Position Forwards Discussion

[Tails]

Did some more digging on D Mundy regarding his possession count and contested possessions over the past 3 years.

Since 2016 Mundy has played 61 of a possible 66 games for an average of 92.91 SC and 22.43 disposals.

When Mundy has recorded 20 or more disposals over the past 3 seasons he has averaged 101.24 from 41 matches in comparison to an average of 75.8 from 20 games when he has recorded less than 20 disposals.

In regards to contested possessions Mundy has averaged 10.33 over the past 3 seasons (61 matches) and his average when he records 10 or more contested possessions is 101.31 from 36 matches in comparison to an average of 80.8 from 25 matches when his contested possessions are below 10.

I actually prefer him in his previous role pre Neale leaving so not sold yet. Might be sharing points with Walters until he inevitably gets injured ... then you've got the other young kids needing to gain experience at the same time ... age catches up will us all too ... still on the watch and wait list for me ...

 

[Connoisseur]

J Billings:
Wins: 103.8 from 15 (2/15 below 80, 8/15 below 100, 5/15 120+)
2018: 113.25 from 4 (0/4 below 95, 2/4 below 100, 2/4 120+)
2017: 100.36 from 11 (3/11 below 90, 6/11 below 100, 3/120+)

Draws: 85 from 1

Losses: 77.41 from 27 (18/27 below 80, 19/27 below 100, 0/27 120+)
2018: 72.19 from 16 (12/15 below 80, 13/15 below 100)
2017: 85 from 11 (6/11 below 80, 6/11 below 100)

Averaged 22.49 disposals over the past 2 seasons.
SC Avg when disposals equal/exceed 23: 104.45 from 20
SC Avg when disposals below 23: 71.43 from 23

 

[pizza safety]

J Billings:
Wins: 103.8 from 15 (2/15 below 80, 8/15 below 100, 5/15 120+)
2018: 113.25 from 4 (0/4 below 95, 2/4 below 100, 2/4 120+)
2017: 100.36 from 11 (3/11 below 90, 6/11 below 100, 3/120+)

Draws: 85 from 1

Losses: 77.41 from 27 (18/27 below 80, 19/27 below 100, 0/27 120+)
2018: 72.19 from 16 (12/15 below 80, 13/15 below 100)
2017: 85 from 11 (6/11 below 80, 6/11 below 100)

Averaged 22.49 disposals over the past 2 seasons.
SC Avg when disposals equal/exceed 23: 104.45 from 20
SC Avg when disposals below 23: 71.43 from 23

They'd only be favourites in 1 of their first 10 games and then in 3 of the following 4

 

[PC]

D Mundy:
2018:
Disposals: 22.45
SC Avg when disposals equal/exceed 23: 107.75 from 8 (low of 90 and a high of 130, 2/8 below 100, 1/8 120+)
SC Avg when disposals below 23: 89.21 from 14 (low of 53 and a high of 123, 9/14 below 100, 1/14 120+)
Contested Possessions: 10.45
SC Avg when contested possessions equal/exceed 11: 101.67 from 9 (low of 83 and a high of 123, 4/9 below 100, 1/9 120+)
SC Avg when contested possessions below 11: 92 from 13 (low of 53 and a high of 130, 7/13 below 100, 1/13 120+)
Tackles: 4.14
SC Avg when tackles equal/exceed 5: 104.29 from 7 (low of 83 and a high of 130, 3/7 below 100, 1/7 120+)
SC Avg when tackles below 5: 92.07 from 15 (low of 53 and a high of 123, 8/15 below 100, 1/15 120+)
Time on Ground%: 83.95%
SC Avg when time on ground equals/exceeds 84%: 91.33 from 12 (low of 53 and a high of 123, 7/12 below 100, 1/12 120+)
SC Avg when time on ground below 84%: 101.5 from 10 (low of 79 and a high of 130, 4/10 below 100, 1/10 120+)

Premium career stat averages (90+ avg):
Disposals:
2010: 22.6
2011: 23.75
2013: 24.05
2014: 24.5
2015: 26.86
2016: 23.67
2018: 22.45

Contested Possessions:
2010: 9.25
2011: 11.58
2013: 11.47
2014: 11.55
2015: 13.14
2016: 11.06
2018: 10.45

Tackles:
2010: 4.85
2011: 5.67
2013: 5.32
2014: 4.5
2015: 5.48
2016: 4.61
2018: 4.14

Time on Ground %:
2010: 76.8%
2011: 77.92%
2013: 77.26%
2014: 78.36%
2015: 80.52%
2016: 81.67%
2018: 83.95%

Decreasing disposals and contested averages and TOG increasing is likely attributed to spending more time in the forward line and a move back to a predominantly midfield role should be extremely beneficial for D Mundy.

If he starts the year primarily in the midfield and with their opening fixture featuring 6 of their first 10 matches or 6/11 pre bye at Optus he should be a great starting selection.

Domain Stadium: 104.25 from 63 (20/63 below 100, 18/63 120+)
2010: 92.83 from 12 (6/12 below 100, 2/12 120+)
2011: 103 from 6 (1/6 below 100, 2/6 120+)
2013: 107.91 from 11 (3/11 below 100, 4/11 120+)
2014: 103.25 from 12 (4/11 below 100, 3/11 120+)
2015: 115.92 from 12 (1/12 below 100, 5/12 120+)
2016: 101.9 from 10 (5/10 below 100, 2/10 120+)

Optus Stadium: 103.08 from 13 (5/13 below 100, 2/13 120+)

Interstate: 97.28 from 58 (32/58 below 100, 7/58 120+)
2010: 94.88 from 8
2011: 111.17 from 6
2013: 98 from 8
2014: 100.9 from 10
2015: 110.33 from 9
2016: 82.38 from 8
2018: 85.67 from 9

Domain Stadium Wins: 105.30 from 46 (12/46 below 100, 16/46 120+)
2010: 96.44 from 9
2011: 89 from 3
2013: 109.6 from 10
2014: 102.64 from 11
2015: 116.4 from 10
2016: 106.67 from 3

Optus Stadium Wins: 112.14 from 7 (1/7 below 100, 2/7 120+)

Domain Stadium Losses: 101.41 from 17 (8/17 below 100, 2/17 120+)
2010: 82 from 3
2011: 117 from 3
2013: 91 from 1
2014: 110 from 1
2015: 113.5 from 2
2016: 99.86 from 7

Optus Stadium Losses: 92.5 from 6 (4/6 below 100)

With stats like this at your fingers I fully expect you to win SC this year Connoisseur...if you don't then my conspiracy theory is you are CD (not 'from', 'are'....)

 

[Connoisseur]

With stats like this at your fingers I fully expect you to win SC this year Connoisseur...if you don't then my conspiracy theory is you are CD (not 'from', 'are'....)

Well you are going to be greatly disappointed with another mediocre finish from me. Hopefully I have a good run with injuries/suspension/DNP from my "premiums" this year as from memory approximately 18-21 rounds last year I had one of the aforementioned. M Crouch injured RD2, Kreuzer lasted 3 games mid season in my side before I got Grundy, held Billings all season, brought H Andrews in and he lasted 1/2 a quarter to name a couple.

Problem with all the researching is there are too many appealing options but not enough cash to get them all.

Good luck for SC 2019 and I'll have to keep a close eye on your progress.

 

[PC]

Well you are going to be greatly disappointed with another mediocre finish from me. Hopefully I have a good run with injuries/suspension/DNP from my "premiums" this year as from memory approximately 18-21 rounds last year I had one of the aforementioned. M Crouch injured RD2, Kreuzer lasted 3 games mid season in my side before I got Grundy, held Billings all season, brought H Andrews in and he lasted 1/2 a quarter to name a couple.

Problem with all the researching is there are too many appealing options but not enough cash to get them all.

Good luck for SC 2019 and I'll have to keep a close eye on your progress.

You too mate - I have faded in the final couple of rounds over the last few years, hopefully the injuries stay away for both of us!

 

[Connoisseur]

You too mate - I have faded in the final couple of rounds over the last few years, hopefully the injuries stay away for both of us!

I like to trade early and heavy and with the injuries compounding that it usually means I'm out of trades heading into the last month and enjoy a couple of donuts. Attempted to alleviate that concern last year by having depth on the majority of lines (J Billings F7, J Webster D7, L Shuey M9 as well as multiple DPP's) but was still to many injuries to contend with.

 

[Diabolical]

^ I think I have just worked it out - I am going to try something different this year and only pick players who will not be getting injured.

 

[lipsunited]

Well you are going to be greatly disappointed with another mediocre finish from me. Hopefully I have a good run with injuries/suspension/DNP from my "premiums" this year as from memory approximately 18-21 rounds last year I had one of the aforementioned. M Crouch injured RD2, Kreuzer lasted 3 games mid season in my side before I got Grundy, held Billings all season, brought H Andrews in and he lasted 1/2 a quarter to name a couple.

Problem with all the researching is there are too many appealing options but not enough cash to get them all.

Good luck for SC 2019 and I'll have to keep a close eye on your progress.

Given u held Billings last year (as did I) do u think u will be backing your judgment that u had last year for the outside mid role close to full time? When he plays that role he can rebound and send inside 50 with great accuracy. SC gold IF he gets played in that position.....

 

[quite ironic]

I wish I didn't pick Billings last year...
At least I would pick him this year with the forwards giving me so much headaches!

How about not picking Billings last year and still not wanting to pick him this year because I spent all of last year laughing at everyone in my leagues who had him and would cost them h2h’s.

 

[quite ironic]

What are people’s thoughts on Menagola and his ability to continue scoring 100+ like he did the last 6 weeks of 2018 (with ease).

Any info regarding his role in those games that may differ this year ?

 

[Diabolical]

Last year I held Billings all year!!

I’m not going near him this year ... even if he scores 2 x 110 in the first two rounds ... then I mig... no, I’m not going near him!

 

[Bomber18]

Last year I'm pretty sure I traded Billings to Walters and Walters did worse than Billings on the run home for me.

 

[pizza safety]

Last year I'm pretty sure I traded Billings to Walters and Walters did worse than Billings on the run home for me.

Wingard, Billings and Walters....something about the three of them that I can't put my finger on but makes them inconsistent. I've owned all 3 of them between 2017 and 2018, plenty of highs, and plenty of lows.

 

[quite ironic]

Wingard, Billings and Walters....something about the three of them that I can't put my finger on but makes them inconsistent. I've owned all 3 of them between 2017 and 2018, plenty of highs, and plenty of lows.

I owned Wingard since about round 12 last year and it was magnificent.

If healthy and he is playing in the midfield he is an automatic 100 scorer.

 

[Drew]

Just read those Mundy stats and I’m going to Devon Smith -> to Mundy. Seems like a no brainer. Have even had Mundy before and didn’t even consider him, don’t know why!

I’m guessing everyone thinks he’s up for more mid time with Neale gone now?

 

[Drew]

I owned Wingard since about round 12 last year and it was magnificent.

If healthy and he is playing in the midfield he is an automatic 100 scorer.

Is there too many unknowns now though with him moving to the Hawks?

 

[pizza safety]

I owned Wingard since about round 12 last year and it was magnificent.

If healthy and he is playing in the midfield he is an automatic 100 scorer.

Yeah he's shown the last two years when playing midfield that he will score pretty decently, still when he's played half-forward or in the pocket, where his x-factor once shined through, he's proved very frustrating. Could be a very good upgrade target once he gets going this year.

 

[quite ironic]

Is there too many unknowns now though with him moving to the Hawks?

He should play midfield with Mitchell gone but I’d wait and see.

Watch first 2-3 games and see what his role is. Can always jump on as soon as he moves into the midfield role (may be straight away) because it won’t change from there on in. He was unbelievably good in the middle last 10 weeks last year, snuck under the radar because he was at Port and not kicking flashy goals but I’d take 25 touches, 6 clearances and a goal a week over 15 touches and 3 goals with a highlight reel package.

Can watch and see what his role is but he is a must have if he is playing midfield. Averaged 103 playing midfield from rounds 12 onwards last year.

 

[quite ironic]

Yeah he's shown the last two years when playing midfield that he will score pretty decently, still when he's played half-forward or in the pocket, where his x-factor once shined through, he's proved very frustrating. Could be a very good upgrade target once he gets going this year.

Another thing to note is he rocked up to pre season well oberweight and was constantly niggled with injuries to begin last year.

As soon as he went into the midfield (when he was fit enough, potentially would’ve started here round 1 or earlier than round 12 anyway had he not been overweight or lacking fitness), he was a jet and averaged 103 for the last 11 games.