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[The Experiment]

G'day all, Would love some feedback on my team.

DEF: Shaw, Smith, JJ, Lonergan, Weitering, Dea, Brown, Ruggles
MID: Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Rockliff, Wines, Crouch, Mills, Menadue, Gore, Hewett, Davis
RUCK: Goldstein, Gawn, Wyatt
FWD: Barlow, Lecras, Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge, Adams, AMT

$36K leftover

G'day Nypsie, welcome to the site

Love that you are have picked someone completely left of field in LeCras, but I just dont think at this stage of his career it is the best move. He has a career high season of 93 back in 2006 and a 90 back in 2014. At 440k he would probably have to have a nearly career best season to be justified as a good pick, that is probably unlikely at this stage of his career. His history would suggest mid 80s is probably what you can expect from him, which is neither here nor there...

Secondly, you possibly have 1 or 2 too many potential breakout players down back in Smith, JJ and Lonergan. There might be some merit in downgrading Shaw and upgrading one of those 3 to a more 'stable' premium.

Mids, Rucks and rest of forward line look great however. Best of luck this year

 

[Nefreyu]

Hi Guys,

Final team for now until teams are announced:

DEF
Shaw, Houli, Bartel, Smith, Hartley, Broad ( Ruggle, AMT)

MID
Fyfe, Danger, Pendle, Ablet, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Menadue (Gresh, Hewett, Davis)

RUCK
Gawn, Smith (Grimsly)

FWRD
Martin, Barlow, DeGoey, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge (Mcarthy, Adams)

Lots of cash spent in the midfield but they are guns and i am confided they will be top 8 mids.
Z.Smith is a steping stone to goldy. He will average 95 and increase 100k at which time hopefully goldy has droped to 600ish
DeGoey is my midprice risk. Black and white blinders on as a pies supporter! He impressed me last year and i think he is going to be a star so happy to bring him along for the ride this year!
I think most lines look fairly strong with my fwrd having the least cash spent but heaps to be made.

 

[BigRuss]

Never been one for keeping my starting side secret as there's normally plenty better coaches than myself willing to share.

TheRustyFishHooks $55.4k remaining

Laird, Bartel, Yeo, Lonergan, Brown, Hartley, Adams, Ruggles

Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Gaz, Rockliff, Mills, Oliver, Kennedy, Gresham, Petracca, Davis

Goldy, Jacobs, King

Dusty, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Menadue, Kerridge, McCarthy, Tipingwuti.

Suppose I'll start with the obvious exclusions. Shaw and Libba, both players have been discussed extensively all pre season so there's really not much to explain. A 600k defender is absolutely insane to me. Libba on the other hand has his merits, with his ownership % so high I'm going to bank on him coming back to around that 90-95 average and end up being a floundering M8 for most sides.

Light defence seems the way to go for me this year, I've had Boyd at D1 for a long time but that last couple weeks with the really poor rookie situation coming to light has forced me to pinch back the 60k and drop him down to Laird. Bartel and Lonergan seem pretty risk free to me if I take the view of upgrading Lonergan at about round 8, hopefully the same time McVeigh bottoms out. Gut instinct tells me Yeo will explode this year, full pre season, plate removed from his hand, and hopefully a more stable role all points in that direction.

Big 5 mids don't need much explanation. Expecting 115-120 from each and every one of them, think it will be a failure if they return any less. Strong (perceived) M5-M8 rookies to hopefully sit there as long as possible as the fwds/defs need to be built up fairly quick.

Won't explain Goldy, has his obvious risks and rewards and will likely end up #1 ruck and best case potentially #1 overall again this year. I've agonised over R2 like most but my gut instinct pre season always pushed me towards Jacobs. I don't buy into the FTB status for ruckman. Crows won 11 in 2014 and he averaged 115. Coincidentally 2014 was his last uninterrupted pre season and 2016 will be exactly that. I expect them to win 10-11 again this year and 110+ from sauce.

The forwards present me with likely my last XvY scenario. My team feels relatively risk free with only Lonergan Hall and Sauce presenting any real risk. The DPP on Hall/Lonergan even reduces the risk further. And there lies the problem, not enough upside.

The alternate is to Swap Dusty & Ruggles for DeGoey and B Crouch. It lets me remove a questionable on field rookie (Menadue) and a Martin with clear off field issues, for 2 highly rated breakout contenders. I've watched Crouch play a fair bit in the SANFL and if his body holds together, he IS a 100 point player, and while I don't know much of DeGoey he ticks all the right boxes. Contested player in an improving side who can kick goals.

Edit: DeGpoy/Crouch option allows Boyd at D1, but with 1.1k in the kitty.

I'll chuck this XvY up in the proper thread but thought I'd chuck it in here to help see the rationale of the team.

Bit of a long winded post so cheers to anyone who takes the time to read and throw some feedback my way.

3 days til footy lads, for anyone that hasn't read Courtesans "The last inch" go and have a read before you start changing things too much.

 

[Ben's Beasts]

Never been one for keeping my starting side secret as there's normally plenty better coaches than myself willing to share.

TheRustyFishHooks $55.4k remaining

Laird, Bartel, Yeo, Lonergan, Brown, Hartley, Adams, Ruggles

Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Gaz, Rockliff, Mills, Oliver, Kennedy, Gresham, Petracca, Davis

Goldy, Jacobs, King

Dusty, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Menadue, Kerridge, McCarthy, Tipingwuti.

Suppose I'll start with the obvious exclusions. Shaw and Libba, both players have been discussed extensively all pre season so there's really not much to explain. A 600k defender is absolutely insane to me. Libba on the other hand has his merits, with his ownership % so high I'm going to bank on him coming back to around that 90-95 average and end up being a floundering M8 for most sides.

Light defence seems the way to go for me this year, I've had Boyd at D1 for a long time but that last couple weeks with the really poor rookie situation coming to light has forced me to pinch back the 60k and drop him down to Laird. Bartel and Lonergan seem pretty risk free to me if I take the view of upgrading Lonergan at about round 8, hopefully the same time McVeigh bottoms out. Gut instinct tells me Yeo will explode this year, full pre season, plate removed from his hand, and hopefully a more stable role all points in that direction.

Big 5 mids don't need much explanation. Expecting 115-120 from each and every one of them, think it will be a failure if they return any less. Strong (perceived) M5-M8 rookies to hopefully sit there as long as possible as the fwds/defs need to be built up fairly quick.

Won't explain Goldy, has his obvious risks and rewards and will likely end up #1 ruck and best case potentially #1 overall again this year. I've agonised over R2 like most but my gut instinct pre season always pushed me towards Jacobs. I don't buy into the FTB status for ruckman. Crows won 11 in 2014 and he averaged 115. Coincidentally 2014 was his last uninterrupted pre season and 2016 will be exactly that. I expect them to win 10-11 again this year and 110+ from sauce.

The forwards present me with likely my last XvY scenario. My team feels relatively risk free with only Lonergan Hall and Sauce presenting any real risk. The DPP on Hall/Lonergan even reduces the risk further. And there lies the problem, not enough upside.

The alternate is to Swap Dusty & Ruggles for DeGoey and B Crouch. It lets me remove a questionable on field rookie (Menadue) and a Martin with clear off field issues, for 2 highly rated breakout contenders. I've watched Crouch play a fair bit in the SANFL and if his body holds together, he IS a 100 point player, and while I don't know much of DeGoey he ticks all the right boxes. Contested player in an improving side who can kick goals.

I'll chuck this XvY up in the proper thread but thought I'd chuck it in here to help see the rationale of the team.

Bit of a long winded post so cheers to anyone who takes the time to read and throw some feedback my way.

3 days til footy lads, for anyone that hasn't read Courtesans "The last inch" go and have a read before you start changing things too much.

Like it a lot mate.

Just a lazy 24 players that we have the same which may become 25 depending on whether or not Gresham plays round 1!

I prefer Dusty and Ruggles to De Goey and B Crouch.

 

[Savvy90]

Big Russ, that is a nicely weighted team! well done.

Personally, I wouldn't change it. For a 5 prem midfield structure, I don't think you could have constructed it any better. Bravo!

 

[Brettthejett]

What do you guys and gals think of a value team along these lines?

 

[BigRuss]

What do you guys and gals think of a value team along these lines?

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If there was ever a year to do it mate, this would be it. "The Wifes" team will end up looking like this i reckon.

 

[Clint]

If there was ever a year to do it mate, this would be it. "The Wifes" team will end up looking like this i reckon.

agreed, I think it could pay off

 

[Clint]

Argggh, last minute jitters... Which one guys?

Team 1


or

Team 2



Thinking Shaw might be overpriced and then I can target him and Dusty for my first upgrades.

 

[Maccas marvels]

Hall replacing pendles in mids allowing to strengthen rookies across def, mid and forward. Just shy of getting Milera up fwd but might make further changes pending naming of selected teams.

Does this team provide greater chance for cash generation with the changes?

Keen to hear your thoughts

 

[Maccas marvels]

Hi Clint, definitely team 1. If you think shaw over priced swap for Houli and thus allows you to further upgrade lonergan/ dea or de goey or bring Oliver into your mids. Great team!

 

[Maccas marvels]

If there was ever a year to do it mate, this would be it. "The Wifes" team will end up looking like this i reckon.

Great looking team, really like the backline! Maybe one premium short in the mids however

 

[Clint]

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Hall replacing pendles in mids allowing to strengthen rookies across def, mid and forward. Just shy of getting Milera up fwd but might make further changes pending naming of selected teams.

Does this team provide greater chance for cash generation with the changes?

Keen to hear your thoughts

My only concern would be the forwards and how McCarthy and McGovern might go

 

[Darkie]

Darkie you've been more than generous with taking the time to provide feedback for a whole bunch of people so I'll give you my take on your team.

On your backs I'm not in love with the Smith pick but can certainly see why you've picked him. I have Shaw/Boyd/McVeigh as clear top 6 picks which would mean you'll need to turn one of your existing into premium bench cover or sideways one of them. You may of course disagree about those 3 then it's a non issue

I like Oliver but I like BCrouch so much more. Potential 100+ mid pricer for mine (if he can stay fit) and one I'll struggle to leave out if named Rd 1. I can see you've decided to leave Fyfe out which I can understand why.

Boomer fwd could be a nice Pod. Any reason in particular you've gone with him over the more fancied Buddy?

A couple of floating donuts is interesting, especially as one of them is not the more popular R3 that ppl usually go.

All in all a very solid team but as you don't have Shaw and Fyfe, I feel you're a premium short.

Thanks for your feedback IDIG. I agree with you re those defs having higher averages, although I expect Boyd to miss a lot of games, so he's a bit like Beams - great when he's playing, but middling (and probably quite overpriced) on a PIT basis. Shaw and McVeigh should be my two upgrade targets.

I will have a think about B Crouch. I gather Oliver's JS could suffer from Brayshaw's early recovery, and I do have spare cash (for now! ) so Crouch could be a reasonable use of that.

I've gone Boomer over Buddy because I think Buddy is quite risky. He's always been injury-prone (often niggly ones that go from one week to three, if memory serves), and now has had mental health issues as well. If I thought Boomer would average moderately less, I'd potentially take the risk on Buddy, but am happy to take the safer route with Boomer. I'm surprised he's such a POD, although I'm happy enough to pick him either way

The two FDs could change to one if another good rookie pops up, but unfortunately that seems pretty unlikely at this stage!

Thanks again, I will have a think about whether Shaw or Crouch is a good use of my excess cash.

 

[Darkie]

Don't mind this team. I think your team would be better however if you downgraded Smith to a rookie and had an extra promo in the midfield. I just think that DEF premos are too unreliable to start heavy there and you can generally pick up premos there on the cheap. Harvey could be a good POD but I'm not brave enough to pick him at this stage of his career.

Feedback on my team would appreciated.


DEF: Shaw, Laird, Lonergan, Weitering, Dea, Hartley (Broad, Brown)

MID: Danger, Pendles, Ablett, R.Gray, Rockliff, Parker, Libba, Mills (Gresham, Keays, Davis)

RUC: Goldy, NicNat (King)

FWD: Barlow, Hall, Wells, Menadue, Kennedy, Kerridge (Grimley, Tipungwuti)

12k left. Risky strategy but I really do think it's worth taking because premo defenders and forwards are usually easier to pick up on the cheap than the mid ones. If Libba and Hall turn out to be keepers that gives me 13 keepers to start with.

Thoughts?

Thanks SOG. I will have a think about Smith, although at this stage I think I'd need more cash to get someone good as a premium in the midfield ... If I'm going to pick someone who is below the top-priced names on their line, I'd rather someone who was a premo only the year before, and I'd probably rather do it in defence. You're right about often being able to pick up def premos cheap though ... I guess I see Smith as being in that category, but admittedly if you don't, he doesn't look a great pick.

On your team: I think it looks pretty good, but that your mids are detracting from your defence. I see Libba as a keeper, giving you as many as seven keeper mids! Perhaps remove your least favourite mid (I'd suggest Gray or Parker) and include another keeper def like Bartel(who I view as a lock, first picked def) or Simpson (who tends to give you what you pay for). Some more informed Bombers followers think Dea won't play consistently, in which case he's not necessarily a safe option, and you probably need a fairly safe option given you have Lonergan at D3. I like your rucks, obviously, and have 7 of your 8 forwards, so no issues there. A slight structural rejig and I'd be pretty happy to go in with this side.

Thanks again for your feedback, and good luck.

 

[Brettthejett]

hmmmm think this will be my last team i post here before lockout

what do you guys honestly think of this side.

i have 107k left so can turn smith into houli/laird but smith should be within 5-8 points of them (i hope)

 

[TeeButOne]

Haven't had a crack at getting my team in this thread yet, so here does. Here’s what I’ll probably be running with for 2016:

DEF: Simpson, Bartel, B. Smith, Z. Williams, Brown, Adams
(Hartley, Broad)

MID: Pendlebury, Ablett, Sloane, T. Mitchell, Rockliff, Wines, Liberatore, Mills
(Gresham, Keays, Davis)

RUCKS: Goldstein, Jacobs
(M. King)

FWD: Barlow, Greene, Wells, Menadue, McCarthy, Kerridge
(Kommer, McDonald-Tipungwuti)

$128k left in the bank

Some consistency, but have decided to go against the “cookie-cutter” in a number of areas. Focused on value wherever I could find it. The main focus overall was the rookie depth, and as a result, the significant variation of premiums in each line. Only 2 keepers in the FWD line, versus 6-7 in the MID line.

Obviously a number of risks, and potential injuries abound, but couldn’t turn down the value on offer (pretty much my entire MID line are “value” picks of sort). Have a bit of cash leftover, but that could change depending on rookie selections (may need some to upgrade to a more expensive rookie, such as Ben Kennedy, Weitering, Oliver, etc. (although don’t really want to)). Rookie positions also not locked away (which ones are on field vs. on bench).

Feel free to chime in with your comments. Still potential to sway me one way or the other, particularly around injury-prone risks.

 

[jaca]

D: Shaw, Laird, Simpson, Bartel, Brown, Hartley (Tippa, Ruggles)
M: Fyfe, Danger, GAJ, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Oliver, Bennedy (Gresham, Newman, Davis)
R: Goldy, Gawn (Wyatt)
F: Dusty, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kerridge, Menadue (McCarthy, Adams)

I make that 14 keepers if Hall goes OK. Kerridge may turn into a star too, but not exactly a POD!)

Hi Guys,

I'd been pretty settled with my team, but wiser heads are making me question the spend on Shaw. I like the 4 def set-up, but since I know I'll want Shaw and McVeigh at some stage I've doubled downgraded on Simmo and Shaw to Smith and Lonergan. This has allowed me to upgrade Oliver (also hearing uncertainty given Brayshaw's fitness). Forwards / Rucks remain the same.

So, here's an alternative, and it's an X vs Y team. Thoughts?

D: Laird, BArtel, Smith, Lonergan, Brown, Hartley (Tippa, Ruggles)
M: Fyfe, GAJ, Danger, Rocky, Parker, Libba, Mills, Kennedy (Gresham, Hewett, Davis)
R: Goldy, Gawn (Wyatt)
F: Dusty, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kerridge, Menadue (McCarthy, Adams)

 

[THCLT]

Haven't had a crack at getting my team in this thread yet, so here does. Here’s what I’ll probably be running with for 2016:

DEF: Simpson, Bartel, B. Smith, Z. Williams, Brown, Adams
(Hartley, Broad)

MID: Pendlebury, Ablett, Sloane, T. Mitchell, Rockliff, Wines, Liberatore, Mills
(Gresham, Keays, Davis)

RUCKS: Goldstein, Jacobs
(M. King)

FWD: Barlow, Greene, Wells, Menadue, McCarthy, Kerridge
(Kommer, McDonald-Tipungwuti)

$128k left in the bank

Some consistency, but have decided to go against the “cookie-cutter” in a number of areas. Focused on value wherever I could find it. The main focus overall was the rookie depth, and as a result, the significant variation of premiums in each line. Only 2 keepers in the FWD line, versus 6-7 in the MID line.

Obviously a number of risks, and potential injuries abound, but couldn’t turn down the value on offer (pretty much my entire MID line are “value” picks of sort). Have a bit of cash leftover, but that could change depending on rookie selections (may need some to upgrade to a more expensive rookie, such as Ben Kennedy, Weitering, Oliver, etc. (although don’t really want to)). Rookie positions also not locked away (which ones are on field vs. on bench).

Feel free to chime in with your comments. Still potential to sway me one way or the other, particularly around injury-prone risks.

I really like the balance and value of your team TBO across all the lines.

Def: You've chosen wisely with a mix of old warriors in Simpson & Bartel and hoping that Smith bounces back from last year. The Williams pick is interesting and I assume going against the Sheridan/Lonergan types, just watch team selection as he missed their final NAB and I don't think his position in the 22 is guaranteed by all means.

Mid: Like you mentioned, 'value & deep' is the theme you're going with here and the result is a sound one. There's a real good mix of players here and your bench should be making money with the only exception maybe being Keays (not sure whether he's in the mix for round 1). Even if he does get a gig, be mindful that there's a few players to return to that Brisbane side.

Ruc: Set and forget, with Jacobs providing you with a decent POD at R2...I like it a lot!

Fwd: Most teams have reverted to this set up and for good reason. The only thing I would suggest is maybe consider Grimley instead of Kommer because I think their JS and scoring output is about the same, but at least Grimley gives you a link to King at R3.

Overall: A very sound and well balanced team, considering the current rookie situation. If things goes your way, you could have 16 season long keepers in that line up, plus the capacity to maximise your cash generation with the remaining rookies. You've also got a very handy bank to make any rookies adjustment when the team sheets drop. Well done and a great effort to get your team to where it is.

 

[THCLT]

Hi Guys,

I'd been pretty settled with my team, but wiser heads are making me question the spend on Shaw. I like the 4 def set-up, but since I know I'll want Shaw and McVeigh at some stage I've doubled downgraded on Simmo and Shaw to Smith and Lonergan. This has allowed me to upgrade Oliver (also hearing uncertainty given Brayshaw's fitness). Forwards / Rucks remain the same.

So, here's an alternative, and it's an X vs Y team. Thoughts?

D: Laird, BArtel, Smith, Lonergan, Brown, Hartley (Tippa, Ruggles)
M: Fyfe, GAJ, Danger, Rocky, Parker, Libba, Mills, Kennedy (Gresham, Hewett, Davis)
R: Goldy, Gawn (Wyatt)
F: Dusty, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kerridge, Menadue (McCarthy, Adams)

I think that the changes weakens your starting team as you've gone from potentially 2 keepers + Oliver to 3 speculative keepers.

If you're starting to get cold feet on Shaw and concern about having both of Bennedy and Oliver, I would suggest maybe downgrade Shaw to a cheaper DEF keeper and bring Oliver to a BCrouch or De Goey type.