Position Forwards Discussion
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Don't think there's much doubt he can score to keeper levels, just whether he'll do it in the early rounds. I think he's pretty likely to be coddled to start the season (possibly low TOG and/or left up forward) and will build into a good scoring role (assuming he doesn't get injured again). Think that doesn't make him the worst pick, but also don't think he'll get too far away from non-starters. Most important point I think is don't trade him out early if you do start him. If he starts slow, ride him out.
I’m half considering Peter Wright at F4.
Yes I know he’s full forward in the worst side in the comp, but I think he could still kick 40-50 goals now Lynch is gone.
If he’s a bust, he can be downgraded to a rookie (and bank $100-$150K).
I think an 85 average is possible and I’m preferring him to Rankine/Lukosius/Rankine at the moment.
Would love someone to talk me out of the craziness.
Yes I know he’s full forward in the worst side in the comp, but I think he could still kick 40-50 goals now Lynch is gone.
If he’s a bust, he can be downgraded to a rookie (and bank $100-$150K).
I think an 85 average is possible and I’m preferring him to Rankine/Lukosius/Rankine at the moment.
Would love someone to talk me out of the craziness.
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Yep, combined with a dearth of forward rookies, seems a reasonable choice to go to F4 with premiums/sub-premos.
Dangerfield/Heeney look to be safer than any of Lloyd/Laird/Sicily.
Menegola has 3x years of 100. Mundy and Boak have both averaged over 100 multiple times in midfield roles.
Whitfield, Crisp, Hurn seems reasonable if you then want to look at getting in the 'big 3', but most teams wouldn't be able to afford that with 4 forwards, Gawndy and 4-6 midfield choices.
Dangerfield/Heeney look to be safer than any of Lloyd/Laird/Sicily.
Menegola has 3x years of 100. Mundy and Boak have both averaged over 100 multiple times in midfield roles.
Whitfield, Crisp, Hurn seems reasonable if you then want to look at getting in the 'big 3', but most teams wouldn't be able to afford that with 4 forwards, Gawndy and 4-6 midfield choices.
Tell me if I'm reading too much into this:
Isaac Heeney in 2018
With Buddy: 100/17
With Buddy, removing concussion affected game: 105/16
Without Buddy: 88/4
I can't see any clear pattern in his stats for the matches without Buddy that would indicate a different role, but logic suggests it's harder to play as an M/F without a big leading, marking forward to structure around.
A 17 point difference in average (removing the concussion game), albeit from a small sample size of 4 does suggest a pattern. He's up to 45% ownership - am I crazy to take a punt betting against the field on this one by not starting him?
Isaac Heeney in 2018
With Buddy: 100/17
With Buddy, removing concussion affected game: 105/16
Without Buddy: 88/4
I can't see any clear pattern in his stats for the matches without Buddy that would indicate a different role, but logic suggests it's harder to play as an M/F without a big leading, marking forward to structure around.
A 17 point difference in average (removing the concussion game), albeit from a small sample size of 4 does suggest a pattern. He's up to 45% ownership - am I crazy to take a punt betting against the field on this one by not starting him?
Been waiting for someone to comment about this , noted the same thing last season.
Without Buddy does Heeney become the focal point in the F50 ?
If Reid is fit and playing and/or Blakey does then that "free" up Heeney more ?
Don't have the stats to analysis.
Not sure how long Buddy is out for but you certainly wouldn't be happy if it was 3-4 weeks or so and started Heeney expecting 100's + and churning out high 80's.
Certainly food for thought.
Without Buddy does Heeney become the focal point in the F50 ?
If Reid is fit and playing and/or Blakey does then that "free" up Heeney more ?
Don't have the stats to analysis.
Not sure how long Buddy is out for but you certainly wouldn't be happy if it was 3-4 weeks or so and started Heeney expecting 100's + and churning out high 80's.
Certainly food for thought.
To be honest, it probably won't be noticed by most coaches. At 45% ownership most "serious" players will take be taking him - is there anyone on SCS that isn't at this point?
The advantage would be that if you didn't pick him AND he pushed out 80s and 90s you could get an early jump on just about everybody, with the caveat that you'd need to burn a trade to bring him in eventually.
I'm looking at forward mid pricers 350k-400k range who could put on 50k by R5/6 for a one trade swap to a fallen premo. That premo could be Heeney, could be someone else. Options huh
The advantage would be that if you didn't pick him AND he pushed out 80s and 90s you could get an early jump on just about everybody, with the caveat that you'd need to burn a trade to bring him in eventually.
I'm looking at forward mid pricers 350k-400k range who could put on 50k by R5/6 for a one trade swap to a fallen premo. That premo could be Heeney, could be someone else. Options huh
To be honest, it probably won't be noticed by most coaches. At 45% ownership most "serious" players will take be taking him - is there anyone on SCS that isn't at this point?
The advantage would be that if you didn't pick him AND he pushed out 80s and 90s you could get an early jump on just about everybody, with the caveat that you'd need to burn a trade to bring him in eventually.
I'm looking at forward mid pricers 350k-400k range who could put on 50k by R5/6 for a one trade swap to a fallen premo. That premo could be Heeney, could be someone else. Options huh
The advantage would be that if you didn't pick him AND he pushed out 80s and 90s you could get an early jump on just about everybody, with the caveat that you'd need to burn a trade to bring him in eventually.
I'm looking at forward mid pricers 350k-400k range who could put on 50k by R5/6 for a one trade swap to a fallen premo. That premo could be Heeney, could be someone else. Options huh
@jaca have you heard how long Buddy is out for ?
I have narrowed my preferred forwards down to 6 , which I know is not the right way to do things , hoping Setterfield is a viable F6 and can find 2 bench forwards that might actually string some consecutive games together.
I don't know to be honest, he'll miss all of JLT but "Should be fit soon". Last year he started with a 170 and quickly broke down...
My guess is they still play him round 1, but if they don't Sydney have a few more talls available this year than most of last (Reid, Menzel, McCartin, Blakey... none are Buddy, but...) so that eases some of the pressure to push Heeney in to fill a void.
My guess is they still play him round 1, but if they don't Sydney have a few more talls available this year than most of last (Reid, Menzel, McCartin, Blakey... none are Buddy, but...) so that eases some of the pressure to push Heeney in to fill a void.
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I might be a bit biased but Darling has been a lock for me all summer.
Have been to numerous training sessions this preseason, and he has looked a cut above all others, especially in match simulation work.
Up until that ankle injury last season, he was clearly the best forward in the game on form... 101 & 96 so far this pre-season, looks to benefiting from the one on one contests with the new 6-6-6 rules and I'm backing him in to start the season firing especially with JK easing into the season.
Today's paper reporting JK will take part in an intrclub on Friday and if he gets through that should play round 1.
Have been to numerous training sessions this preseason, and he has looked a cut above all others, especially in match simulation work.
Up until that ankle injury last season, he was clearly the best forward in the game on form... 101 & 96 so far this pre-season, looks to benefiting from the one on one contests with the new 6-6-6 rules and I'm backing him in to start the season firing especially with JK easing into the season.
Today's paper reporting JK will take part in an intrclub on Friday and if he gets through that should play round 1.