Opinion Player X vs. Player Y
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I do. Preseason games are often uncontested but I think the success of the more outside mids has to be given consideration. These are the contested to uncontested ratios from last year (top 40 AFL Fantasy scores, I was a bit lazy and couldn't be bothered looking at top supercoach scores but hopefully you get the idea 
) and if the AFL's desire to have less stoppages and less tackles is a success then these are the players who will suffer.
) and if the AFL's desire to have less stoppages and less tackles is a success then these are the players who will suffer.
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Respectfully disagree here. I think it’s very close.
I actually think that Steele will carry on the excellent form and SC scores from after the bye last year and this year’s JLT.
I feel Dusty will have a better season than last year SC wise but will still spend some time up forward.
It’s very hard to predict what both will average but gun against my head and I would say around 110 for both.
Steele is 50k cheaper and has the better bye for mids so I’m leaning towards him at this stage.
I actually think that Steele will carry on the excellent form and SC scores from after the bye last year and this year’s JLT.
I feel Dusty will have a better season than last year SC wise but will still spend some time up forward.
It’s very hard to predict what both will average but gun against my head and I would say around 110 for both.
Steele is 50k cheaper and has the better bye for mids so I’m leaning towards him at this stage.
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Thanks for your responses. Both are helpful, but I am still torn.
Even though they are a bit old, I am looking at Mundy & Goldy as a couple of safe & reliable hands who have possibly a little bit of upside. Hopefully low drama, set & forget.
Greene seems to have a lot of upside and is super cheap, but has a high injury & suspension risk.
Grundy is obviously capable of scoring big, but is very expensive and has very high ownership. I also continue to be concerned about his toe (even if it is only minor) and whether this may have a small impact on him which might let him be picked up cheaper at some stage.
Out of interest, what do people think Grundy can realistically average this year?
Even though they are a bit old, I am looking at Mundy & Goldy as a couple of safe & reliable hands who have possibly a little bit of upside. Hopefully low drama, set & forget.
Greene seems to have a lot of upside and is super cheap, but has a high injury & suspension risk.
Grundy is obviously capable of scoring big, but is very expensive and has very high ownership. I also continue to be concerned about his toe (even if it is only minor) and whether this may have a small impact on him which might let him be picked up cheaper at some stage.
Out of interest, what do people think Grundy can realistically average this year?
I do. Preseason games are often uncontested but I think the success of the more outside mids has to be given consideration. These are the contested to uncontested ratios from last year (top 40 AFL Fantasy scores, I was a bit lazy and couldn't be bothered looking at top supercoach scores but hopefully you get the idea ) and if the AFL's desire to have less stoppages and less tackles is a success then these are the players who will suffer.
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) and if the AFL's desire to have less stoppages and less tackles is a success then these are the players who will suffer.View attachment 7349
I'm not saying he will, but he's certainly shown he's capable of it. I don't think it's plausible to argue there's more upside in Steele than Dusty, unless you believe Steele is capable of going 115+? As I said I don't think either are great starting picks personally but in XvY's, I'll always lean to the player with more upside when they are at similar price points. If the 50k you save on Steele can be meaningfully invested elsewhere it's potentially a different story, but that's another XvY all together.
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Nah agree I don’t think Steele can go 115 but personally don’t think Dusty can go 120 either.
It would be more so thinking Steele can go 110 at an absolute maximum because I don’t think it’s possible for Dusty to go higher than 120 and he’s already priced 10 points higher than Steele.
It’s a balancing act though because it’s easy to say a guy isn’t capable of going at a rate because he hasn’t done it before compared to someone being capable of doing their past scores again, just because they have in the past. It’s a moot point for a guy at 23 compared to 28 because if you’re picking the cheaper 23 year old, it’s pretty much always going to be on hope they break out like all the other ‘proven’ older guys you are comparing them too. They had to break out at a younger age too and doesn’t mean necessarily they are better picks because they have scored will in the past.
I see a lot of JPK in Steele personally. They are both bulls and Steele now has the tagging role taken away.
JPK seasons:
1) 50.6 (3)
2) 80.8 (10)
3) 81 (22) (NEW CLUB)
4) 96 (22)
5) 119.6 (22) (23 years old)
Steele seasons:
1) 63 (7)
2) 63.8 (10)
3) 91.1 (20) NEW CLUB
4) 94.4 (21)
5) ??? (23 years old)
Not saying he will score anywhere near 120 average but you can see the similarities in their first 4 year form, game style even the new club in their 3rd season, same age, similar sc scores and all.
They are the exact same height and very close to the same weight at the same age too. There’s a lot of comparisons.
It would be more so thinking Steele can go 110 at an absolute maximum because I don’t think it’s possible for Dusty to go higher than 120 and he’s already priced 10 points higher than Steele.
It’s a balancing act though because it’s easy to say a guy isn’t capable of going at a rate because he hasn’t done it before compared to someone being capable of doing their past scores again, just because they have in the past. It’s a moot point for a guy at 23 compared to 28 because if you’re picking the cheaper 23 year old, it’s pretty much always going to be on hope they break out like all the other ‘proven’ older guys you are comparing them too. They had to break out at a younger age too and doesn’t mean necessarily they are better picks because they have scored will in the past.
I see a lot of JPK in Steele personally. They are both bulls and Steele now has the tagging role taken away.
JPK seasons:
1) 50.6 (3)
2) 80.8 (10)
3) 81 (22) (NEW CLUB)
4) 96 (22)
5) 119.6 (22) (23 years old)
Steele seasons:
1) 63 (7)
2) 63.8 (10)
3) 91.1 (20) NEW CLUB
4) 94.4 (21)
5) ??? (23 years old)
Not saying he will score anywhere near 120 average but you can see the similarities in their first 4 year form, game style even the new club in their 3rd season, same age, similar sc scores and all.
They are the exact same height and very close to the same weight at the same age too. There’s a lot of comparisons.
