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They are not even remorseful that they got caught. They just say whatever they are told to make it sound good.
And does this sound familiar?
"Sorry I let myself down and my team mates and club"
And the club will say we won't cut him because we need to "support" him.
These guys have a gift and an opportunity many don't. However they don't care about that. It comes into their thinking.
You work on an o***hore rig and blow numbers or return a positive you are gone. Your family obligations, mortgage etc are not their concern.
And does this sound familiar?
"Sorry I let myself down and my team mates and club"
And the club will say we won't cut him because we need to "support" him.
These guys have a gift and an opportunity many don't. However they don't care about that. It comes into their thinking.
You work on an o***hore rig and blow numbers or return a positive you are gone. Your family obligations, mortgage etc are not their concern.
Must be nice to have never done something in the heat of the moment you wished you hadn’t done later. Never driven over the speed limit or snuck one of dads beers as a teenager?
Young people, men more so, are dumb. We always have been and always will be.
Drug culture is rampant amongst 20 somethings in Australia. It’s unfortunate that it’s progressed from smoking a joint to snorting a line but you’d struggle to find many adults under 25 who haven’t thoroughly experimented these days. Only difference being the footy players get their mistakes plastered all over the news.
Cut the kid some slack I say.
Young people, men more so, are dumb. We always have been and always will be.
Drug culture is rampant amongst 20 somethings in Australia. It’s unfortunate that it’s progressed from smoking a joint to snorting a line but you’d struggle to find many adults under 25 who haven’t thoroughly experimented these days. Only difference being the footy players get their mistakes plastered all over the news.
Cut the kid some slack I say.
Those words, that seem to be quite standard these days after someone's busted, "I've made mistakes", "So sorry I've let everyone down", seems like a pre-prepared speech written by club spin doctors to try to make everyone believe he's truly remorseful but he's probably just spewing that he got caught.
I get your point although I don't agree with the "mistake" part, it was a conscious choice, not a mistake, and isn't he already being cut some substantial slack by not being charged, fined and or imprisoned by the Police just because he's a footy player?
Anyone else probably would be and then have a permanent criminal record.
Anyone else probably would be and then have a permanent criminal record.
Fully agree, not a mistake at all just a really poor choice. He should be charged the same as if Joe Bloggs from Smalltownville did the same thing. The difference being Joe’s big night out doesn’t make national news and nobody ever finds out or gives a crap it happened to begin with.
Drug possession stays on your record for 10 years in Australia unless it leads to a jail sentence which makes it permanent as far as I know.
Stupid kids do stupid things, hopefully this is enough to set him, and perhaps some others, on the straight and narrow.
Drug possession stays on your record for 10 years in Australia unless it leads to a jail sentence which makes it permanent as far as I know.
Stupid kids do stupid things, hopefully this is enough to set him, and perhaps some others, on the straight and narrow.
Generally known as "the Inflatable Boy" speech. "I've let the club down, I've let the supporters down but most of all I've let myself down."
No sympathy for the guy. Why anyone would take a drug used by veterinarians to anaesthetise animals is beyond me. Even if you knew you were getting the genuine product you're still rolling the dice.
No sympathy for the guy. Why anyone would take a drug used by veterinarians to anaesthetise animals is beyond me. Even if you knew you were getting the genuine product you're still rolling the dice.
Funny how the drug system works.
Bailey Smith admits to doing drugs (video proof) = 2 games
Jack Ginnivan admits to doing drugs (video proof) = 2 games
Essendon don't admit to it no proof... = 12 months
(Pretty sure if Essendon admitted they did take drugs it was a very short ban)
**not saying Essendon is guilty or not just a dig at the system even
Bailey Smith admits to doing drugs (video proof) = 2 games
Jack Ginnivan admits to doing drugs (video proof) = 2 games
Essendon don't admit to it no proof... = 12 months
(Pretty sure if Essendon admitted they did take drugs it was a very short ban)
**not saying Essendon is guilty or not just a dig at the system even
Pretty huge difference between running a doping system of banned PED substances compared to using an illicit recreational drug outside of competition.
The bans for the Bombers were actually light compared to the more comparable situations of Rioli, Thomas/Keeffe and Saad.
On a worldwide scale, Essendon got off very lightly for what they did.
The bans for the Bombers were actually light compared to the more comparable situations of Rioli, Thomas/Keeffe and Saad.
On a worldwide scale, Essendon got off very lightly for what they did.
Because generally a video wouldn't hold up in court so they've got no case. He can just say it was sherbet and they can't prove it wasn't.
Another reason why the apologies tend to focus on "Sorry how it looks and that I embarrassed the club" instead of "sorry I took illegal drugs".
Also cops don't care about possession unless you're being a **** and they just want to whack you for something because it's a complete waste of their time to have to write it up. Standard procedure is also a warning for minor possession.
It's really time this country moves on from the pointless war on drugs stance and decriminalises the majority of them, we actually do far more harm by putting the control of the drugs into nefarious hands, stigmatising those who actually have problems with them and railroading treatment options into the legal system. It's a complex topic but our approach has clearly failed completely and the evidence is damning from all countries that have done it that the decriminilisation/legalisation paths just work better in every way (including reducing drug use...)
I personally have a bigger issue with the kind of tall poppy syndrome dickhead that records it and then releases it to the public just to cause harm to someone else, for me that's a bigger problem than Ginnivan enjoying himself on a night out.
Another reason why the apologies tend to focus on "Sorry how it looks and that I embarrassed the club" instead of "sorry I took illegal drugs".
Also cops don't care about possession unless you're being a **** and they just want to whack you for something because it's a complete waste of their time to have to write it up. Standard procedure is also a warning for minor possession.
It's really time this country moves on from the pointless war on drugs stance and decriminalises the majority of them, we actually do far more harm by putting the control of the drugs into nefarious hands, stigmatising those who actually have problems with them and railroading treatment options into the legal system. It's a complex topic but our approach has clearly failed completely and the evidence is damning from all countries that have done it that the decriminilisation/legalisation paths just work better in every way (including reducing drug use...)
I personally have a bigger issue with the kind of tall poppy syndrome dickhead that records it and then releases it to the public just to cause harm to someone else, for me that's a bigger problem than Ginnivan enjoying himself on a night out.
I know we can say, "They're just young, and everyone that age experiments".
I know it's very hard for, particularly for 18-25 year olds to see things the following way ....
Let's take Joe. Joe left school at 19, and is working a job that will likely never lead to a $100k+/year salary, in the next 20 years. Joe is currently earning $50k/year, and unless he a) inherits a lot of money. b) wins the lottery. C) marries into money, Joe will never own the 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom house on a 1/4 acre block, that older Aussies nearly took for granted.
One day, some rich old codger comes up to Joe, and says "I like you Joe. I'm going to pay $5-$6 million over the next 10 years. All I ask I is, you never use drugs. Get caught, or fail one test, and it's over, and you go back to your $50k/year job. I promise you. We will watch, monitor and test you closely and regularly". The job has nothing immoral or illegal about it.
I reckon every single Joe out there would say "sign me up", and I reckon a very very large % of them would be able to make the connection of "why would I even do one line of blow, for a quick buzz, when it will cost me millions?". Surely the incentive is there. Put it on a table. "Hey Joe, pick which table you want. This one piled high with cash, or this one with 4 lines of Colombian marching powder."
The number of knuckle heads that pick the wrong table is just too damned high! "I'll take the money, then I can buy all the nose candy I want. No one will ever know! I'm too smart! I won't get caught!"
The number of players, that think they're too smart, or just have lived too much of an entitled life, is ridiculous. It's further proof of what they say. The last part of a person, particularly a male, that matures and reaches full growth, is the part of the brain that can fully reconcile and predict, the consequences of our actions. That brain maturity doesn't happen in most males until the age of 24-26. And we ask ourselves why say 23 year olds do such dumb things. Shouldn't they know better by that age? And the answer, physiologically, is no!
Cashed up 22 year olds, with lesser educations, and lots of time on their hands. What could possibly go wrong????!!!!
I know it's very hard for, particularly for 18-25 year olds to see things the following way ....
Let's take Joe. Joe left school at 19, and is working a job that will likely never lead to a $100k+/year salary, in the next 20 years. Joe is currently earning $50k/year, and unless he a) inherits a lot of money. b) wins the lottery. C) marries into money, Joe will never own the 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom house on a 1/4 acre block, that older Aussies nearly took for granted.
One day, some rich old codger comes up to Joe, and says "I like you Joe. I'm going to pay $5-$6 million over the next 10 years. All I ask I is, you never use drugs. Get caught, or fail one test, and it's over, and you go back to your $50k/year job. I promise you. We will watch, monitor and test you closely and regularly". The job has nothing immoral or illegal about it.
I reckon every single Joe out there would say "sign me up", and I reckon a very very large % of them would be able to make the connection of "why would I even do one line of blow, for a quick buzz, when it will cost me millions?". Surely the incentive is there. Put it on a table. "Hey Joe, pick which table you want. This one piled high with cash, or this one with 4 lines of Colombian marching powder."
The number of knuckle heads that pick the wrong table is just too damned high! "I'll take the money, then I can buy all the nose candy I want. No one will ever know! I'm too smart! I won't get caught!"
The number of players, that think they're too smart, or just have lived too much of an entitled life, is ridiculous. It's further proof of what they say. The last part of a person, particularly a male, that matures and reaches full growth, is the part of the brain that can fully reconcile and predict, the consequences of our actions. That brain maturity doesn't happen in most males until the age of 24-26. And we ask ourselves why say 23 year olds do such dumb things. Shouldn't they know better by that age? And the answer, physiologically, is no!
Cashed up 22 year olds, with lesser educations, and lots of time on their hands. What could possibly go wrong????!!!!
This resonates with me really strongly! One thing that I think is often missed in these conversations is part of why the get paid such inflated salaries is the lack of privacy and different expectations on them. If they are too hard to deal with, leave footy and get a regular job that affords you the privacy to live your life as you wish. But you can't take the perks and then moan about the unfairness of it all - especially when the privilege these players get off being good at a sport is pretty extreme.
The situation is pretty different though. The AFL clearly has zero problem with the players doing drugs, it's only if they're caught in public or competition that it's an issue.
Basically they've got multiple systems that tell the players to do drugs if they're going to do anything but the media side of it needs to be managed by the player and if they mess that up then they have to cop a punishment.
The simple fact is that tackling someone too hard is still a bigger crime in the AFL than getting caught doing drugs and that should really sum up the AFL position.
Basically they've got multiple systems that tell the players to do drugs if they're going to do anything but the media side of it needs to be managed by the player and if they mess that up then they have to cop a punishment.
The simple fact is that tackling someone too hard is still a bigger crime in the AFL than getting caught doing drugs and that should really sum up the AFL position.
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