6 is expected to be about $ 460k , take out the 18 v the Swans and his average is extremely good.

Good luck with it

 

[Herbie66]

Grundy - > Meek
Z Reid - > Clohesy

Builds some Bank

Have another look at Comben , Graham & Ramsden

Tuesday's tinkering has me looking at :-

Howes (BE 56) - > Clohesy
Grundy - > Meek
Sexton (dead) - > Jezza

Had Jezza in my initial starting team

$ 27,000.00 in the Bank

No rookies onfield in the F line 😲

Heeney , Jackson , Flanders , King , Powell , Jezza / Cadman , Campbell

Bench looks a little stronger for cash generation

Brown/Clohesy
Reid , Z - see if he returns

Reid , H
Wilson - needs some 70's & 80's
Clark - spike game is coming 😲

Livingstone - dead

Cadman
Campbell

See how Comben , Graham & Ramsden score

Still monitoring May

 

[Xerri popper]

I am definitely no expert , but if it was me I would be going Grundy - > Meek (doing that exact trade myself) and banking some cash for future upgrades.

Pretty solid team given no Sheezel , Heeney & Flanders & running Xerri @ R2.

6 premium midfield ✓

To me it looks like you need to upgrade the following (like many)

D'Ambrosio
Williams
Howes

Roberts
McKercher

Darcy
Reid , H
Mead

Ideally you want these players to get close to $ 350k before upgrading (obviously the higher they get in price the "easier" it will be to get ultra premiums)

Possibly King & Powell.

You then need to look at your bench and see where you are going to generate your cash.

If you use a rough of figure of a bench players getting to $ 275k , then downgrading them to a new $ 125k you get that magic $ 150k profit that has been talked about for years.

Looking at your current bench :-

Hore - dead
Coffield - dead

Sanders - ✓ Lots of 💰 to make
Carroll - if he holds his spot , should still make money
Wilson - will be a slow burn

Naismith - dead

Berry - looking at Footywire could soon start losing money
Duursma - as above

Clohesy , Graham , Ramsden look good after after their first game , when do others appear (for future downgrades) is anyone's guess though.

No issue in doing Coffield - > Clohesy this round (many are) to give you another look at the other 2 + Comben and if they are viable to trade in for Round 6.

Certainly see the appeal in Marshall but does that cause problems in a few rounds time when you are struggling for cash to start upgrading ?

Footywire have Witts under $ 500k after Round 7 who could be a option.

Darcy Cameron after Round 6 is expected to be about $ 460k , take out the 18 v the Swans and his average is extremely good.

Good luck with it

Yeah I have been putting meek in/out all week trying to work out best way forward. I am worried about berry and duursma but should I be swapping them out this week and for who?

 

[Herbie66]

Yeah I have been putting meek in/out all week trying to work out best way forward. I am worried about berry and duursma but should I be swapping them out this week and for who?

Berry BE 67
Duursma BE 57

Trade Berry - > Clohesy via Wilson & Daicos.

Round 6

Coffield - > Graham (if viable)
Duursma - > Ramsden (if viable) could be a option.

After Round 6 you should have 5-6 D/M players to swing around

 

[Herbie66]

Graham is already D/M

Clohesy , D'Ambrosio , McKercher , Roberts should all become D/M

 

[Miller is a Steele]

Finding trades difficult this week. What I was hoping to do was:
Jordon > Steele
Billings > Lohmann
Jackson > Premo

Gives me 583k for the premo. Can make it 627k or 642k if I opt for Graham or Clohesy.

The thing is, who’s that premium?

Wouldn’t go for a ruck as I have Gawn and Grundy but even if I did, I wouldn’t pay almost 700k for English and I’m not overly interested in Marshall as I don’t think he’ll keep up with English and Gawn.

I have Heeney and Flanders in the forward line. The cupboard is extremely bare after that. I can’t confidently say they’ll finish top 6-8 for any of the others.

I think the top defenders are still sorting themselves out. I have Ryan, Sheezel and Houston right now and Yeo who I’m expecting to offload at some point. I have doubts on Stewart being top 6-8 which is a bold take. He needed 10 intercept marks for his one big score. Just isn’t getting involved enough in the Cats ball movement. Regardless, I wouldn’t be paying 600k for him. Sicily has obvious role issues right now and not touching him. Sinclair is starting to get going after his calf setback but I’d like to wait a bit before grabbing him. Not going anywhere near McGovern. Liked Whitfield but he had a poor game last week and I’ve cooled on him. Duggan I actually thought would be getting more attention as an option. Hurn gone and he’s thriving. Not for me though. Not liking the Young/Clark/NWM options. Guessing game trying to pinpoint who actually works out.

As for the midfielders everyone is at their peak price. My top 10 would be Bont, Petracca, Serong, Green, Merrett, Butters, Gulden, Steele, Libba, Neale in roughly that order. Already own Green, Serong and Libba. Grabbing Steele this week already. Out of the others Bont, Petracca, Merrett and Butters are too expensive, Neale has injury concerns and I like Gulden but he has a bye! Rozee and Dawson look value but I just don’t think they’ll cut it at the end of the season. Andy Brayshaw is there but I don’t think he’ll ever be a top liner in SC like he is in AF. Liked Miller last week but turned off by his recent performance. Not touching LDU and Oliver is very much a wait and see. Was looking at JHF but he needs DPP and Wines out seems to have cost him that. For Martin’s good scores he played the Saints who leak bulk points to defenders and in a heavy loss to Port where the ball lived in his area.

Really want to offload Jackson but I just can’t see a good option for him. Will probably just do a Howes > Clohesy/Graham trade instead and store the cash for Gulden and/or Daicos next week.

 

[Xerri popper]

Berry BE 67
Duursma BE 57

Trade Berry - > Clohesy via Wilson & Daicos.

Round 6

Coffield - > Graham (if viable)
Duursma - > Ramsden (if viable) could be a option.

After Round 6 you should have 5-6 D/M players to swing around

Oh nice I didn't even think of using daicos to make that move possible thank you so much! Still lots to learn and it's helpful lurking on these posts.......I just want to beat my workmates haha

 

[vsberlina]

Looking forward to not having to go up against Heeney in any of my league matchups, maybe a win is on the horizon!

This reminded me of that scene in 'Big Trouble in Little China'.

"It will come out now more"
"WHAT? What will come out no more?"

I guess the answer was, "Heeney".

View: https://youtu.be/3MeSQU5WSBs?t=26

 

[randomcliche]

Will Lohmann be a successful pick?

 

[Serj]

I've narrowed down my trades this week to 4 choices, which will effect my future trades considerably. Any input would be much appreciated.
Here's the team (not optimised for the byes this week, shown as the long term structure):
Option 1: Grundy/Berry to Marshall/Clohesy (via Laz and Daicos).
This leaves 183.7k in the bank, setting me up well to bring in a Stewart or Dawson type in the coming weeks (trading out Howes/Massimo probably and sliding Roberts into defence). Big tick for having the ruck line solved for the season. Berry to Clohesy isn't strictly needed this week, but Berry has a high BE of 67 and getting Clohesy early secures 6 on field in defence this week, and allows me to bring in both Ramsden and Graham and upgrade next week if all 3 rookies prove to be worth grabbing.

Option 2: Grundy/Berry to English/Clohesy (via Laz and Daicos).
This is pretty much the same as the above, but with only 97.4k in the bank for future upgrades. Marshall has pretty much bottomed out, English is still close to top dollar is making me lean towards option 1 over 2. Similar future plans to above.

Option 3: Howes/Hore/Berry to Clohesy/Graham/Martin (via Laz)
This leaves just 2.7k in the bank, which will likely delay future upgrades by a week, but it cleans up an injured rookie, and 2 rookies who's BE exceeds their average. Going early on both Clohesy and Graham is a risk, but it allows grabbing Nic Martin who is rising fast now and is setting up the team to slide both Roberts and Martin into the backline in r7 (out goes Massimo and whoever, leaving williams at d6), to try to grab Dawson, and not having to worry about fielding any more horrible D rookies. The Grundy upgrade gets put off until he fails to meet his BE with me hoping for English to dip towards 650 odd and Grundy to climb to 550 odd. This does risk Marshall rising back up though and missing him at his cheapest.

Option 4: Hore/Grundy/Berry to Clohesy/Meek/Martin (via laz)
This leaves 47.1k in the bank. Clean up an injured rookie, grab Martin on the way up, and gain some cash and hopefully comparable to Grundy points in Meek. Next week is a probable Howes to Graham trade to build cash, and then a Massimo to Dawson type in 1-2 weeks. This pushes the R2 upgrade out for a month or so same as above. This is a bit riskier relying on Meek, and could force me to pull the trigger on R2 at a non-optimal time if he proves lacking or loses the role. This is also the highest points on field option for this bye week which is nice (2 upgrades with Meek pushing a rookie to the bench)

I'm pretty torn on whether I want to sort the ruck out for good (1/2), gamble on Meek (4), or the relatively tame bank the upgrade and start from scratch again on cash (3).

 

[jel]

Finding trades difficult this week. What I was hoping to do was:
Jordon > Steele
Billings > Lohmann
Jackson > Premo

Gives me 583k for the premo. Can make it 627k or 642k if I opt for Graham or Clohesy.

The thing is, who’s that premium?

Wouldn’t go for a ruck as I have Gawn and Grundy but even if I did, I wouldn’t pay almost 700k for English and I’m not overly interested in Marshall as I don’t think he’ll keep up with English and Gawn.

I have Heeney and Flanders in the forward line. The cupboard is extremely bare after that. I can’t confidently say they’ll finish top 6-8 for any of the others.

I think the top defenders are still sorting themselves out. I have Ryan, Sheezel and Houston right now and Yeo who I’m expecting to offload at some point. I have doubts on Stewart being top 6-8 which is a bold take. He needed 10 intercept marks for his one big score. Just isn’t getting involved enough in the Cats ball movement. Regardless, I wouldn’t be paying 600k for him. Sicily has obvious role issues right now and not touching him. Sinclair is starting to get going after his calf setback but I’d like to wait a bit before grabbing him. Not going anywhere near McGovern. Liked Whitfield but he had a poor game last week and I’ve cooled on him. Duggan I actually thought would be getting more attention as an option. Hurn gone and he’s thriving. Not for me though. Not liking the Young/Clark/NWM options. Guessing game trying to pinpoint who actually works out.

As for the midfielders everyone is at their peak price. My top 10 would be Bont, Petracca, Serong, Green, Merrett, Butters, Gulden, Steele, Libba, Neale in roughly that order. Already own Green, Serong and Libba. Grabbing Steele this week already. Out of the others Bont, Petracca, Merrett and Butters are too expensive, Neale has injury concerns and I like Gulden but he has a bye! Rozee and Dawson look value but I just don’t think they’ll cut it at the end of the season. Andy Brayshaw is there but I don’t think he’ll ever be a top liner in SC like he is in AF. Liked Miller last week but turned off by his recent performance. Not touching LDU and Oliver is very much a wait and see. Was looking at JHF but he needs DPP and Wines out seems to have cost him that. For Martin’s good scores he played the Saints who leak bulk points to defenders and in a heavy loss to Port where the ball lived in his area.

Really want to offload Jackson but I just can’t see a good option for him. Will probably just do a Howes > Clohesy/Graham trade instead and store the cash for Gulden and/or Daicos next week.

I get that Jackson might be impacted by Darcy's return, but he's currently the 2nd best Fwd behind Heeney.
There are only 7 Fwds with an avg >100, 3 are KPF (Mckay, Hogan, King), Zorko (injury waiting to happen) then the top 3 in Heeney, Jackson & Flanders.
I'd give Jackson a couple of games to see how he scores with Darcy, as anything +100 avg will be a top Fwd.

 

[Herbie66]

Oh nice I didn't even think of using daicos to make that move possible thank you so much! Still lots to learn and it's helpful lurking on these posts.......I just want to beat my workmates haha

All good.

Always lots of different options to look at.