Opinion Rate My Team

[BomberSam]

Yeah, they are just holding at the moment. Planning to run a F/D FD and after reading your analysis in the rookie thread, it will probably be Ueberang (sp.)

I can't decide between Wyatt and Uebergang as a FD, here's why.

With Wyatt (R/F), I can put him at R2 with Gawn as emergency and execute the captain loophole with no dramas. But what about this scenario? I want to exploit both the emergency and captain loophole, so I sit him at F6 with Menadue as an emergency. Let's say Menadue scores 27, but Ablett (VC) scores 132. IF BOTH of Goldy and Gawn have played and IF Grimley has played, then I need to decide whether to cop Menadue's 27 in order to lock away a 132X2, or bring McDonald-Tipungwuti on and set Fyfe as captain. However, if Grimley and one of Goldy/Gawn has not yet played, I could swap Wyatt into the rucks, set Goldy/Gawn as emergency, and play McDonald-Tipungwuti, therefore taking Ablett's captain score and having a second chance to increase my onfield rookie score. A very handy bit of flexibility to have, for sure.

If I start Uebergang, then I have the flexibility to loop either a forward or a defender on any given week, an instant +1 on Wyatt. However, if my emergency scores poorly and my VC pumps out a big score, then I am stuck in that situation where I have to decide between poor rookie plus good captain score, or risk a smaller captain score in order to play a better rookie. Of course, we draw lines at certain scores. If the VC score is greater than 130, it should probably be locked in, regardless of a pathetic rookie score.

Any thoughts or opinions would be greatly appreciated.

EDIT: After looking at the fixture, we tend to play before Collingwood often, rendering Grimley useless to swap with Wyatt. This leans me towards Uebergang, however I am still keen to hear the communities thoughts on this.

 

[min0008]

Here is my team at the moment.

Def: Shaw, Laird, Johanissen, Weitering, Dea, Hartley (Brown, Ruggles)
Mid: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Rockliff, Parker, Libba, Mills, Gresham (Gore, Keays, Davis)
Ruc: Martin, Nic Nat (Cox)
Fwd: Martin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge (McCarthy, McDonald-Tipungwiti)

 

[Bomber18]

I can't decide between Wyatt and Uebergang as a FD, here's why.

With Wyatt (R/F), I can put him at R2 with Gawn as emergency and execute the captain loophole with no dramas. But what about this scenario? I want to exploit both the emergency and captain loophole, so I sit him at F6 with Menadue as an emergency. Let's say Menadue scores 27, but Ablett (VC) scores 132. IF BOTH of Goldy and Gawn have played and IF Grimley has played, then I need to decide whether to cop Menadue's 27 in order to lock away a 132X2, or bring McDonald-Tipungwuti on and set Fyfe as captain. However, if Grimley and one of Goldy/Gawn has not yet played, I could swap Wyatt into the rucks, set Goldy/Gawn as emergency, and play McDonald-Tipungwuti, therefore taking Ablett's captain score and having a second chance to increase my onfield rookie score. A very handy bit of flexibility to have, for sure.

If I start Uebergang, then I have the flexibility to loop either a forward or a defender on any given week, an instant +1 on Wyatt. However, if my emergency scores poorly and my VC pumps out a big score, then I am stuck in that situation where I have to decide between poor rookie plus good captain score, or risk a smaller captain score in order to play a better rookie. Of course, we draw lines at certain scores. If the VC score is greater than 130, it should probably be locked in, regardless of a pathetic rookie score.

Any thoughts or opinions would be greatly appreciated.

EDIT: After looking at the fixture, we tend to play before Collingwood often, rendering Grimley useless to swap with Wyatt. This leans me towards Uebergang, however I am still keen to hear the communities thoughts on this.

This quite a good point you picked up on. I think if trying to utilise both the emergency loophole and captain option, the freo boys might work best. Especially for teams that have both Barlow and Sheridan as you can loophole them if the emergency loophole option fails.

With Ueber, every week you need to make sure your emergency loophole target plays before one of Adams & Tippa (in order to allow a switch if the emergency score is rubbish).
You also need to make sure your emergency in the opposite end hasnt played yet to allow a Barlow/Sheridan loophole just to allow the captain score loop. The safest way to do this is to always seperate Adams and Ueber and select Adams as emergency. When Adams plays early select Tippa as emergency and choose a loophole target at the opposite end that plays before both Tippa.
I wouldn't suggest starting Sheridan just to allow a better use of the loophole but it definitely helps me as i had him locked already.
Did the explanation make sense?

 

[cotchy98]

Another Re jig, would like everyone's thoughts.

DEF: Shaw, Rance, Birchall, Weitering, Brown, Adams ( Hartley, Ruggles)

MID: Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Shiel, Hannebery, Mills, Oliver, B.Crouch ( Gresham, Hewett, Davis)

Rucks: Gawn, Nicnat ( Grimley)

FWD: Martin, Barlow, Franklin, D.Rioli, Kerridge, Milera ( McCarthy, Tippa)

What do we think?
Pretty close to my starting side.

 

[BomberSam]

This quite a good point you picked up on. I think if trying to utilise both the emergency loophole and captain option, the freo boys might work best. Especially for teams that have both Barlow and Sheridan as you can loophole them if the emergency loophole option fails.

With Ueber, every week you need to make sure your emergency loophole target plays before one of Adams & Tippa (in order to allow a switch if the emergency score is rubbish).
You also need to make sure your emergency in the opposite end hasnt played yet to allow a Barlow/Sheridan loophole just to allow the captain score loop. The safest way to do this is to always seperate Adams and Ueber and select Adams as emergency. When Adams plays early select Tippa as emergency and choose a loophole target at the opposite end that plays before both Tippa and Adams.
I wouldn't suggest starting Sheridan just to allow a better use of the loophole but it definitely helps me as i had him locked already.
Did the explanation make sense?

What if Tippa is my emergency loophole target? EDIT: I understand this part now!

I have Sheridan locked in too. I don't quite understand how he and Barlow come into play here though? Sorry, it's too complex for my basic mind.

 

[jones711]

Not a bad side Cotchy, and although your structure resembles the one that the majority seem to be running with this year, there are some more risky PODs in there which could set you apart from the pack (in either a good or bad way !). I'm referring to Rance, Birchall in the backs, Shiel, Hannebery in the mids and perhaps Buddy in the forwards. Looking at each individually nothing wrong at all with any of those picks, but grouped together in the one side they give you that PODish element that is a nice touch. I would avoid Rioli in the forward line though, or have in on the bench if you must have him as I doubt he will be getting a game early.

 

[Bomber18]

What if Tippa is my emergency loophole target? EDIT: I understand this part now!

I have Sheridan locked in too. I don't quite understand how he and Barlow come into play here though? Sorry, it's too complex for my basic mind.

Definitely very confusing! Because they are freo players like Ueber, so you can always bring them on bench and emergency them and put Ueber on field for a C loophole.
I'll try make an example.

 

[Bomber18]

Round 1
D: Hartley, Brown (Adams (E), Tippa)
F: Ueber (Menadue (E), McCarthy)

Menadue scores 20 but Gaz scores 150.
Switch so
D: Brown, Ueber (C) (Tippa, Sheridan (E))
F: McCarthy (Menadue (E), Adams)

 

[BomberSam]

Round 1
D: Hartley, Brown (Adams (E), Tippa)
F: Ueber (Menadue (E), McCarthy)

Menadue scores 20 but Gaz scores 150.
Switch so
D: Brown, Ueber (C) (Tippa, Sheridan (E))
F: McCarthy (Menadue (E), Adams)

All makes sense now, thanks heaps Bomber!

 

[Bomber18]

All makes sense now, thanks heaps Bomber!

No worries. I also didn't consider what to do if the emergency fails but figured out a way to fix it. Probably locked into Ueber now!

 

[bloke]

D: Laird, Simpson, Yeo, Kolo, Sheridan, Weitering (Hartley, Brown)
M: Fyfe, Gaz, Danger, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Oliver, Gresham (Menadue, Keays, Davis)
R: Goldy, NicNat (Grimley)
F: Dusty, Barlow, Wells, Kerridge, Kennedy (McCarthy, AMT)

Better rookies but thin forwards

 

[Adrenaline]

Made Some changes this morning lol. Will explain what it was too with brackets.

B: Shaw, Laird, Houli, Weitering (Dea) Brown, Adams, BEN: Hartley, Ruggles

M: Fyfe, Ablett, Dangerfield, Rockliff, Libba (Hall) Mills, Menaude, Gresham, BEN: Oliver (Gore) Keays, Davis

R: Goldstein, Martin, BEN: Grimley

F: Montagna, Martin, Barlow, Wells, Kerridge, B.Kennedy, BEN: Kommer, McDonald-Tippafjfghgfg

So Trading Hall back to Libba allowed me to upgrade Dea to Weitering and Gore to Oliver. Running with 3 rookies in DEF I'm not sure if I should maybe play it safe with Weitering at D4. Obviously teams will change everyone's plans esp if I see the like of broad, bonner and byrne named. Just read Oscar McDonald (155k) is a strong chance to play after a strong VFL showing.

Really not settled on which way to go hence posting here lol. Downgrading S.Martin and some other tinkering can probably turn that M5 spot into pendles

hi zimzum i have gone with the same structure. a couple of differences to my team. i have made libba into pendles and martin into gawn and montayna into hall. i think your paying overs for montayna or even lids and you might be able to get them cheaper throughout the season. martin will definitely be in the top 4 rucks this year so it will be tough to downgrade him however there is more upside of getting pendles. i agree with row comments regarding libba. he has come off an acl he hasnt played for over 12 months. he will need to avg about 105 to be a good pick and im not sure if that will happen. pendles you will get 115-120.

overall mate really good team. i like it. some good rookies there. i wouldnt play dea and use weitering for js purposes. you have nailed your rookies. well done mate and all the best for the season.

 

[Mame]

Thoughts please?

 

[JB16]

D: Laird, Simpson, Yeo, Kolo, Sheridan, Weitering (Hartley, Brown)
M: Fyfe, Gaz, Danger, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Oliver, Gresham (Menadue, Keays, Davis)
R: Goldy, NicNat (Grimley)
F: Dusty, Barlow, Wells, Kerridge, Kennedy (McCarthy, AMT)

Better rookies but thin forwards

Very thin forwards with only 5 of them starting aha

 

[Blaze]

Thoughts please?

View attachment 1039

Thumbs up

 

[Bomber18]

D: Laird, Simpson, Yeo, Kolo, Sheridan, Weitering (Hartley, Brown)
M: Fyfe, Gaz, Danger, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Oliver, Gresham (Menadue, Keays, Davis)
R: Goldy, NicNat (Grimley)
F: Dusty, Barlow, Wells, Kerridge, Kennedy (McCarthy, AMT)

Better rookies but thin forwards

Who's your last forward rookie?
Looks pretty good overall, but you might be sacrificing a few top liners in defence by going so need as you've filled most of your spots. Assuming Weitering becomes Shaw, you can't get McVeigh, Houli, McDonald, Rance anymore.

 

[Zim^zuM]

hi zimzum i have gone with the same structure. a couple of differences to my team. i have made libba into pendles and martin into gawn and montayna into hall. i think your paying overs for montayna or even lids and you might be able to get them cheaper throughout the season. martin will definitely be in the top 4 rucks this year so it will be tough to downgrade him however there is more upside of getting pendles. i agree with row comments regarding libba. he has come off an acl he hasnt played for over 12 months. he will need to avg about 105 to be a good pick and im not sure if that will happen. pendles you will get 115-120.

overall mate really good team. i like it. some good rookies there. i wouldnt play dea and use weitering for js purposes. you have nailed your rookies. well done mate and all the best for the season.

Yeah I agonised on swapping pendles with danger. Changed montagna to hall, oliver to gore and libba to pendles. I'm hoping Ablett doesnt play so I can easily leave him out.

 

[Plo Koon]

21.4k left in the pocket

 

[Courtesans]

View attachment 1040

21.4k left in the pocket

Downgrade a mid, Selwood maybe to; I suggest Oliver, Upgrade Weit. to a keeper. Better balanced side, not so much potential grief in the backline.

 

[DMCC10]

DEF: Shaw, Bartel, Yeo, Lonergan, Adams, Broad (Hartley, Uebergang)

MID: GAJ, Rockliff, Selwood, JPK, Ward, Liberatore, Crouch, Gresham (Hewett, Clarke, Davis)

RUC: Goldstein, Gawn (Goetz)

FWD: Martin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Menadue, Kerridge (Brown, AMT)